Originally posted by Obee

Originally posted by darwa

Originally posted by nakuma

if i had 200 plat, and was given 5 plat, yeah id feel guilty for not reporting it. but id throw a fit if they wiped all my 200 plat. if they didnt resolve it, by putting back the other 195 plat id cancel my sub str8 away. but seems the OP doesnt care that the devs took 195 pp, so his complaint seems suspect. 195pp isnt easy to make. takes a bit of work regardless.

 

You're obviously entitled to your opinion, but please take into consideration a few more facts.

I have been playing since launch.

I have 2 accounts. The other one has my crafters on.

I have 4 mastercrafters. Even lvl 22 mastercrafted plate armour sells for around 25g each on my server (presumably due to Shadowknight being the current FotM class). Adept 3 spells from 70-80 sell for 3pp upwards.

I made the money back within 48 hours.

Incidentally, I'm levelling up a conjuror (lvl 73) at the moment, and made 5pp in 4 hours just from running missions in Kylong Plains and selling the rewards and other trash loot. I also got 2 master spells that sold for 10pp and 14pp.

Essentially, 195pp is easy to make (for me) but would indeed be hard for a newer player, or a non-crafter.

 

Your willingness to be treated so poorly by SOE will make them much more likely to treat others poorly.  Your acceptance does nothing but make SOE a worse company.

 

 

Pure logic prevails! Bravo, this lad is quite correct and I would not set an example for SoE if I had the choice.

Originally posted by nakuma

if i had 200 plat, and was given 5 plat, yeah id feel guilty for not reporting it. but id throw a fit if they wiped all my 200 plat. if they didnt resolve it, by putting back the other 195 plat id cancel my sub str8 away. but seems the OP doesnt care that the devs took 195 pp, so his complaint seems suspect. 195pp isnt easy to make. takes a bit of work regardless.

It is not so hard, if you are lucking and get a few master spells at high levels you have them fast.

I guess the goldseller sent the gold wrong but it is kinda odd, 5 plat is peanuts, who buy so little?

And if the OP is really addicted he would still play even if Smedley came home to him to give him a wedgie every day...

Originally posted by Obee

Originally posted by darwa

Originally posted by nakuma

if i had 200 plat, and was given 5 plat, yeah id feel guilty for not reporting it. but id throw a fit if they wiped all my 200 plat. if they didnt resolve it, by putting back the other 195 plat id cancel my sub str8 away. but seems the OP doesnt care that the devs took 195 pp, so his complaint seems suspect. 195pp isnt easy to make. takes a bit of work regardless.

 

You're obviously entitled to your opinion, but please take into consideration a few more facts.

I have been playing since launch.

I have 2 accounts. The other one has my crafters on.

I have 4 mastercrafters. Even lvl 22 mastercrafted plate armour sells for around 25g each on my server (presumably due to Shadowknight being the current FotM class). Adept 3 spells from 70-80 sell for 3pp upwards.

I made the money back within 48 hours.

Incidentally, I'm levelling up a conjuror (lvl 73) at the moment, and made 5pp in 4 hours just from running missions in Kylong Plains and selling the rewards and other trash loot. I also got 2 master spells that sold for 10pp and 14pp.

Essentially, 195pp is easy to make (for me) but would indeed be hard for a newer player, or a non-crafter.

 

Your willingness to be treated so poorly by SOE will make them much more likely to treat others poorly.  Your acceptance does nothing but make SOE a worse company.

 

 

I see from your post history that you are one of the SOE hatecrew, and that's fine with me. Personally, I have a vendetta against carrots.

However, I don't consider this being treated poorly (they're showing that they are taking an active stance against gold sellers/buyers) at all.

I should probably add that they credited this account 28 days playtime as an apology yesterday. I hadn't requested or expected that, so it was a lovely surprise. Such a bad company. lol

Originally posted by darwa

Originally posted by Obee

Originally posted by darwa

Originally posted by nakuma

if i had 200 plat, and was given 5 plat, yeah id feel guilty for not reporting it. but id throw a fit if they wiped all my 200 plat. if they didnt resolve it, by putting back the other 195 plat id cancel my sub str8 away. but seems the OP doesnt care that the devs took 195 pp, so his complaint seems suspect. 195pp isnt easy to make. takes a bit of work regardless.

 

You're obviously entitled to your opinion, but please take into consideration a few more facts.

I have been playing since launch.

I have 2 accounts. The other one has my crafters on.

I have 4 mastercrafters. Even lvl 22 mastercrafted plate armour sells for around 25g each on my server (presumably due to Shadowknight being the current FotM class). Adept 3 spells from 70-80 sell for 3pp upwards.

I made the money back within 48 hours.

Incidentally, I'm levelling up a conjuror (lvl 73) at the moment, and made 5pp in 4 hours just from running missions in Kylong Plains and selling the rewards and other trash loot. I also got 2 master spells that sold for 10pp and 14pp.

Essentially, 195pp is easy to make (for me) but would indeed be hard for a newer player, or a non-crafter.

 

Your willingness to be treated so poorly by SOE will make them much more likely to treat others poorly.  Your acceptance does nothing but make SOE a worse company.

 

 

 

I see from your post history that you are one of the SOE hatecrew, and that's fine with me. Personally, I have a vendetta against carrots.

However, I don't consider this being treated poorly (they're showing that they are taking an active stance against gold sellers/buyers) at all.

I should probably add that they credited this account 28 days playtime as an apology yesterday. I hadn't requested or expected that, so it was a lovely surprise. Such a bad company. lol

Good for them (and you) that they gave you some form of restitution for deleting you in-game money.  It does nothing to change my point that your willingness to defend SOE deleting your in-game money in the first place will make it much more likely they will do it to someone else.  Your acceptance of poor treatment only increases the likleyhood that someone else is going to recieve similar treatment.

As the OP said, while it was an annoyance they made the money back in a very short time period. If they enjoy the game then it would be foolish to leave family and friends over the mistake SOE made.

If the OP had said SOE punished them by wiping their characters out, then they would be foolish to continue playing.

I've had similar non-critical issues with various gaming companies over the years and just mark it down as one black mark in the book. Too many (subjective to each person) black marks with one particular company would equal loss of my sub.

Originally posted by darwa

A few days ago, I received an in game mail containing 5 plat from someone that I didn't know. The mail simply said 'thanks' so I figured I must have helped someone out and forgotten about it.

This morning, I logged in to find that I have no money on any of my characters on that account, so I contacted support. Apparently the money I'd received had been duped and I should have reported it immediately.

Support said that they removed all my money because that 5 plat was not only duped, but sent from an account they had discovered was used for gold selling.

I had close to 200 plat on that account, so why would I have bought 5? Ugh.

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 Something similar happened a few years ago in SWG.  There was a massive credit dupe and the dupers went around sending money to all sorts of people.  (in SWG there is a slash command that lets you instantly send money to peoples bank that you are standing next to, not trade window needed and you can not stop it.  At least there was during that time).  It spread like wildfire for a while.  People would just run around tipping millions of credits to other players. 

SOE banned anyone who got duped money, including people who had NPCs vendors selling their crafted items while there were offline.  Anyone who got banned needed to file a petition and go through a review process to make sure they were not guilty.  It was a bad situation for SOE to be in, but they were way to heavy handed. 

You might have some luck filing a petition and trying to get it reversed.  If you have a history of getting money from people in the mail and find a reasonable CSR they should revert the money back to you.  Also if someone is just randomly sending out duped plat to flood the CSRs they should be understanding about it.

Originally posted by Daffid011

 Something similar happened a few years ago in SWG.  There was a massive credit dupe and the dupers went around sending money to all sorts of people.  (in SWG there is a slash command that lets you instantly send money to peoples bank that you are standing next to, not trade window needed and you can not stop it.  At least there was during that time).  It spread like wildfire for a while.  People would just run around tipping millions of credits to other players. 

 

SOE banned anyone who got duped money, including people who had NPCs vendors selling their crafted items while there were offline.  Anyone who got banned needed to file a petition and go through a review process to make sure they were not guilty.  It was a bad situation for SOE to be in, but they were way to heavy handed. 

 

You might have some luck filing a petition and trying to get it reversed.  If you have a history of getting money from people in the mail and find a reasonable CSR they should revert the money back to you.  Also if someone is just randomly sending out duped plat to flood the CSRs they should be understanding about it.

I got caught in the SWG credit dupe as well. I'd completely forgotten about that. I had a T-21 with mindfire on a vendor for an insane amount and someone bought it with duped credits. Same account as well.

I think this was the only time in EQ2 that I've either sent or received money through the mail on this server. I used to do it on my first server quite a bit though, but that was many moons ago.

At the end of the day, I think SOE took the right action, and I'm certainly not bitter. The 28 days free gametime on Station Access more than makes up for the less IMO.