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  Sevenwind

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Joined: 6/07/04
Posts: 2105

12/26/08 9:00:10 PM#41

I have a question. How bad is the ganking on the PvP servers?

Curiousity got the better of me and I made a character on the Cimmeria server, a PoM. I did alright until I got to Underhalls. I did not try white sands but general chat was full of people saying it was bad there. Even the people that do it were openly telling people if you come here and we see you your going down.

No one was in Underhalls except me and I got ganked in there three times fighting mobs. So, I gave up and went back to my little carebare server Wiccana haha. I don't have anything against pvp, I just seriously suck at it.

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  Redruum

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12/27/08 12:50:32 AM#42
Originally posted by Sevenwind

I have a question. How bad is the ganking on the PvP servers?

Curiousity got the better of me and I made a character on the Cimmeria server, a PoM. I did alright until I got to Underhalls. I did not try white sands but general chat was full of people saying it was bad there. Even the people that do it were openly telling people if you come here and we see you your going down.

No one was in Underhalls except me and I got ganked in there three times fighting mobs. So, I gave up and went back to my little carebare server Wiccana haha. I don't have anything against pvp, I just seriously suck at it.

 

It does happen on the PVP servers.  In my personal opinion Funcom should have just not made PVP XP available anywhere on Tortage to let people get use to the game, but then again PVP is part of the game.  I cannot speak for the Tyranny server, but I know on the Cimmeria server if you let people know in Global there is usually more then enough people that have alt's stationed on Tortage just for the fact of kiling those gankers that sit in Tortage until they are like level 24-25.  I know my guild has some members that have alt's stationed there to help out our guild mates or any friends that need it so don't hesitate to give me a call if need be.  But, yes there are people that stay there till level 24-25ish and kill everyone they see without the care of becoming a murderer.  You can get to about level 15ish or so by doing all th quests without even having to venture into the Underhalls or White Sands.  Usually if you are not going to stick around Tortage till 25 to be a murderer it is probably best to get out as fast as you can. :)

  monoth

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12/27/08 12:51:10 AM#43
Originally posted by Sevenwind

I have a question. How bad is the ganking on the PvP servers?

Curiousity got the better of me and I made a character on the Cimmeria server, a PoM. I did alright until I got to Underhalls. I did not try white sands but general chat was full of people saying it was bad there. Even the people that do it were openly telling people if you come here and we see you your going down.

No one was in Underhalls except me and I got ganked in there three times fighting mobs. So, I gave up and went back to my little carebare server Wiccana haha. I don't have anything against pvp, I just seriously suck at it.

 

This is why they had to introduce the new PvP ruleset, because people were hiding by the quest givers and ganking newbs when they tried to get quests and then run to the rez pad and gank them again... 

Only way to play on a PvP server is with friends who play a lot.   Usally gankers are only 1 or 2 players so if you have a group of 6 they will usaly stay away like the cowards they are.

Also don't buy into this crap about how they had to go through it as a right of passage so thats why there doing it to you.  When they played the game the population was big enough that there were several instances of the same zone going, so if you got ganked you could just switched to another instance of that zone to finish your quest. 

They had it easy because now a days there is only ONE instance so your screwed.

  xpiher

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12/27/08 1:10:41 AM#44


Originally posted by monoth

Originally posted by Sevenwind

I have a question. How bad is the ganking on the PvP servers?
Curiousity got the better of me and I made a character on the Cimmeria server, a PoM. I did alright until I got to Underhalls. I did not try white sands but general chat was full of people saying it was bad there. Even the people that do it were openly telling people if you come here and we see you your going down.
No one was in Underhalls except me and I got ganked in there three times fighting mobs. So, I gave up and went back to my little carebare server Wiccana haha. I don't have anything against pvp, I just seriously suck at it.



 
This is why they had to introduce the new PvP ruleset, because people were hiding by the quest givers and ganking newbs when they tried to get quests and then run to the rez pad and gank them again... 
Only way to play on a PvP server is with friends who play a lot.   Usally gankers are only 1 or 2 players so if you have a group of 6 they will usaly stay away like the cowards they are.
Also don't buy into this crap about how they had to go through it as a right of passage so thats why there doing it to you.  When they played the game the population was big enough that there were several instances of the same zone going, so if you got ganked you could just switched to another instance of that zone to finish your quest. 
They had it easy because now a days there is only ONE instance so your screwed.


 
This guy is wrong, at least for Tyranny I can't speak for other servers. While there were other zones available for questing, non of these zones were safe and the gankers would follow you everywhere. With out the consequence system no one was safe. There was a guild, menance, who on Sundays would from up 5-10 full raids (120-240 people!) that would go from zone to zone and just completly clear it out. If you were a low level you knew to not bother signing in on sundays to play.
 
Yes ganking is a part of the game, but theres a difference between ganking and grifing. Grifing is activly preventing peopel from leveling. What happens for the most part on Tyranny is that there'll be 4-5 people in Tortage that are actively looking to sneak up on you to kill you for PvP exp, after they've killed you a few times you can generally get away from them to finish a quest, and if not there are anti ganking guilds around that will help out. Its not people actively preventing you from leveling anymore, but just people wanting to get PvP levels as quick as possible. Once you leave tortage, most players don't bother doing it much anymore because its harder (open spaces) and the murder system makes doing it not worth it.
 
But there is a draw back to the murder system as well. Prior to its induction, when group fought over grind spots both would eventually turn in to 80s v 80s dukeing it out and it was hell of fun, to my knowledge, this only happens in kesh now, while most grind spots (due to populations, soloing be easy, and the content gaps being filled) are contested. I miss that.

Oh remember, its only a gank if the teams are uneven.


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Darkfall - Xpiher Duminous (NA) retired
AoC - Xpiher (Tyranny) retired

  monoth

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12/27/08 1:18:06 AM#45

When AOC first came out there were over 20 instances of White Sands Island and the Underhalls, so you could escape ganking for the most part.   I'm guessing you started AOC a month or two after the game released if there were only a few instances.

My point being that people who played on pvp servers at the very beginning were not ganked as often, but if you came into the game now (especially now that there is only one instance of each zone) your going to be ganked non stopped.   So the people who played at the beginning had it easy compared to new players trying to start now.

Anyways its a moot point if your part of a big guild...

Small guilds or solo players never have a chance on PvP servers, not unless you have a fetish for being ganked :)

 

  xpiher

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12/27/08 1:36:00 AM#46
Originally posted by monoth

When AOC first came out there were over 20 instances of White Sands Island and the Underhalls, so you could escape ganking for the most part.   I'm guessing you started AOC a month or two after the game released if there were only a few instances.

My point being that people who played on pvp servers at the very beginning were not ganked as often, but if you came into the game now (especially now that there is only one instance of each zone) your going to be ganked non stopped.   So the people who played at the beginning had it easy compared to new players trying to start now.

Anyways its a moot point if your part of a big guild...

Small guilds or solo players never have a chance on PvP servers, not unless you have a fetish for being ganked :)

 

 

Its not as bad as you are making it out to be. Its not people actively grifing anymore, its just people wanting PvP exp. Tortage isn't that bad, I have a lowbie and have only been prevented from completing 1 quest.


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  WargPest

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Joined: 9/29/08
Posts: 184

12/27/08 8:06:15 AM#47

Redruum, nice thread you have going here. Even though I am a bigtime AoC player I have some questions? How are the drops from the Black Ring Citadel? I heard there are few Guilds that can handle these bosses, whats your comments on that? Last Question, do you ever meet Toth Amon himself in the Black Ring Citadel? Would love to meet this all time BAD of BAD character from all R E Howard literature.

  monoth

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Joined: 9/19/06
Posts: 548

12/27/08 6:43:25 PM#48
Originally posted by xpiher
Originally posted by monoth

When AOC first came out there were over 20 instances of White Sands Island and the Underhalls, so you could escape ganking for the most part.   I'm guessing you started AOC a month or two after the game released if there were only a few instances.

My point being that people who played on pvp servers at the very beginning were not ganked as often, but if you came into the game now (especially now that there is only one instance of each zone) your going to be ganked non stopped.   So the people who played at the beginning had it easy compared to new players trying to start now.

Anyways its a moot point if your part of a big guild...

Small guilds or solo players never have a chance on PvP servers, not unless you have a fetish for being ganked :)

 

 

Its not as bad as you are making it out to be. Its not people actively grifing anymore, its just people wanting PvP exp. Tortage isn't that bad, I have a lowbie and have only been prevented from completing 1 quest.

 

I guess that would depend on which server your playing on... I've started a new toon with a couple of friends on Cimerria server and ganking is still very much alive, especially since you only have one instance of both White Sands Island and Underhalls....  

But if your on a server that is empty population wise, then ya, you probably don't have a ganking problem as there are very few players.  Gankers want to be on the populated servers since griefing other players is there enjoyment in the game.   Their the same type of people who play Counter Strike with wall hacks and other cheats...  Anything to make the other persons experience miserable

 

 

 

  Redruum

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Joined: 6/20/05
Posts: 221

 
12/28/08 12:17:59 AM#49
Originally posted by WargPest

Redruum, nice thread you have going here. Even though I am a bigtime AoC player I have some questions? How are the drops from the Black Ring Citadel? I heard there are few Guilds that can handle these bosses, whats your comments on that? Last Question, do you ever meet Toth Amon himself in the Black Ring Citadel? Would love to meet this all time BAD of BAD character from all R E Howard literature.


 

1. How are the drops from the Black Ring Citadel and do you ever meet Toth Amon himself in the Black Ring Citadel?

The drops in BRC are the best PVE drops that you can get at the moment in game and look pretty damn cool.  Alot of people wear them for PVP sometimes as well if they do not have alot of PVP gear because the basics like health, stamina, etc. carry over into PVP.  Currently Black Ring Citadel is the T2 for PVE raiding.  Funcom likes to reference to it as T3 though so you may see them mention that.  Basically players in game consider Epic Khesh Tier 0 with Vistrix, Yak, and Kylikki as Tier 1 and then Black Ring Citadel Wing 1, Wing 2, and Wing 3 Tier 2.  What is suppose to happen is that after you kill the last boss in Wing 1 you get a gem and when you kill the last boss in Wing 2 Chatha, who is currently not killable, you recieve a second gem that opens up the middle of Black Ring which is considered Wing 3.  Currently since Chatha is not killable no one can access Wing 3 yet.  The two bosses in Wing 3 are Athyr Bast and Leviathus.  Once you kill all of those, which isn't possible yet, then you get into what we refer to as Tier 3 and yes, that would be Toth-Amon.

2. I heard there are few Guilds that can handle these bosses, whats your comments on that?

In the official forums on most of the server forum area's each server will have it's own PVE server progression thread.  This is the one for Cimmeria http://forums-us.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?t=170607 .  I can't speak for all servers, but currently us Acolytes and Circle of Iron are the only two guilds with kills within Black Ring Citadel on Cimmeria. It seems that even the more pvp focused guilds are taking their stab at PVE as well.  I created my guild to give people the chance to experience everything the game has to offer and not just focus on one part of the game, I feel when people just focus on one part of the game that they are missing out on so much more the MMO has to offer.  I am not here to toot my own horn, but we do have every PVE boss on farm status at the moment up to Chatha who currently cannot be killed.  I made this past holiday week an off week for my guild to get outside and do other things then just game.  Since we knew that we were going to have this whole week off of guild event's, last saturday we decided to try and take out every PVE boss that exists in the game that is killable from T1 through T2.  We accomplished it in 7 hours and 45 minutes.  I can say we will probably never try to accomplish that again, but it was definately fun knowing that we could do it.

 

  monoth

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12/28/08 12:53:48 AM#50

Ok I gotta argue the cool part about the T2 PvE Gear...  Pretty much all the gear looks great on female players, but on male players, well lets just say they look like something you would see at a gay pride parade in San Francisco.   Only a few Gear sets look cool on male players, the rest look really lame.

Judging by the looks of the armor, It's a safe assumption that most of the guys who work in the art department at Funcom are Gay.

 

 

  Redruum

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12/28/08 11:37:41 AM#51
Originally posted by monoth

Ok I gotta argue the cool part about the T2 PvE Gear...  Pretty much all the gear looks great on female players, but on male players, well lets just say they look like something you would see at a gay pride parade in San Francisco.   Only a few Gear sets look cool on male players, the rest look really lame.

Judging by the looks of the armor, It's a safe assumption that most of the guys who work in the art department at Funcom are Gay.

 

 

 

Everyone is of course entitled to their opinion, but I think it is safe to agree that the armor is definately different then other armor found within Hyboria.

  zspawn

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12/28/08 12:12:37 PM#52

 I agree I find them great, I'm a fan of more realistic looking armor ( = something that would someone would wear) rather than electro-charged blue shoulders that look more like a Halloween costume :P

  BearShammy

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12/29/08 12:58:00 AM#53
Originally posted by zspawn

 I agree I find them great, I'm a fan of more realistic looking armor ( = something that would someone would wear) rather than electro-charged blue shoulders that look more like a Halloween costume :P


 

I love itemization in AoC. OP, which armor sets do you find the best for both PvP and PvE? Also how are the bonuses on PvP armor folded into PvE play? 

  Redruum

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12/29/08 12:19:25 PM#54
Originally posted by BearShammy
Originally posted by zspawn

 I agree I find them great, I'm a fan of more realistic looking armor ( = something that would someone would wear) rather than electro-charged blue shoulders that look more like a Halloween costume :P


 

I love itemization in AoC. OP, which armor sets do you find the best for both PvP and PvE? Also how are the bonuses on PvP armor folded into PvE play? 

 

I will have to get some solid facts and links on this, but from my understanding PVP armor does nothing for PVE protection.  If you are going to PVP and you have PVP gear I would always wear that and fill in the slots you don't have with some good PVE gear that boosts health, stam, mana, etc.  On the flip side when we PVE raid we make sure everyone takes off their PVP gear.

  zspawn

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12/29/08 6:04:16 PM#55

 Question:

 

I struggled my way to lvl 17 on Fury PvP server as a Conqueror. However past 2 days I didn't manage to do much cause of the constant ganking.

Whenever I enter an area where I can be attacked, I instantly am and killed by either rangers or assassins and the occasional barbarian.

 

I get it it's a world PvP server but isn't this a bit over the line ? 

I've been level 17 for the past 2 days total hours played is around 7 right now and it all ends up in frustration + alt-f4.

 

I am no carebear but I was wondering if it's always like that :P

  monoth

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12/29/08 11:57:12 PM#56
Originally posted by zspawn

 I agree I find them great, I'm a fan of more realistic looking armor ( = something that would someone would wear) rather than electro-charged blue shoulders that look more like a Halloween costume :P

 

Ya we all know a Male Guardian would wear a mini skirt and a crop top chest plate...  Totally realistic..  Hell even the semi macho crafted armor comes with a pink sash on it ....   Funcom needs to hire some artists with testastorne

 

 

 

  User Deleted
12/30/08 1:40:58 AM#57

so I have not heard much on this game from anyone really. But from what i read its a love hate thing. Was this an epic fail?

  Redruum

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12/30/08 1:53:32 AM#58
Originally posted by zspawn

 Question:

 

I struggled my way to lvl 17 on Fury PvP server as a Conqueror. However past 2 days I didn't manage to do much cause of the constant ganking.

Whenever I enter an area where I can be attacked, I instantly am and killed by either rangers or assassins and the occasional barbarian.

 

I get it it's a world PvP server but isn't this a bit over the line ? 

I've been level 17 for the past 2 days total hours played is around 7 right now and it all ends up in frustration + alt-f4.

 

I am no carebear but I was wondering if it's always like that :P

 

Have you done all of your night quests that you can do until it requies you to be level 19?  It seems some servers are worse then others when it comes to White Sands and the Underhalls.  Only advice I can give is finish all the night quests you can and all the quests in the non PVP area's you can and/or make some buddies or a guild that may be having he same problem.

  zspawn

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12/30/08 3:20:52 AM#59
Originally posted by monoth
Originally posted by zspawn

 I agree I find them great, I'm a fan of more realistic looking armor ( = something that would someone would wear) rather than electro-charged blue shoulders that look more like a Halloween costume :P

 

Ya we all know a Male Guardian would wear a mini skirt and a crop top chest plate...  Totally realistic..  Hell even the semi macho crafted armor comes with a pink sash on it ....   Funcom needs to hire some artists with testastorne

Well also Roman legions wore something resembling skirts ? Same goes for Spartan and Athenian armies of ancient times :P

If Age of Conan is set in a similar timeline so to speak, I don't understand what kind of armor would you expect people to wear :P

Note that skirts = freedom of leg movement :D

I'm not  that deep in the game yet but from what I've equipped it looks quite on par with what i'd expect :P - But if you do have some proof of what you're saying i'd like to see some images cause I'm pretty far from endgame :D

 

-- Anyway and to answer to the previous post by Redruum:

No I actually haven't finished night quests and I am still lvl 17 - but I've done underhalls quests and white sands. I know ganking is really...really...annoying but I rolled a PvP server willingly. So what I did was make friends and kindly ask for help.

Let's just say a couple of people logged off in anger last night :D

Thing is no matter how annoyed I get (to the point of wanting to punch my laptop) if I take a 10 min break I find myself wanting to go back.

And there's something addicting about having to watch your back all the time :P

 

Well I'm still on my free month, I'm having fun, the server is packed, game runs smoother than I expected (honestly, I'm playing it at 1680x1050 on my laptop with a 8600GT).. 

Time will tell I guess :)

 

 

 

 

  AntiFear

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12/30/08 3:31:51 AM#60

Age of Conan is the best MMO of 2008, hands down, and i highly doubt darkfall will be of conan qualitly, even thought ill definaltely be playing it.

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