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12/10/08 11:39:12 AM#101
Sorry to inform you.. but this mmo will not be f2p
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12/10/08 11:51:33 AM#102
Originally posted by Precusor
With what Bioware and EA have said all we know at this time is we don't officialy know if it will be or not lol. |
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12/10/08 11:52:56 AM#103
Originally posted by Precusor
Ummm it might be f2p with microtransactions .... Doesnt necessarily mean the box will be free.... But the game itself might be f2p with a micro transaction system... More and more people are adopting them... And if done right as i stated earlier they can be quite benificial to all parties... |
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12/10/08 11:53:25 AM#104
Originally posted by hubertgrove
You have to be incredibly dense to not realize that is just damage control. No where did he say that it wasn't true, they just said they haven't officially announced it yet, and will announce it later. That doesn't mean there won't be microtransactions, it just means they aren't going to tell us there will be yet. Big difference. Tried: LotR, CoH, AoC, WAR, Jumpgate Classic |
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12/10/08 11:56:08 AM#105
Originally posted by Abrahmm
"Hey everyone, sorry for not chiming in right with this but I wanted to confirm the accuracy of what I was going to say before posting it. This unfortunately was a big misunderstanding and I want to be clear: we have made no official statements about the business model for Star Wars™: The Old Republic™. When we do have information as to business model for The Old Republic, we will definitely share it with all of you and you’ll find that information here on the official website. Sean "Ashen Temper" Dahlberg
You have to be incredibly dense to not realize that is just damage control. No where did he say that it wasn't true, they just said they haven't officially announced it yet, and will announce it later. That doesn't mean there won't be microtransactions, it just means they aren't going to tell us there will be yet. Big difference.
Yeah if it wasn't going to be MT then I see no reason why they would not just come out and say it will not be. Instead they just throw out some fancy foot work saying we haven't announced anything officialy lol. So, until they say it will not be a MT based game I will stick with the fact they have said it will be LOL. |
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singsofdeath
 Novice Member
Joined: 1/28/06
"You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity." |
12/10/08 11:59:40 AM#106
Originally posted by Abrahmm
"Hey everyone, sorry for not chiming in right with this but I wanted to confirm the accuracy of what I was going to say before posting it. This unfortunately was a big misunderstanding and I want to be clear: we have made no official statements about the business model for Star Wars™: The Old Republic™. When we do have information as to business model for The Old Republic, we will definitely share it with all of you and you’ll find that information here on the official website. Sean "Ashen Temper" Dahlberg
You have to be incredibly dense to not realize that is just damage control. No where did he say that it wasn't true, they just said they haven't officially announced it yet, and will announce it later. That doesn't mean there won't be microtransactions, it just means they aren't going to tell us there will be yet. Big difference.
"Originally Posted by SeanDahlberg We haven't revealed the business model because we're not ready to. As I stated in my first posting in the community, we only want to give you, our fans, fair and accurate information. We don’t want to tell you how we want something to work; we want to tell you how something does work. So, until a system is working as intended or a feature is fully implemented, we will rarely discuss it."
They do, in fact, say that they have not decided on anything.
Again...(for the fourth time now), I am pretty much convinced EA did this (probably without telling BW about it), to test reactions to such a business model.
The reaction was a thread on the official forum that burst to 60 pages and more in an hour and grew to over a hundred pages in the last day, and still continuing to grow, with about 99% negative feedback on specific MT models. Plus a drop in hype on this site, if they check this at all.
*shrugs* They got their reaction. |
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singsofdeath
Novice Member
Joined: 1/28/06
"You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity." |
12/10/08 12:00:43 PM#107
Originally posted by GrayGhost79
You have to be incredibly dense to not realize that is just damage control. No where did he say that it wasn't true, they just said they haven't officially announced it yet, and will announce it later. That doesn't mean there won't be microtransactions, it just means they aren't going to tell us there will be yet. Big difference.
Yeah if it wasn't going to be MT then I see no reason why they would not just come out and say it will not be. Instead they just throw out some fancy foot work saying we haven't announced anything officialy lol. So, until they say it will not be a MT based game I will stick with the fact they have said it will be LOL.
Kinda reminds you of a certain Dev for a certain game who is extremely good at playing with words so they fit every circumstance...doesn't it? |
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12/10/08 12:04:16 PM#108
Originally posted by singsofdeath
You have to be incredibly dense to not realize that is just damage control. No where did he say that it wasn't true, they just said they haven't officially announced it yet, and will announce it later. That doesn't mean there won't be microtransactions, it just means they aren't going to tell us there will be yet. Big difference.
Yeah if it wasn't going to be MT then I see no reason why they would not just come out and say it will not be. Instead they just throw out some fancy foot work saying we haven't announced anything officialy lol. So, until they say it will not be a MT based game I will stick with the fact they have said it will be LOL.
Kinda reminds you of a certain Dev for a certain game who is extremely good at playing with words so they fit every circumstance...doesn't it?
Won't deny that lol. Still doesn't change the fact that all EA and Bioware are saying is that it isn't official. With the reactions they got, there best bet would to be come out and say point blank there won't be microtransaction's. Besides it's a bit different when the majority following the game go, meh ok vs when the majority following the game say "WTF!!!!!!!!!! F THIS IM OUT!" lol. |
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singsofdeath
Novice Member
Joined: 1/28/06
"You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity." |
12/10/08 12:08:06 PM#109
Originally posted by GrayGhost79
Yeah if it wasn't going to be MT then I see no reason why they would not just come out and say it will not be. Instead they just throw out some fancy foot work saying we haven't announced anything officialy lol. So, until they say it will not be a MT based game I will stick with the fact they have said it will be LOL.
Kinda reminds you of a certain Dev for a certain game who is extremely good at playing with words so they fit every circumstance...doesn't it?
Won't deny that lol. Still doesn't change the fact that all EA and Bioware are saying is that it isn't official. With the reactions they got, there best bet would to be come out and say point blank there won't be microtransaction's.
That's what everyone is hoping for I suppose. *shrugs*
Or at least, to clear up what they mean with MT's. I mean...EVE has MT's. WoW has MT's. Many games have MT's that are agreeable and are -OK- to a certain extent (that would be name change, server-transfer, large content upgrades maybe, or, in EVE's case, In-Game Credits for GTC's).
One more time, let's say it all together: This was a calculated leak on EA's part to gauge the market for a MT business model. Nothing more, nothing less. A stupid move, and I'm pretty sure even BioWare would say so (if they were allowed LOL), but a business-move to stake out the territory.
As I said...they got their reply. A pretty loud reply, too. If they want to kill the game before it launches, they now know what to do. XD |
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12/10/08 12:12:18 PM#110
Originally posted by singsofdeath
Yeah if it wasn't going to be MT then I see no reason why they would not just come out and say it will not be. Instead they just throw out some fancy foot work saying we haven't announced anything officialy lol. So, until they say it will not be a MT based game I will stick with the fact they have said it will be LOL.
Kinda reminds you of a certain Dev for a certain game who is extremely good at playing with words so they fit every circumstance...doesn't it?
Won't deny that lol. Still doesn't change the fact that all EA and Bioware are saying is that it isn't official. With the reactions they got, there best bet would to be come out and say point blank there won't be microtransaction's.
That's what everyone is hoping for I suppose. *shrugs*
Or at least, to clear up what they mean with MT's. I mean...EVE has MT's. WoW has MT's. Many games have MT's that are agreeable and are -OK- to a certain extent (that would be name change, server-transfer, large content upgrades maybe, or, in EVE's case, In-Game Credits for GTC's).
One more time, let's say it all together: This was a calculated leak on EA's part to gauge the market for a MT business model. Nothing more, nothing less. A stupid move, and I'm pretty sure even BioWare would say so (if they were allowed LOL), but a business-move to stake out the territory.
As I said...they got their reply. A pretty loud reply, too. If they want to kill the game before it launches, they now know what to do. XD
I can go with that. With EvE, WoW there's a distinct line drawn in the sand by the players. Apparently this is what happens when you cross that line XD. |
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12/10/08 1:35:43 PM#111
pity this game is now a complete miss no checking forums or websites for updates or some new exciting developments - written off
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12/10/08 1:36:00 PM#112
Originally posted by singsofdeath
So they didn't officially announce it yet. They don't deny it. They don't affirm it. With this much negative public reaction, this dance around the truth is basically an affirmation. RMT in some form is coming to SWTOR.
The question now becomes, to what extent? This is the first of many disturbing revelations to come, I fear.
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singsofdeath
Novice Member
Joined: 1/28/06
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12/10/08 1:39:12 PM#113
Originally posted by Terranah
So they didn't officially announce it yet. They don't deny it. They don't affirm it. With this much negative public reaction, this dance around the truth is basically an affirmation. RMT in some form is coming to SWTOR.
The question now becomes, to what extent? This is the first of many disturbing revelations to come, I fear.
Read my other quote on the subject.
First, to me it sounds like at least BioWare has said they have -not- decided on any business model.
Second, nobody knows what MT means in this context. (Could be character-transfers, name-changes, anything games like WoW and EVE already offer as MT's).
Third, the interview was a mess in the first place to be honest. Warhammer Online has MT? Where? I never saw it while I played it. And many people got the impression from that article that EA said they used MT in Warhammer. So...eh.
But one thing I will say. They better come out with some information quick. Damage Control is useless now. |
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12/10/08 5:18:03 PM#114
Originally posted by Terranah
So they didn't officially announce it yet. They don't deny it. They don't affirm it. With this much negative public reaction, this dance around the truth is basically an affirmation. RMT in some form is coming to SWTOR.
The question now becomes, to what extent? This is the first of many disturbing revelations to come, I fear.
EA's CEO did the same thing he did when he let it slip that BioWare's MMO was based on Star Wars. TOR's payment system has been unofficially revealed. We don't have the exact details, but we know it will be RMT based. There was no misunderstanding, it was just that EA's CEO again revealed something before it was supposed to be announced. He seems to have a habit of doing that. We'll have to wait until February to know the exact details, but we know what to expect.
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12/10/08 5:24:10 PM#115
Well, if they do decide to go with the microtransaction model I will not be buying this game. A lot of what I've heard about this game already has me thinking I'll be passing on it. I thought basing an MMO on KOTOR would be amazing, but it sounds like Bioware is pretty determined to make a game I will personally hate. |
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TookyG
 Warhammer Online Correspondent
Joined: 4/19/04
"...you mean three philippino women." |
12/10/08 5:50:51 PM#116
Well the game certainly fell from it's top spot on the hyper meter since this was announced. Not surprising at all really. MT is for Asian countries because of internet cafes and the annual income of people in those countries. In the West, it's all about subscriptions. Until you cancel your subscription, you are only helping to continue the cycle of mediocrity. |
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12/10/08 6:25:48 PM#117
Originally posted by ianicus
another stupid pointless post! woooooo let the flames of stupidity live long! I think its just about time I delete my MMORPG.COM account, as 90% of the userbase have nothing good nor intelligent to contribute besides showing me how quickly they can soil themselves...THATS what I smell....
Someone I agree with! People, you need to stop being so dramatic and worried about everything. He also mentioned Warhammer in that statement. Is it microtransation? No. Could they mean they're going to come out with some games that are subscription based and some that are microtransation based? I just find it funny how much you people on this forum freak out or get so obsessed with things. AoC is going to be the greatest thing ever! Wait, no it sucked, lets switch to Warhammer! No that sucked too. All games now are going to suck even when they come from a proven company like Bioware! When they actually announce things and its posted on their website then start flailing and yelling to anyone who will listen. If you rush to conclusions you're just going to look stupid in the future. |
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TookyG
Warhammer Online Correspondent
Joined: 4/19/04
"...you mean three philippino women." |
12/10/08 7:21:58 PM#118
Originally posted by scott21493
Just a note regarding this post: He mentioned Warhammer as a traditional subscription-based game whereas SWTOR was mentioned as "mid-session." Until you cancel your subscription, you are only helping to continue the cycle of mediocrity. |
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12/10/08 10:03:27 PM#119
Originally posted by TookyG
Just a note regarding this post: He mentioned Warhammer as a traditional subscription-based game whereas SWTOR was mentioned as "mid-session."
You all keep forgetting that this news was spilled by the 'Crazy Larry & His Mile of Used Cars' of the MMO world. Riccietto is to be trusted about as far as he can be thrown. |
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12/11/08 8:07:34 AM#120
maybe I have this concept wrong, but it sounds like EA wants to milk it for whatever they can really quickly as if there expecting the game to fail overall in the long run? |
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