Hey Floppy, well so far I dont regret joinin BDF, most of the people I have met have been pretty cool. Sure there are some chumps on the server but you notice them in like the first five minutes of meeting them or hearing their BS on general chat. As for language, Im not the conservative type. I have a somewhat foul mouth some would say. I dont neccessarily believe in bad words. In my opinion you dont have to say a particular word to be disrespectful and sticks and stones dont brake my bones bro. Sure I cuss but Im not out tryin to offend anyone. Now if someone wants to f*#k with the loot option and screw me intintially Im out and they'll get ignored. I joined a guild called "THE KNIGHTS OF VIRTUE" and so far they are very cool and helpfull. Im sorry you had a terrible time on BDF, but Im not so far, things musta changed. If anyone has any suggestions for a great well ballanced server, Im listening, and if I do end up hating BDF I will be lookin for a change. One thing that kinda sucks is the amount of twinks in BG and Arena, but I bet all servers are like that by now. If I have a problem with BDF, I'll probly go to a RPPvP server. PEACE

Floppy, it should be a well known WoW (and really any game) rule, that you can't judge a server by its forums.  Forums are notorious for bringing out all the bozos and trolls that have nothing better to do than creating drama where it isn't needed.  The server I used to play on was actually quite good, but if you went to the forums it could be just as stupid as any other (although not as bad as the General Forum..that place is terrible).

The problem is that the today's kids are groing up without any respect for other people especial for adults....u have to change the real world for it...wow is a nice game but because the low entrance u  will catch ignorant pubers over and over again...

In eve-online the age is a bit higher from 20-60. Give it a try for some months if u like sci-fi mmo's.

Originally posted by punkrok42060

  Hey Floppy, well so far I dont regret joinin BDF, most of the people I have met have been pretty cool. Sure there are some chumps on the server but you notice them in like the first five minutes of meeting them or hearing their BS on general chat. As for language, Im not the conservative type. I have a somewhat foul mouth some would say. I dont neccessarily believe in bad words. In my opinion you dont have to say a particular word to be disrespectful and sticks and stones dont brake my bones bro. Sure I cuss but Im not out tryin to offend anyone. Now if someone wants to f*#k with the loot option and screw me intintially Im out and they'll get ignored. I joined a guild called "THE KNIGHTS OF VIRTUE" and so far they are very cool and helpfull. Im sorry you had a terrible time on BDF, but Im not so far, things musta changed. If anyone has any suggestions for a great well ballanced server, Im listening, and if I do end up hating BDF I will be lookin for a change. One thing that kinda sucks is the amount of twinks in BG and Arena, but I bet all servers are like that by now. If I have a problem with BDF, I'll probly go to a RPPvP server. PEACE

 

Did you even listen to those vent recordings of Sikk? Sure, there are a-holes on every server but not every server worships them as heroes.

Firstly punkrok42060 I played on 4 different realms during my 3.5 years of WoW. While BDF was good at the start by the end of it after 2 years it was the worst server by a massive margin. And I still keep in touch with quite a few BDF'ers and I still know whats going on in the realm. Actually, I would know more about what is happening on BDF right now than you do and my subscription has been inactive for a couple of weeks now. Any server is going to seem pretty good when you just start off and you're levelling. But if you want decent guilds that aren't elistist, drama filled and dominated by young kids then look elsewhere.

I took the infamous "Fires of Heaven" transfer back when BDF was opened. (at the time PvE to PvP transfers were VERY rare and most people believe it was done because a WoW developer plays in Fires of Heaven and that they wanted to move from Hyjal a PvE realm to a PvP). I was on BDF from day one. Even though it was a PvP realm it was only initially open to transfers from 4 PvE realms, Hyjal, Lightbringer and 2 others I dont remember. So basically it was a bunch of PvE'ers on a PvP realm so thats what was reflected.

The amount of guild drama compared to other realms I have played on is mind staggering. I could write a book about how elitist, arrogant, drama filled the guilds on BDF are. Sure most realms have some of those type of guilds. But virtually all alliance side raiding guilds currently are not the sort of guilds I personally would want to be associated with since I consider myself a fair and mature person. I'll give you one little example. Some members from a guild called Zealous who led a 25 man raid on Archavon only to master loot all the loot to themselves. Sure, that happens on every realm but from the 2nd most progressed Alliance guild?(they were 3rd but one of the few half-decent raiding guilds Lawn Pirates just imploded) But this guild has done it numerous times. And their justification? That the other members in the raid were from "scrub" guilds who have terrible progression and didnt deserve it. This stuff happens ALL the time on BDF. As I said it happens on other realms too but usually those people doing it get a bad rep. Nope, not on BDF. If you aren't in a top raiding guild you're worse than dirt. And I'm sure some genius will point out how a lot of realms are like that. But I can guarantee you that a lot of realms are NOT like that.

If you dont care about endgame raiding or high end PvP then fine. You can find a few nice people to stay in a small guild. But in that case you can do that on ANY realm so why bother asking for a mature realm?

There are some decent guilds. Horde side have a couple. Alliance side has a few decent casual raiding guilds. But what I found was a lot of the casual raiding guilds struggled to keep a decent raiding roster and to have any sort of steady progression. On BDF it was hardcore of gtfo. When I transferred off BDF I found a nice raiding guild of mature people that was also pretty good. Something I was unable to do on BDF. I could find good guilds that were obnoxious or nice guilds that were bad a raiding.

I can recommend the RP-PvP realm Lightninghoof as I had a couple of friends from BDF transfer there to get away from the asshats but still be on a PvP realm (I transferred back to a PvE realm)

Originally posted by Rocktober

Floppy, it should be a well known WoW (and really any game) rule, that you can't judge a server by its forums.  Forums are notorious for bringing out all the bozos and trolls that have nothing better to do than creating drama where it isn't needed.  The server I used to play on was actually quite good, but if you went to the forums it could be just as stupid as any other (although not as bad as the General Forum..that place is terrible).

Right. I forgot that I wasn't allowed to read the forums of other realms to make a comparison.

Its just not theres anyonmous trolls and idiots on the BDF or a few kids attention seeking. Its the constant crap posted by the players from the top raiding guilds and people who have been on the realm for awhile and play a lot. The constant pissing contests, arguments, belittling other guilds on progression, insulting them for being "baddies". Just mocking people constantly for their UI, mods, arena ratings as well as their gear. Infact, BDF reminds me of general forums.

Actually, I transferred back to a Normal from after I left BDF. The forums on this realm are dead. Its just guild recruitment posts. The forums are actually very boring. And you can say that reflects the server. It was hardly the best progressed server in terms of PvP and PvE but it was much more drama free.

Originally posted by floppyface

Right. I forgot that I wasn't allowed to read the forums of other realms to make a comparison.

Its just not theres anyonmous trolls and idiots on the BDF or a few kids attention seeking. Its the constant crap posted by the players from the top raiding guilds and people who have been on the realm for awhile and play a lot. The constant pissing contests, arguments, belittling other guilds on progression, insulting them for being "baddies". Just mocking people constantly for their UI, mods, arena ratings as well as their gear. Infact, BDF reminds me of general forums.

Actually, I transferred back to a Normal from after I left BDF. The forums on this realm are dead. Its just guild recruitment posts. The forums are actually very boring. And you can say that reflects the server. It was hardly the best progressed server in terms of PvP and PvE but it was much more drama free.

Not sure what you're trying to get at with the first sentence, but as an "outsider looking in" BDF's forums don't look very bad, even comparing them to similar servers.  As for the next paragraph, all I can say is..it's a PvP server, and what do you honestly expect?  Every PvP server I've been on, an nearly every PvP player I've encountered has acted like this.  One of the points of PvP is to kick butt and take names, be the best, etc..naturally the attitude is going to follow and spill onto the forums where everyone tries to one up the other.  And that right there is probably a part of why the forums for your new server seem so very different.