Originally posted by monoth

Originally posted by calibek

Then by your logic WotLK must be doing bad too cause it's on sale for $25, 35% off retail price and it's only been about 2 weeks...

Big difference... One is a brand new game (WAR) and the other is a 2nd Expansion for a game thats been out around 5 years...

Actually, that is still weird since WOTLK sold so much in such a short time, why did they lower the price on it? Or did they raise it the first week to earn more cash? Very strange.

Still the game is worth $10 easy, I waste that on crap most days anyways. Even if you just play it for a week it is still a good price.

And WAR is the 3rd biggest MMO game in X-fire statistic still, and while PvP games do have more % using X-fire it is still not bad. Not good either but the game is far from dead.

Originally posted by thekid1

Originally posted by Otakun

If you never played it of course you wouldn't know, so don't assume.

I try not to be considered a fanboi but it's hard when you like something and alls everyone does is bash it to hell for problems that are solvable it will just take a little time.

I don't care for potential, every game on this site has potential, that does not make them suck less.

I ain't believing the new patch is going to be a miracle patch but I already enjoy the game and I like the Knights and I want to play them. I would rather not hear bashing from people who never played it or only played it for the first 10 levels. I played WoW to the 60's and I enjoyed it then but I don't enjoy it now.

I enjoy Warhammer now, most people who don't have not had the same experiences as I have in the game and it makes me annoyed and upset that people bash it so much without doing what I have done to like the game. I have stopped trying to recruit people cause its pointless, people are too fickle in general to give new games a shot, they would rather go back to games they feel more comfortable with then actually try anything else.

But as a last note, if you let people on a forum decide what games you play then don't come to my games cause your not worth killing.

How else can I decide what mmorpg's are worth my time and money. Buy them all?
Off course I am going to rely on forums, and I pay especially note to the negative opinions.

 

Then you might as well never leave WoW, just sit on that game and sit there complaining once your 80 with nothing to do. Cause if your not willing to try a game yourself or even wait for a game to become good then you might as well quit playing MMOs if you don't want to play WoW.

Originally posted by Loke666

Originally posted by monoth

Originally posted by calibek

Then by your logic WotLK must be doing bad too cause it's on sale for $25, 35% off retail price and it's only been about 2 weeks...

Big difference... One is a brand new game (WAR) and the other is a 2nd Expansion for a game thats been out around 5 years...

 

Actually, that is still weird since WOTLK sold so much in such a short time, why did they lower the price on it? Or did they raise it the first week to earn more cash? Very strange.

Still the game is worth $10 easy, I waste that on crap most days anyways. Even if you just play it for a week it is still a good price.

And WAR is the 3rd biggest MMO game in X-fire statistic still, and while PvP games do have more % using X-fire it is still not bad. Not good either but the game is far from dead.

It's not that strange at all. Stores and especially online stores are constantly competing in price to sell more items. They make less profit because of the lower price but if they get 10 times more costumers..
I see the same  thing happening with the Xbox360, it already dead cheap (in Holland we get €40 back form Micro$oft) but stores still are lowering the price to sell even more units.

Originally posted by Otakun

Originally posted by thekid1

Originally posted by Otakun

If you never played it of course you wouldn't know, so don't assume.

I try not to be considered a fanboi but it's hard when you like something and alls everyone does is bash it to hell for problems that are solvable it will just take a little time.

I don't care for potential, every game on this site has potential, that does not make them suck less.

I ain't believing the new patch is going to be a miracle patch but I already enjoy the game and I like the Knights and I want to play them. I would rather not hear bashing from people who never played it or only played it for the first 10 levels. I played WoW to the 60's and I enjoyed it then but I don't enjoy it now.

I enjoy Warhammer now, most people who don't have not had the same experiences as I have in the game and it makes me annoyed and upset that people bash it so much without doing what I have done to like the game. I have stopped trying to recruit people cause its pointless, people are too fickle in general to give new games a shot, they would rather go back to games they feel more comfortable with then actually try anything else.

But as a last note, if you let people on a forum decide what games you play then don't come to my games cause your not worth killing.

How else can I decide what mmorpg's are worth my time and money. Buy them all?
Off course I am going to rely on forums, and I pay especially note to the negative opinions.

 

 

Then you might as well never leave WoW, just sit on that game and sit there complaining once your 80 with nothing to do. Cause if your not willing to try a game yourself or even wait for a game to become good then you might as well quit playing MMOs if you don't want to play WoW.

Probably very good advise. WOW is really good and no mmorpg comes even close to it. If you could make money with crafting in general, and there was no auction house but regional economy, (and player housing) I wouldn't look back instead of wasting my times on forums.
 

Originally posted by popinjay

I won't say Warhammer will die, but it appears the numbers are starting to point towards "niche game" for sure.

There is an increasingly smaller NEW sub rate which spells danger due to this being billed as a huge open PvP game. There is a small group of people (based on overall server numbers) that are at the 'end game'. They seem to be having battles around 200 v 200 they claim in posts. The rest in the lower and middle levels are going extremely slow through the content and half of them are logging in/out, so they are not replacing 'fresh' troops for those battles. Eventually, the top guys will get tired of killing the same old names with the same tactics.

As those people at higher level begin to quit due to boredom (fight over/over/over for weeks with no clear winners), lag issues for some, contribution system etc, where will the new people replacing them come from?

Fanbois are now blaming:

1.Wow players for ruining their game. This one is really funny. Not sure how they rationalize this one.

One of mine and many other biggest complaints was the addition of BG/Scenarios to WAR this was taken from WOW and i hated it when i played WOW. MJ also stated they were in WAR to appeal to the WOWbies if you will. WAR is alot like WOW in its easy mode style of play but in order for Mythic to attract the ex-wowbie they had to make it feel wowish therefore making those coming to play more at home. Guess what that in itself even drove the ex-wowbies away.

2.Other new subs as not playing the game "right", like the Mythic want them to. They want Mythic to put up yard sale banners saying "Open RvR today @ Altdorf from 8pm-10pm!" so people go there instead of fighting all over. They claim Mythic has not done ENOUGH sheepherding, while at the same time claiming Wow does TOO much of it.

3. LOTRO and WoTLK expansions for stealing people who are already subbed to WAR. This one is the funniest cause if WAR is a better game, why would those subbed WAR folks go play Moria or Lich King? Because people will play what they feel is more fun, naturally. This is no secret.

WOW and WOTLK are both PVE games and since WAR sucks at PVE its only natural for those more inclined not to PVP to go back. 

They point to Christmas as the turning point for WAR. I think its more like 2009. If they don't have their problems worked out by the time the new MMOs release, it will spell trouble solidifying WAR's place in Niche history. It won't die, it'll just linger there with the lore fans.

I like how people call WAR a niche market. Its basically the same game as WOW minus decent PVE, cool looking items and several million people. This is war failed people did NOT want another WOW clone.

If people are leaving WAR for expansions to older games now, what do you think will happen when brand NEW content is released?

They really need to inject some sanity into the fingerpointing and direct this to Mythic. It's their baby so they deserve the blame. What ever happened to accountability?

 

Your right in the fact that its Mythics failure. They thought by taking a proven PVE based game model and implementing it into theres that it would be a success.  Now had WOW implemented RVR like DAOC had well then nothing could ever touch it. I really don't know why they haven't done that either. For what its worth i think the numbers have dropped off so much that EA/Mythic has told the sellers to drop the prices. I've never seen a recently released game basically be given away. I don't see why they are doing it considering that those of us who paid full price have been quoted over and over telling people basically not to waste your money. I've never in my MMO career seen so many negative comments from a game so shortly after its release but i know why there is.

Originally posted by xxreaper008

http://www.amazon.com/Warhammer-Online-Age-Reckoning-Pc/dp/B000TD3IA2?tag=slickdeals

 

Thought I should share, just picked it up. If you spend more then 25$ you get free shipping.

The unfortunate thing for WAR and me trying it is I'm just too "fantasied" out right now, I'm planning to try SWTOR,STO,CO,Darkfall, and DCO in that order Darkfall sneaking in only because it looks like it could possibly turn into a decent sandbox game with a wide range of things to do if they can pull off everything they are trying but otherwise I just can't do anymore elves,dwarves,ale,dungeons. The genre has been played through for me and from what I know of WARs feature set there is nothing in it for my own tastes that get me excited to even try it one way or another.

Originally posted by thekid1

I won't even try a free trial if one was available after reading these forums for the last few weeks.

 

if you base what game you're gonna try by the amount of negativity on mmorpg.con game boards then you'll never play a game. every games forum on here is filled with its share of haters.

I do admit that this is one of the really hyped games of 2008, but how a disappointment it has been.  Tier one and two were great during launch, but once u got towards t3 u hit a leveling block. Scenarios started getting boring and the ORVR was down right sad. The open rvr after about 2 hours was very very boring. I think basing a game mostly for pvp isnt the way to go. Thats why i think darkfall will also be a disappointment, but who knows we will see right?