Originally posted by Valyn213

Some people said that Tasos came off egotistical...  I think it was more like confident.  Most of the questions were very straight forward and deserved the answer they got.  I mean when a 'reporter' says 'alot of people think blah blah, ' its usually a veiled attack, almost forcing a defensive statement.

With how low people's expections are now for MMO launches, we forget how good they can be too.  Anyone ever had a crash in guild wars...  EVER?  Hell, i get DC'ed from GW and i can reconnect and be right where i was standing.  NO other major game does that, let alone MMO.  Hopefully this is the kind of quality they are aiming for, Tasos sure makes it sound like it.  Not just 'able' to handle the launch, not just launch with a minimum of issues.  But thay want to have the stress test/larger beta go just as well.

Tasos makes it sound like they actually understand that A LOT of people's opnions of the game are formed during beta.  A lot of companies don't understand that.  People also feel like they have know better than the creators/publishers on how to market the game.  A lot of people are also idiots.

Assuming what Tasos said is true, they are handling things great.  But Mythic also said Warhammer was ready for launch a month before the game came out. They are only now fixing BASIC ui problems, among 1000 other things they fixed after launch (3-4 months after "it's ready for launch now if we wanted") A lot of people are jaded by game's being touted as the best game since sliced bread (MMO and other)....  when they are worth less than the Burger King games.

Good points.   

I some how feel Darkfall will be less buggy because they know it can't be in order to be successful.  It is nice when a game company is not getting forced into releasing by publishers.  

I do know as a WARHAMMER Beta tester they would come down very hard on critical posts.   No one was allowed to give overal feedback for example.  Beta forum natzi modding I feel does not help a game company understand the players.

Originally posted by Ozmodan

Originally posted by imbant

Originally posted by Ozmodan

Cracks me up when he calls the skeptics trolls.  They have let no one see the game, have not shown it at any shows or let anyone play it besides internal testers and he wonders why people are a bit skeptical about the game's existence? 

 

Are you serious?

This is why the fans of the game get so frustrated with people like yourself.  You make these bold statements as facts when you are actually 100% wrong.

Hasn't shown it an any shows?

ADW - see the official forums or the DF section of this website for links

Hasn't let anyone else seen it besides the INTERNAL testers?

How about the guys from MMORPG.it who played it and posted a review.  How about all the non employees who signed up for beta and got in and have posted their thoughts?  Or Gianna from the noob comic?

 

I SUGGEST YOU READ THIS THREAD AND CATCH YOURSELF UP TO SPEED

Well you can continue denying reality and live in your fantasy world, but the rest of us are satisfied with the facts as I stated.  There has never been a major review of the game by any known journalist and even at the Athens show only certain screened people were allowed to play it.   That validates my comments in spades.

Tasos comes off very arrogant in his interview and that is about the worst thing you can do trying to get others to play your game.

I hope Adventurine does pull it off, but let's face it the success rate of small indie developers is probably in the single digits.  We could all use another success story like Eve.

Oh and on a 2nd note.  Give the state of AI and today's technology, it is not possible to simulate how a server will handle live accounts accessing it by using bot software.  About all you end up doing with such a test is to see how the server handles a host of message events, you won't be able to actually incur much of a processing load on the server that way.   

Oh.. how stupid you are going to look. Come of your high horses, before you fall flat on your face.

Originally posted by nileq

Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

Originally posted by imbant

Originally posted by LukePlumber

Originally posted by Ozmodan

Cracks me up when he calls the skeptics trolls.  They have let no one see the game uhm... reports of people who visited their studios.  beta, italian guys, Gianna from TheNoob etc, have not shown it at any shows Athens Digital Week or let anyone play it besides internal testers and several hundreds of beta testers again: and he wonders why people are a bit skeptical about the game's existence? after releasing over 20 minutes of gameplay footage, showing it off at the athens digital week, letting 2 sites make a preview and some external guys visit their studios and write articles about, after releasing over one hundred screenshotss... yes, he probably wonders...  He really can't be that naive can he?  was going to ask you the same question.

 

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Exactly.  But apparently the people with "wisdom" will read what you just wrote and completely ignore the fact that you are right, and instead mention how you clearly must be new to the genre.

Common sense always wins.

 

The only thing that will end the skepticism, is proof.

 

I don’t care how many behind-closed door showings they have given of the game, every single bit of it was sanitized.

 

 

 

now you are comming of as plain ignorant, just admit to that you where wrong.

For that I would have to be wrong, and you would have to be able to understand what i am saying, instead of assuming things, and flaming. Try reading.

Enjoy darkfall.

Originally posted by Kyleran

Originally posted by kishe

Hes not really arrogant..more defensive...because yeah, the questions were aggressive.

 

and he said he doesnt care that theres much hate for Darkfall, because its true that people who troll and bash the game months before release is likely to buy it so they can troll & bash the game PAST release too...so people who hate & bash the game for months in fact are AS important to them as hardcore fanboys.

 

I think it was Donald Trump that said "There's no such thing as bad publicity"

 

 

Games that fail fastest are those that no one is interested to even talk about.

 

 

LOL, this thread is jumping up by the page faster than I could read them. (edit, added yet another page just in the time it took me to type this)

But I agree with you.  The tone of the interview was aggressive and probing, and Tasos reacted defensively and with a bit of arrogance. Means he's a real person after all.  Got so tired of those emotionless reports he's published.  I now believe that Tasos is real.

If MMORPG.com had pulled any punches, or gone soft, people would be screaming. 

Also, if you really think his answers were that offensive, dismissive, egotisical, what have you, then I'm going to put forth that you aren't really the right material to play Darkfall.

Seriously, this is a game of attitude and arrogance, and you'd better have a bit of both (and be able to take it as well as dish it out) to really enjoy the game.  If not, DF is just not your game. (we have very similar parallels in EVE)

This is not a game for your children, wife, girlfriend (boyfriend) to play casually with you, its a game where many players are going to be playing for blood and honor, (and just plain because the love to gank) and thats what its all about, the freedom to build your own world, or to tear it down if you like.

I want to thank Stradden and the staff of MMORPG.com for arranging this interview, and coming up with firm facts like the number of people in beta ( I was right, all you people who accused me of trolling yesterday) and that they are ready to announce a release date. (in a matter of days, not months)

Finally I've read something from a new source that I trust and I'm willing to give Tasos a break about his attitude and a chance to deliver on his promises.

In the end, I want DF to succeed, so might as well see if they make good on the promises.

At least until next month. 

 

 

very nice post. it seems like nothing can please the rabid people on here, they are the type of people that dont understand the idea of faith and cant believe in anything unless its right in front of them

Originally posted by xbellx777

very nice post. it seems like nothing can please the rabid people on here, they are the type of people that dont understand the idea of faith and cant believe in anything unless its right in front of them

That’s called reality. I am trying to help here. Because the backlash of crying is going to resound for at least 6 months.

Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

Originally posted by nileq

Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

Originally posted by imbant

Originally posted by LukePlumber

Originally posted by Ozmodan

Cracks me up when he calls the skeptics trolls.  They have let no one see the game uhm... reports of people who visited their studios.  beta, italian guys, Gianna from TheNoob etc, have not shown it at any shows Athens Digital Week or let anyone play it besides internal testers and several hundreds of beta testers again: and he wonders why people are a bit skeptical about the game's existence? after releasing over 20 minutes of gameplay footage, showing it off at the athens digital week, letting 2 sites make a preview and some external guys visit their studios and write articles about, after releasing over one hundred screenshotss... yes, he probably wonders...  He really can't be that naive can he?  was going to ask you the same question.

 

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Exactly.  But apparently the people with "wisdom" will read what you just wrote and completely ignore the fact that you are right, and instead mention how you clearly must be new to the genre.

Common sense always wins.

 

The only thing that will end the skepticism, is proof.

 

I don’t care how many behind-closed door showings they have given of the game, every single bit of it was sanitized.

 

 

 

now you are comming of as plain ignorant, just admit to that you where wrong.

 

For that I would have to be wrong, and you would have to be able to understand what i am saying, instead of assuming things, and flaming. Try reading.

 

Enjoy darkfall.

 

 

I did read, you should try to do that too. Examples where precented to you of all those things you listed as missing..

Enjoy Life

Originally posted by xbellx777

very nice post. it seems like nothing can please the rabid people on here, they are the type of people that dont understand the idea of faith and cant believe in anything unless its right in front of them

Heh, yeah, and the funny thing is when they do finally get something in front of them, they shit all over it as well. I guess you just can't please some people.

Originally posted by Ozmodan

Originally posted by imbant

Originally posted by Ozmodan

Cracks me up when he calls the skeptics trolls.  They have let no one see the game, have not shown it at any shows or let anyone play it besides internal testers and he wonders why people are a bit skeptical about the game's existence? 

 

Are you serious?

This is why the fans of the game get so frustrated with people like yourself.  You make these bold statements as facts when you are actually 100% wrong.

Hasn't shown it an any shows?

ADW - see the official forums or the DF section of this website for links

Hasn't let anyone else seen it besides the INTERNAL testers?

How about the guys from MMORPG.it who played it and posted a review.  How about all the non employees who signed up for beta and got in and have posted their thoughts?  Or Gianna from the noob comic?

 

I SUGGEST YOU READ THIS THREAD AND CATCH YOURSELF UP TO SPEED

Well you can continue denying reality and live in your fantasy world, but the rest of us are satisfied with the facts as I stated.  There has never been a major review of the game by any known journalist and even at the Athens show only certain screened people were allowed to play it.   That validates my comments in spades.

Tasos comes off very arrogant in his interview and that is about the worst thing you can do trying to get others to play your game.

I hope Adventurine does pull it off, but let's face it the success rate of small indie developers is probably in the single digits.  We could all use another success story like Eve.

Oh and on a 2nd note.  Give the state of AI and today's technology, it is not possible to simulate how a server will handle live accounts accessing it by using bot software.  About all you end up doing with such a test is to see how the server handles a host of message events, you won't be able to actually incur much of a processing load on the server that way.   

Right more dancing.

Sorry but keep it simple.

You said it had never been shown at a show/convention/etc.

But it has.  I gave you proof.  This last response proves it without you growing up and admitting you were wrong.

Thats is all.

Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

Originally posted by xbellx777

very nice post. it seems like nothing can please the rabid people on here, they are the type of people that dont understand the idea of faith and cant believe in anything unless its right in front of them

That’s called reality. I am trying to help here. Because the backlash of crying is going to resound for at least 6 months.

 

It's no wonder that you have 2000+ posts when you troll threads with a bunch of worthless one-liners like this.  Trust me, you are not "helping" anyone. 

On topic... Thank you, Stradden. Those were probably the best questions that one could have asked. The interview was a great read.

Originally posted by nileq

Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

Originally posted by nileq

Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

Originally posted by imbant

Originally posted by LukePlumber

Originally posted by Ozmodan

Cracks me up when he calls the skeptics trolls.  They have let no one see the game uhm... reports of people who visited their studios.  beta, italian guys, Gianna from TheNoob etc, have not shown it at any shows Athens Digital Week or let anyone play it besides internal testers and several hundreds of beta testers again: and he wonders why people are a bit skeptical about the game's existence? after releasing over 20 minutes of gameplay footage, showing it off at the athens digital week, letting 2 sites make a preview and some external guys visit their studios and write articles about, after releasing over one hundred screenshotss... yes, he probably wonders...  He really can't be that naive can he?  was going to ask you the same question.

 

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Exactly.  But apparently the people with "wisdom" will read what you just wrote and completely ignore the fact that you are right, and instead mention how you clearly must be new to the genre.

Common sense always wins.

 

The only thing that will end the skepticism, is proof.

 

I don’t care how many behind-closed door showings they have given of the game, every single bit of it was sanitized.

 

 

 

now you are comming of as plain ignorant, just admit to that you where wrong.

 

For that I would have to be wrong, and you would have to be able to understand what i am saying, instead of assuming things, and flaming. Try reading.

 

Enjoy darkfall.

 

 

 

I did read, you should try to do that too. Examples where precented to you of all those things you listed as missing..

 

Enjoy Life

Apparently you didn’t, because I didn’t say anything was missing.

Originally posted by Dippy11

It's no wonder that you have 2000+ posts when you troll threads with a bunch of worthless one-liners like this.  Trust me, you are not "helping" anyone. 

Hay now, my one liners are good. Take a look and see how well forum posters here really track a conversation. Why should I waste my time on more detailed postings (and i do), it wont matter anyway. Good example of it right here in this thread.

I have to post to the audience. 

Great interview...thanks!

 Decent read. Sadly I stopped reading once he used the word "troll". When developers start using words like this, it only shows how immature they can be. It boils down to name calling, which a developer should never do. Oh well though right, as he states, the game is ready for launch right now. I seriously can't wait for this dam thing to finally drop. It's going to be a field day, .....................

Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

Originally posted by imbant

Originally posted by LukePlumber

Originally posted by Ozmodan

Cracks me up when he calls the skeptics trolls.  They have let no one see the game uhm... reports of people who visited their studios.  beta, italian guys, Gianna from TheNoob etc, have not shown it at any shows Athens Digital Week or let anyone play it besides internal testers and several hundreds of beta testers again: and he wonders why people are a bit skeptical about the game's existence? after releasing over 20 minutes of gameplay footage, showing it off at the athens digital week, letting 2 sites make a preview and some external guys visit their studios and write articles about, after releasing over one hundred screenshotss... yes, he probably wonders...  He really can't be that naive can he?  was going to ask you the same question.

 

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Exactly.  But apparently the people with "wisdom" will read what you just wrote and completely ignore the fact that you are right, and instead mention how you clearly must be new to the genre.

Common sense always wins.

 

The only thing that will end the skepticism, is proof.

 

I don’t care how many behind-closed door showings they have given of the game, every single bit of it was sanitized.

 

 

Seems like you're forgetting the Athen's Digital Week which was open to the public - we have the video where (I believe) Kjetil is playing Darkfall life in front of a public audience.

Originally posted by mackdawg19

 Decent read. Sadly I stopped reading once he used the word "troll". When developers start using words like this, it only shows how immature they can be. It boils down to name calling, which a developer should never do. Oh well though right, as he states, the game is ready for launch right now. I seriously can't wait for this dam thing to finally drop. It's going to be a field day, .....................

Ah, others seeing my point. Taco will explode the moment people start playing, and release its not they game they had in there head. See hype can be good in the manner, of keeping expectations low. They have been playing to the player created hype for a long long time. Going to be some disappointed fans.

I have seen his kind before. I guess noone recalls last yers little epic flame war he created, and fuled?

Originally posted by kishe

Hes not really arrogant..more defensive...because yeah, the questions were aggressive.

 

and he said he doesnt care that theres much hate for Darkfall, because its true that people who troll and bash the game months before release is likely to buy it so they can troll & bash the game PAST release too...so people who hate & bash the game for months in fact are AS important to them as hardcore fanboys.

 

I think it was Donald Trump that said "There's no such thing as bad publicity"

 

 

Games that fail fastest are those that no one is interested to even talk about.

 

 

I don't think they were aggressive questions at all... They were perfectly reasonable questions that Tasos responded to in a reasonable way.

btw lol @ anyone suggesting that DF's marketing strategy is amateurish or bad....

Look at how fast this news annoucnement has exploded already within a few hours compared to annoucnements of other games in development.

Like it or not people...this game is HIGHLY discussed and is well known to pretty much everyone in the MMO community who visits sites like this or plays PVP games.

Originally posted by mackdawg19

 Decent read. Sadly I stopped reading once he used the word "troll". When developers start using words like this, it only shows how immature they can be. It boils down to name calling, which a developer should never do. Oh well though right, as he states, the game is ready for launch right now. I seriously can't wait for this dam thing to finally drop. It's going to be a field day, .....................

What do you think these so-called trolls have been doing for the past several years? Oh yeah thats right, being combative douches doing everything they can to belittle Tasos and the game. Honestly if you can't stand the usage of the word "troll" by another human being, then I'd advise against ever playing a game like Darkfall.  The questions posed in the interview were direct and confrontational, and I think Tasos handled them well. Its been proven time and time again that there is NOTHING that can be done to satisfy the naysayers. The game could be a smash hit with a million subscribers, and they'll still come on here with the "cool to hate" attitude and say it sucks, lol.

Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

Originally posted by xbellx777

very nice post. it seems like nothing can please the rabid people on here, they are the type of people that dont understand the idea of faith and cant believe in anything unless its right in front of them

That’s called reality. I am trying to help here. Because the backlash of crying is going to resound for at least 6 months.

 

so y do u fly? can u see youself landing safetly? no we cant look forward in time to see we put FAITH in the pilots that they will do their job. im doing the same thing with aventurine. if it sucks then oh well, but if its good ill play it. see where im going? its a videogame, only fifty dollars plus 15 a month, not too expensive, but u make such a big deal outta it

Originally posted by FSE-Camel

Originally posted by xbellx777

very nice post. it seems like nothing can please the rabid people on here, they are the type of people that dont understand the idea of faith and cant believe in anything unless its right in front of them

Heh, yeah, and the funny thing is when they do finally get something in front of them, they shit all over it as well. I guess you just can't please some people.

lol true