I have to commend you on a great post that is actually discussion.  You aren't seeking an arguement and you aren't trying to discredit anyone else for their opinions.  That being said, I REALLY hope that they will have a north american server.  I mean the fattest nation on earth needs to have a good local server.  I haven't read any replies to your post so i really hope this hasn't turned into a trollfest.

Originally posted by Evasia

OP :        Will Aventurine give preference to European players first, or will the NA players have equal rights to play on the European server?

This part concern me a little, not that i dont want US or other fans out side europe deny there chance playing europe but what if a few servers avaible at launch and lets say 40k US players have game and get a chance get ingame and servers are full and thousends of europeans like me cant get in:(

Im very pissed then, so i hope this will not happen.

 

Ive waited for 5 years to get my hands on this game so i realy hope i can play on launch day:)

I agree.

Even though I live in NA and would be bummed if they limited my ability to play on the European server...

IF the server space is limited... Europeans SHOULD get preference... it's their server afterall.

The same SHOULD hold true once the NA region gets their own server.

One thing that hasn't been made clear is if they will be doing any character transfers once the NA server does finally launch. 

With so much unknown about how long it will take to get the NA server up and running, and IF they will do character transfers... it has led to some of the angst that the NA players are expousing on the official forums.

Hopefully there will be some more information on this issue forth-coming from Tasos.

Originally posted by Ihmotepp 

That is the correct definition of vaporware.

Just because Darkfall releases, doesn't mean it was never vaporware.

Half Life 2 was once vaporware.

If Darkfall releases and does well, it will be redemptive software. That is, just like Half Life 2, software that became vaporware, but then turned out to be a good game after it finally released.

Blah blah blah... bs.

You know very well that people mean this when they say vaporware, what 1 guy edits a wikipedia page to say is crap tbh.  It even has a large warning at the top of page saying it's going to checked for accuracy.  Lets all just make new definitions for words up as we feel like it to suit our agenda.

Originally posted by Blodpls

Originally posted by Ihmotepp 

That is the correct definition of vaporware.

Just because Darkfall releases, doesn't mean it was never vaporware.

Half Life 2 was once vaporware.

If Darkfall releases and does well, it will be redemptive software. That is, just like Half Life 2, software that became vaporware, but then turned out to be a good game after it finally released.

 

Blah blah blah... bs.

You know very well that people mean this when they say vaporware, what 1 guy edits a wikipedia page to say is crap tbh.  It even has a large warning at the top of page saying it's going to checked for accuracy.  Lets all just make new definitions for words up as we feel like it to suit our agenda.

Ah yes, because UrbanDictionary.com is so much more accurate and reliable than wikipedia...

Originally posted by Blodpls

Originally posted by Ihmotepp 

That is the correct definition of vaporware.

Just because Darkfall releases, doesn't mean it was never vaporware.

Half Life 2 was once vaporware.

If Darkfall releases and does well, it will be redemptive software. That is, just like Half Life 2, software that became vaporware, but then turned out to be a good game after it finally released.

 

Blah blah blah... bs.

You know very well that people mean this when they say vaporware, what 1 guy edits a wikipedia page to say is crap tbh.  Lets all just make new definitions for words up as we feel like it to suit our agenda.

I agree with the link that Blodpls posted from Urban Dictionary.  Those definitions and the examples they gave are what the average person thinks of when mentioning vaporware.

Originally posted by Abrahmm 

 Ah yes, because UrbanDictionary.com is so much more accurate and reliable than wikipedia...

It is more representative than the wikipedia article when it comes to how people actually use the word in common speech, the definitions are voted for.  If your definition was the common usage then it would be at the top rather than not even listed. Real definitions in actual dictionaries are made in the same way, by linguists researching how people use language.

Originally posted by Blodpls

Originally posted by Abrahmm 

 Ah yes, because UrbanDictionary.com is so much more accurate and reliable than wikipedia...

 

It is more representative than the wikipedia article when it comes to how people actually use the word in common speech, the definitions are voted for.  If your definition was the common usage then it would be at the top rather than not even listed. Real definitions in actual dictionaries are made in the same way, by linguists researching how people use language.

You're just upset because you don't want the "trolls" to be right about something, and don't want anything negative being said about your precious game.

Originally posted by Abrahmm

Originally posted by Blodpls

Originally posted by Ihmotepp 

That is the correct definition of vaporware.

Just because Darkfall releases, doesn't mean it was never vaporware.

Half Life 2 was once vaporware.

If Darkfall releases and does well, it will be redemptive software. That is, just like Half Life 2, software that became vaporware, but then turned out to be a good game after it finally released.

 

Blah blah blah... bs.

You know very well that people mean this when they say vaporware, what 1 guy edits a wikipedia page to say is crap tbh.  It even has a large warning at the top of page saying it's going to checked for accuracy.  Lets all just make new definitions for words up as we feel like it to suit our agenda.

 

Ah yes, because UrbanDictionary.com is so much more accurate and reliable than wikipedia...

Heh.... you have a point Abrahmm. 

I do like Urban Dictionary's voting method for the definitions though.  It at least gives you some sense of what a number of other users think on the matter. 

www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/vaporware

This is what Merriam-Webster has to say on the subject:

vaporware

: a computer-related product that has been widely advertised but has not and may never become available

So... who wants to take up the "widely advertised" semantics for the next 3 pages? 

10,000 regular players = 5 journalists from the UK 

Originally posted by Abrahmm 

You're just upset because you don't want the "trolls" to be right about something, and don't want anything negative being said about your precious game.

Well they aren't right are they?  Everyone who said that this game was vaporware was saying it in the sense that it was never going to release, and they and everyone else knows it.  It's funny how all these alternative definitions spring up now it looks like it will release, it's just an attempt to save face by the naysayers.

Originally posted by Briansho

10,000 regular players = 5 journalists from the UK 

5 journalists from the UK have maxed out the sever?   Dirty buggers! 

We need another server now!!!  (Heh... figured I'd get a head start).

who knows....

wait no one does

I can only see one dead server with 100 fanbois on it.

Every MMO should follow what WoW did with their servers. Do you honestly think that WoW took as long as they did because of limits in ability or funds? Hell no!. They kept the servers and amount of people that these servers could hold limited for a reason, to keep the hype going. Most people's train of thought will be - If all the game servers are full, and you are in que to log in then the game must be great if there isn't nay normal time a person can log on. Once the hype generates enough revenue to complete open another server for basically free (meaning the sales pay for a each new server to open making the monthly basically completly profit) then a new server will be opnened and this porcess will continue. Furthermore, with a limited player base, more people won't expereince the begining bugs that every MMO has due to not being able to play the game much, further increasing the percieved value of the game. Its a great biz tactic.

Originally posted by Blodpls

Well they aren't right are they?  Everyone who said that this game was vaporware was saying it in the sense that it was never going to release, and they and everyone else knows it.  It's funny how all these alternative definitions spring up now it looks like it will release, it's just an attempt to save face by the naysayers.

Ok. If we use the widely accepted definition and the one that I believe from UrbanDictionary... Darkfall is currently vaporware. If it ever does release it will no longer be vaporware. But right now, it is. And that's a fact no matter what definition you use until the game is ACTUALLY released.

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No different than Tasos making the assinine proclamation of having "3 million followers".
 

The good thing about having a 10,000 player max server is it will never lag with the 50 people playing it.

Originally posted by Zorvan

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No different than Tasos making the assinine proclamation of having "3 million followers".
 

The good thing about having a 10,000 player max server is it will never lag with the 50 people playing it.

With 50 i all admit i had a problem cause that would be only a part of my guild , we would rule the server and had no one to kill ..

But good thing we could pick the best remote location for the capital of our empire ..But we could split us in 2 guilds for more fun and still had more "mass PvP" Battles then many competitors have atm ;)