Originally posted by Stainlessgmr

Plain and simple people, incase you didn't notice when you 1rst visited the website, this is a World of Warcraft knock-off. From the look of the game, all the way down to the soundtrack, everything is a mock up of WoW. The only difference is, while WoW is subscription based, RoM is free to play. A new and extremely misleading term, created by marketing teams, to reel in customers.

Like all " free to play" games RoM doesn't cost a dime to download or play. However, just like every other "free to play" game out there, the publisher wants to make more money, then just the royalties they get paid for banner ads on they're site. So they create cash shops, intended to make players pay real money for items, any other subscription game, would allow you to get from some sort of ingame accomplishment. In a way, games like RoM, are making more money then subscription based games, because some people (who either have too much money, or don't know how to budget themselves) spend, 2-3x the ammount they would spend on a simple 1 month subscription.   I mean hell, WoW is still considered the #1MMORPG (based on total players/accounts).  It only costs around $16usd per month to play, after you spend around 30 for the game itself and the only items/gear you can get and/or need are obtainable 'ingame', for free by actually playing it. RoM is free, but if you want a permanent mount that costs money. Upgrade your gear, more money. Yes, even to respec your character, you will have to pay.

Basically it seems like some jackass marketing agent who played WoW, saw a visa commercial and said

"hmm..

epic loot, 15dollars.

changing the color of your gear, 10dollars.

creating a guild, 20 dollars...

owning a mount, 15 dollars.

Laughing my way to the bank as i collect millions from players who just paid me for items in a game, that more then likely, they will stop playing within a few years.... priceless... muhahahahaha"

The fact is, these games earn way more then they are worth.  Put it this way, there is a huge number of people out there who have spent so much money in this game already, that they could of bought a brand new console system with several games, or built a top of the line gaming rig, instead of buying a bunch of pixels to use in 1 game.  I infact. know a few people who have even spent over $200usd a month, to gain an advantage or help level they're character in a free to play game. I've told them, its ridiculous and if they want to throw money away, they can give it to me, or find a charity that will actually help people who need it more then the games publisher.

IMHO, Death to Free to play games that give cash players an extreme advantage over everyone else!!  cash items in a free to play game, should only be for aesthetic use, allowing players to customize they're characters/accounts.  And not give them a huge advantage over those that either, can't afford to pay, dont have the option to pay, or are casual gamers that don't want to pay.  Games like these are corrupting the industry (more so then it already is) and not only helping to bleed gamers dry, but teaching the younger generations that "to become successful you need to spend the more money".  Oh yea, and the worst part of these free to play games is, 90% of the time, the gamers end up paying the publisher/developer for ingame items, while the gamers are beta testing the game for free.  So not only have these games saved money, buy not hiring proffessional beta testers, but they make money off the beta testing.

 

There's nothing saying you have to buy CS items.  And if you really feel compelled to get diamonds, just vist the AH.  There's always someone selling diamonds for gold.  So gimmie a break with the "have to spend money to compete" crap.  If people want to spend their RL money, that's their choice, and if they decide to ever stop sending Frogster money, at least they can still play the game.  Can't really say the same about WoW now can you?

Originally posted by mackdawg19

Originally posted by Defect

I think that is incredibly expensive as well. The diamonds should be more like $1 = 100 Diamonds.

Are u serious? That would not come close to being right, especially with whats priced on the cash shop. The price is fine, how else you think they are supposed to make cash? Money doesn't grow on trees, ya know. And before you say it could be cheaper, why? It's most likely the number 1 thing people will be purchasing, therefore better for it to be highly priced. In turn it will increase Frogsters cashflow. And that could lead to more increased updates and bigger expansions.

To the OP: So if this is your reason not to play the game, then why are you trying to play a cash shop game. And one more thing, how do you know you can't get these items in-game? You don't, and no one else knows either. If mounts can drop off mobs, what else you think is on the loot table? Get over it! =)

Money does grow on trees. Just to clear this point. everything else I agree.

so i take it NO ONE HAS PLAYED THE GAME. (yes, caps needed to be used for that part)

If you want to respec your character, go do daily quests for a few days and save up for a respec stone.

if you want your gear to be plussed, go do daily quests for a few days and save up for your choice of stuff.

Yea, you have to grind, but in the end, your spending NO MONEY for what everyone is claiming is "uber broke"

Phirius Coin shop people, they don't have perma mounts or house stuff, but it allows you to upgrade and use some of the cash shop stuff. in a couple more days, i can buy stones to make my weapon a +6 and i won't have to spend a dime

I looked at their pricing on diamonds today.   My freinds and I have a consisent full group of 6 players that play together all the time..  We can buy 2000 diamonds for $101..or $16.83 per person and each person gets 332 diamonds with 8 left to /random for.   This breaks down to .05 per diamond....A NICKLE per diamond is not that much when I compare it to paying $14.99 per month for p2p game.

6 players with a 1 year sub fees for a p2p game would buy about 21,000 diamonds on this game or enough to respec our characters 105.5 times

this thread is lose and oh ye its a f2p so OP loses to

Originally posted by binman624

I looked at their pricing on diamonds today.   My freinds and I have a consisent full group of 6 players that play together all the time..  We can buy 2000 diamonds for $101..or $16.83 per person and each person gets 332 diamonds with 8 left to /random for.   This breaks down to .05 per diamond....A NICKLE per diamond is not that much when I compare it to paying $14.99 per month for p2p game.

6 players with a 1 year sub fees for a p2p game would buy about 21,000 diamonds on this game or enough to respec our characters 105.5 times

I like to have multiple characters in MMOs. I also like to max out inventory and bank space on each character, especially since I often spend a lot of time on crafting. In this game, the cheapest option for renting a bank or inventory tab, is 80 diamonds for 6 months. And you have 8 tabs (4 inv. + 4 bank) per character.

Per character, maxed out: 80 diamonds * 8 tabs = 640 diamonds = $32 = $5.33 per month

I have 4 characters in this game, maxing them all out would cost $21.33 per month.

(based on your price: $0.05 per diamond)

This is storage only. I haven't talked at all about mounts and other "must-haves".

I don't mind paying for a game that's actually worth paying for, but this could easily cost a huge amount of money. And knowing that keeps me completely away from the cash shop. I'll buy a few diamonds in-game for gold, but spending real money on this game is just silly, compared to P2P games and what you get for a regular monthly subscription.

Btw, bad maths in your example: 2000 / 6 = 333 with 2 diamonds left. Not 332 with 8.

Like every F2P I tried, making honest alts is very expensive. At the same time creating endless accounts as mules, bots or for free giveaways is unlimited and free to powerlevel. As if they wanted you to cheat them.

Also as every F2P it ends up more expensive on average compared to P2P. They need to make more to make up for the instable income. Or in other words, you pay extra tax for the priviledge to decide when and how much you want to pay.

No big issue with that until they start to make parts of game crap to sell more stuff. When it comes to decide between better game vs more money P2P goes one way and F2P the other. Well, most do.

In the end, EvE online is probably the best model - there is limited option to play for free with subscription cards being tradeable in game and you can branch your main into alternate paths. It is way to special in all other aspects though. F2P really needs to get out of scamming mindset if they want to compete with P2P. RoM does not try at all and is run of the mill F2P scam scheme as far as cash shop goes.

Btw: Do not come to F2P with "max" mindset. The ceiling is high to give you the freedom to pay as much as you wish (and in the end too much for what you are getting).