Originally posted by vxcriss

About WoW. WoW is the best fantasy MMO currently in existence. It does miss a lot of features, and it does have a lot of problems which can be pretty frustrating at times, but it is just the best thing out there, and until something better comes along, it will remain the best. During the years I've played a lot of MMOs and taken into consideration every aspect of a MMO, they all fell short from WoW. Yes WoW can get a repetitive but so does every other MMO. Life itself is repetitive, and I'm pretty sure there will never ever be a game that doesn't feel repetitive at a certain point. If a game that is not repetitive would ever be created, then we would all just play that for ever and ever and all other game developers will stop making games because nobody would ever get bored of the non-repetitive one. Well you get my point. Again, to underline what I'm trying to say, WoW is not by far a perfect game, but it is, overally, the best fantasy MMO out there at this time, even though it's quite old. And the huge amount of users that WoW has prooves that point, not to mention that even though it's an old game, with a massive bank of users, it STILL gets many new subscribers every month, enough to maintain itself on a positive trend, and that says a lot about the value of the game.

WoW is the #1 MMORPG in the same way McDonald's is the #1 Restaurant.  Just because it appeals to the masses doesn't make it a quality product.  If I had to pick one word to describe WoW, it would be "silly".  Silly Gnome's with pigtails, silly emotes (Michael Jackson and John Travolta dancing indeed), silly helicopters that sputter and stall, silly motorcycles (in a fantasy MMO?! gimmie a break), silly disproportionate buildings making them look cartoonish, silly jokes (did you hear the one about the Brotherhood of the Bracelet?), silly poo collecting quests, and so on, and so on.

How any self-respecting gamer can play WoW and take it seriously I have no idea.

Just a casual comment, to all those that mentioned it runs out of quest or leveling too slowly. Go out and play any other F2P online MMORPG game and u can reach end lvl in the amount of time u use in this game. Name me anyone other than maybe Perfect World. Majority of the F2P games out there is just about grinding for days just to get that 1 lvl. Even me playing casual hours on weekends only i`m already at max lvl after 2~3 months. I dun even spent a single cent on this game yet and i have up-to-par gears, u just need to play smart. Buy and Sell at good opportunity. Understand how good gears are being made. If u want to be a GOD like soloing an instance meant for a full party then u burn your money to buy diamonds to get the catalyst to become GOD. Because diamond does not grant u direct access to GOD mode, u still have to run instance and use the things u bought from diamonds to make GOD items.  

The point of playing a game is to have fun.

RoM becomes to repeative at high lvs. Bsically they need more objetives etc. then just grinding.

Originally posted by lukyjay

"lukjay you played for 3 weeks? What level did you get. Did you even try the endgame?"
 LOL, people like you are ignorant. You dont understand, this is a GAME. Its supposed to be fun! If you have to play a game for hours, maybe days or even weeks just for it to become "fun", then its a grind whore. Not a game at all, is it? This game sucks! Those who enjoy it are easily amused or have very little RPG experience.

According to you, Lukyjay:

RoM is a terrible game

WoW is a terrible game

no-one who plays WAR is any good at it (except, presumably, you)

and this poor poster is 'ignorant'.

It must be wonderful to be such a talented genius!

Originally posted by Sixpax

Originally posted by vxcriss

About WoW. WoW is the best fantasy MMO currently in existence. It does miss a lot of features, and it does have a lot of problems which can be pretty frustrating at times, but it is just the best thing out there, and until something better comes along, it will remain the best. During the years I've played a lot of MMOs and taken into consideration every aspect of a MMO, they all fell short from WoW. Yes WoW can get a repetitive but so does every other MMO. Life itself is repetitive, and I'm pretty sure there will never ever be a game that doesn't feel repetitive at a certain point. If a game that is not repetitive would ever be created, then we would all just play that for ever and ever and all other game developers will stop making games because nobody would ever get bored of the non-repetitive one. Well you get my point. Again, to underline what I'm trying to say, WoW is not by far a perfect game, but it is, overally, the best fantasy MMO out there at this time, even though it's quite old. And the huge amount of users that WoW has prooves that point, not to mention that even though it's an old game, with a massive bank of users, it STILL gets many new subscribers every month, enough to maintain itself on a positive trend, and that says a lot about the value of the game.

WoW is the #1 MMORPG in the same way McDonald's is the #1 Restaurant.  Just because it appeals to the masses doesn't make it a quality product.  If I had to pick one word to describe WoW, it would be "silly".  Silly Gnome's with pigtails, silly emotes (Michael Jackson and John Travolta dancing indeed), silly helicopters that sputter and stall, silly motorcycles (in a fantasy MMO?! gimmie a break), silly disproportionate buildings making them look cartoonish, silly jokes (did you hear the one about the Brotherhood of the Bracelet?), silly poo collecting quests, and so on, and so on.

How any self-respecting gamer can play WoW and take it seriously I have no idea.

Yet, oddly, millions do...

Originally posted by Sixpax

Originally posted by vxcriss

About WoW. WoW is the best fantasy MMO currently in existence. It does miss a lot of features, and it does have a lot of problems which can be pretty frustrating at times, but it is just the best thing out there, and until something better comes along, it will remain the best. During the years I've played a lot of MMOs and taken into consideration every aspect of a MMO, they all fell short from WoW. Yes WoW can get a repetitive but so does every other MMO. Life itself is repetitive, and I'm pretty sure there will never ever be a game that doesn't feel repetitive at a certain point. If a game that is not repetitive would ever be created, then we would all just play that for ever and ever and all other game developers will stop making games because nobody would ever get bored of the non-repetitive one. Well you get my point. Again, to underline what I'm trying to say, WoW is not by far a perfect game, but it is, overally, the best fantasy MMO out there at this time, even though it's quite old. And the huge amount of users that WoW has prooves that point, not to mention that even though it's an old game, with a massive bank of users, it STILL gets many new subscribers every month, enough to maintain itself on a positive trend, and that says a lot about the value of the game.

WoW is the #1 MMORPG in the same way McDonald's is the #1 Restaurant.  Just because it appeals to the masses doesn't make it a quality product.  If I had to pick one word to describe WoW, it would be "silly".  Silly Gnome's with pigtails, silly emotes (Michael Jackson and John Travolta dancing indeed), silly helicopters that sputter and stall, silly motorcycles (in a fantasy MMO?! gimmie a break), silly disproportionate buildings making them look cartoonish, silly jokes (did you hear the one about the Brotherhood of the Bracelet?), silly poo collecting quests, and so on, and so on.

How any self-respecting gamer can play WoW and take it seriously I have no idea.

Rather elitist of you is it not? Did you ever consider that maybe people think WoW and McD's ARE offering the best quality compared to their competition? So this is sort of a "you're right and the world is wrong" type of thing. One person's "silly" is another person's "fun". I will concede that it is obvious that you have no idea.

A lot of people think ROM sucks and WoW is good. That's okay, they are entitled to an opinion just as you are. But the facts are that a LOT more people agree with him than agree with you.

Originally posted by lukyjay

I know, i know. To many people are comparing MMORPGs to World of Warcraft and saying they are all a ripoff from WoW. But hear me out!

 

I have played WoW for no more than 3 months, and ive quit because i think it sucks. I have played MANY mmorpgs in my time, and none of them have been this try-hard-WoW as Runes of Magic.

 

This game is fail in just about everything! Seriously, its not worth the 3.5gb download, and is definetly not worth the excessive patching.

 

Dont waste your time.

first the control,the look might makes you think of wow but i can say this is not it ,its more like gw meet ffxi 

and some see wow in their soup lol.when did you ever see duel class in a toon in wow this alone should give you a hint

this game took the best of the best game out there and put it in 

frogster is making lot of change for september look  and sound being upgraded book 2 released not long after 

but this is probably not what your talking about yes this game is f2p meaning microtransaction 

lol what can i say ,.some believe f2p game suck be it good or bad,you dont like micro-transaction i bet i could be wrong tho

one thing is sure aion isnt better and you ll pay big buck to pay that !but then who cares at least you dont have micro-transaction!

Originally posted by Kartuhn

The first 15 levels (about 10 hours play time to get both classes there) felt fresh and casual. The game went smoothly and did'nt give me the impression that it was a grindfest. That changed in a huge way however. Suddenly all there is to do are daily quests of grinding mobs or bosses that require full teams to defeat. The game completely went stagnant on me and my sense of fun went right down the toilet. Just another grinder with a sour community and nothing offered to make it a worthwhile endeavor.

Characters deleted. Uninstalled. Zip files dumped. Back to looking for a decent game.

lol your wrong !there are 2 starting zone once you did the first you go take your second prof then go to the other area via a skill that person give you to either go first or second starting area then at second start area you horse to the big city thats where lvl 1 start

Originally posted by Cynthe

Originally posted by Taram

I find it really scary that people in this thread are saying it takes 12 months to realize wow sucks... it took me about 2 weeks to decide WoW was not for me.

 

There is a MASSIVE difference between stating a game sucks and stating that a game is not for me.

You are intelligent and realize that it's not because something is not for you does not mean it's a crappy game.

The OP needs to learn this, and there's no way I'd ever believe he has played many MMOs. Otherwise he'd see the finer points of this objectively.

Yes it's pretty much an Asian WoW, except it's made more in the spirit of fun while WoW is catered to PWN Your Faces people, or those unfortunate who don't know better yet. ;P

Also I have a hard believing anyone trashing this game has any experience with F2P....

i agres with you ,this is one of the better title in f2p 

I would not say RoM sucks, not really.

I did play RoM the whole beta. The game is decent, in terms of graphics and features.

Sure, from all F2P/MMO I played, RoM is clearly a WoW clone. It has nothing innovative like the unique pet system in Rappelz or the turn-based combat system in Atlantica Online. The dual class system? Well, at the time of the release, that was simply a fail. It added little to nothing in terms of character customization, but greatly increased the time of the leveling process and artificially (wrongly) added some class choices.

However there is something sucking badly, and that is the RoM game designers : a week before the release, they decided to completely change the whole game mechanisms. The day of the patch, nobody were recognizing the characters people spent months to create. The changes were so huge that a lot of players simply quit the game right after.

Also, the high level game content was pretty lacking, at least at the time of the release. I reached max level (50/50) but there was little to do. The only thing the dev team found to counter that was to drastically increase the mob damage in the few instances available, thinking that would keep the HL players busy. The result was simply all the HL players boycotting those instances as it was not possible to succeed anymore (any trash mobs there was one-shotting any class...).

Those behaviours are clearly not acceptable. Being so disrespectful to their customers (the gamers) really sucks. The fact they did those big changes right before the release - and not at the alpha/closed beta stages of the game - made me think they could do it again anytime after the release.

Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe they learnt from all those very big mistakes...

Originally posted by Nilwarp

...snip...

Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe they learnt from all those very big mistakes...

Not yet.  Maybe by the next Frogster project, but I even doubt that.

Chapter 2 was released a couple weeks ago, will all the "usual' missing content and plethora of bugs.

OP...Regardless of what you think, people are going to disagree on whether a game is good or not. When I first started playing WoW, I thought it stunk. But, I gave it some time (more than 3 months) and I really started enjoying it.

And...Warhammer was the buggiest game that I have ever played even though it has some innovative aspects to it. Pet pathing ruined the best class in the game and I don't know if it is fixed yet. Like AoC, it could have been good if it hadn't been for a premature launch.

But, to comment on the original title, ROM does have it's hangups, but it is really good for a free game.

I played EQ from beta on for about 7 years. I even gave WoW a shot (I gave up on pay to play) This is one of many F2P MMO's I've played and I like it 38 Warden/Druid. If i want to quest for levels I quest ... If I want to grind I grind. The duel class system is also nice ... If i want to go beat the crap out of all the mobs I go warden or if I want to sit back and watch the show I go druid, I don't have to have 3 accounts to be able to play the class I want when I want I just swap and go.

It depends on your budget and expectations.

If you can only afford $15/month, then play WoW.  If you can afford $100/month, then play RoM and become a heavy CS user.

If you expect 24/7 customer support, then play WoW.  If you can get by with virtually no customer support, including bug fixes, then play RoM.

Carebears play WoW.  Real gamers play RoM.

If you only have $15/month play FFXI, or try EQII   ... forget WOW... stretched textures and toontown graphics.

...and  ROM is a lousy , uninteresting poorly balanced piece of crap. 

See?  I didn't use the word "Sucks" at all.

I have just started playing and I enjoy it. I like the house feature, the horse hire and the crafting.   Maybe it will get dull at end game, but I'll find that out.   I like the customability of the toons (though I've seen better toons).  I also like the dual class system.  This game wants to try something different.

Most MMOs are not much different from Muds of years ago.   Oh and if anyone doubts my experience, I have been playing MMOs for about 4 years (WOW, WAR, EVE, tons of free ones) and this one I have enjoyed more than most of the others and all of the free ones (though Perfect World was also as good) and I have paper rpg'd for 20 years.

the thing about is that its exact oppisite it sucks in the beggining and owns at the end thats way people dont like it they try get annoyed at the beggining and declare the game sucks but if you get max it owns

there hands down isn't any other f2p mmo out there that is of this quality.

This game doesn't suck. Nor does it go above and beyond any other F2Ps. Anyone who says this game isn't like WoW needs to get their eyes examined. Not only in looks, but in play style as well. The game is kind of like a "virtual splenda" it's a good substitute if you're willing to tolerate it.

The nature and history make WOW the game that all games will be measured against, love wow, hate wow, and strange enough all mmorpg's have got this relationship, you either love it or hate it, there seems to be no half measures in the world online role playing gaming. What I find interesting that people will always weight and measure a game against another game,and seem quickly to forget the unique experiences that games offer.

What I like about ROM:

It is free ( yes you can argue it is not truly free) but to me it makes a difference, I am not  a hardcore gamer, I enjoy games but I do not have time to play a hour everyday, thus with no subscription model I do not feel like I am obliged to play everyday andcan pop in and out whenever I feel like it. So in aspects of casual gaming rom hit the spot for me

The interface, I really like it, because it is wowish therefore familiar, rom has taken the best of wow and the add-ons and given it all in a handy package. I have not played wow in a about 2 years ( my account has been hijacked since the change over to whatever they have now, after basically being told by Blizzard to go get stuffed because I was not prepared to make an international call, i have given wow the big finger) any case I do not if wow includes a lot of the addon that you had to download seperately.

The class system, I like the more traditional classes that reminds me of AD&D (pen & paper based to those that are younger than 20)

The community, must say I have always experienced f2p communities more friendly / more forgiving than p2p communities, it is probably because the p2p attract the more hardcore crowd. I have been playing ROM only for 2 weeks and already my friends list exceed my LOTRO friends list. It appears that it is never difficult to get a quick group together to do something.

What not to like:

The grinding, but then again it is part and parcel of the whole mmorpg thing, I think the only mmorpg that I played that does not have so much grinding would be LOTRO, but there the gridning was cleverly hidden in a good story line

The Lore, this is definetely where ROM is very lightweight, I have been actively playing for about 2 days ( that would mean about 2 weeks in normal time), and still I havenot discovered the greater plot, why am I here, whatis this all about, WOW wasleightweight as well, but at least it had the lore of  Warcraft to back it, Guildwars has got excellent in depth lore, and obviously LOTRO has got the greatest fantasy work ever written to supply the lore and it was extremely well integrated in the whole experience, never once in LOTRO do you have any doubt what itis about.

Lag, man I seem to pickup a huge amount of lag, maybe it is just me, maybe it is just my  poor connection, but it is frustrating.

I can probably find some other stuff to "rave" or "suck" about. Maybe ROM should be evaluated for what it is, a nice little casual romp in a fantasy world.