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  Ihmotepp

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11/29/08 9:47:34 AM#1

Now there's a new forum for Mortal Online.
It's beginning to pick up steam as the new game to hope for.
If DF fails to release in the near future, MO may replace Darkfall in the fanboi vs troll wars.
Mortal Online may also replace Darkfall as the "perfect game that doesn't exist".
Right now we still see this. I want a great sandbox game. Response: Wait for DF it will be the bestest ever.
I want a good PvP game. Response: Wait for DF it will be the bestest PvP game ever. And so on.
But soon, this refrain could be replaced with Wait for Mortal Online...
I'm just saying.
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  Kien

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11/29/08 10:01:42 AM#2

Wow! Until I read your message I didn't realize Mortal Online had its own forum here at MMORPG.COM

To answer your question, if by the end of the year Aventurine fails to prove it has a product, then yes I believe we'll see a mass exodus to Mortal Online. However, I don't believe Mortal Online will become the next "perfect game that doesn't exist". We won't see fanboi vs. realists flame wars like we see on this forum. At least, not for a few years.

  Consensus

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R.I.P Darkfall

11/29/08 10:04:04 AM#3
  1. darkfall comes out
  2. darkfall doesn't meet expectations of a decade of hype and dies
  3. people move onto mortal online forums
  4. mortal online gets delayed for many years like darkfall
  5. mortal online comes out
  6. mortal online doesn't meet expectations of a decade of hype and dies
  7. people move onto darkfall 2 forums....

by step 13 the UO veteran crowd has all died of old age.

  TheHoweller

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Grinding is the worst idea ever integrated into a game...

I would much rather have fun.

11/29/08 10:08:20 AM#4

Yeah...I laughed when the page loaded......Nothing like pixelated tits shoved into your face.

 

On the issue, I don't really know.  I'd have to guess that Mortal will easily accumulate the same, variety of followers.  They both lie in that niche territory of fantasy, full-loot PvP...So yeah, I believe the same fanatics will show up, given that the devs are as secretive as Tasos n' Co.

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  Ihmotepp

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11/29/08 11:16:38 AM#5
Originally posted by Kien

Wow! Until I read your message I didn't realize Mortal Online had its own forum here at MMORPG.COM

To answer your question, if by the end of the year Aventurine fails to prove it has a product, then yes I believe we'll see a mass exodus to Mortal Online. However, I don't believe Mortal Online will become the next "perfect game that doesn't exist". We won't see fanboi vs. realists flame wars like we see on this forum. At least, not for a few years.

 

That's funny, because it's already started.

"The game only has one screenshot, i'ts vaporware..."

"The developers are making an original game that is not like WoW. You just don't understand this and you are a troll."

Already posted in the MO forums.

 

  Ihmotepp

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11/29/08 11:19:51 AM#6
Originally posted by Consensus
  1. darkfall comes out
  2. darkfall doesn't meet expectations of a decade of hype and dies
  3. people move onto mortal online forums
  4. mortal online gets delayed for many years like darkfall
  5. mortal online comes out
  6. mortal online doesn't meet expectations of a decade of hype and dies
  7. people move onto darkfall 2 forums....

by step 13 the UO veteran crowd has all died of old age.

 

I peed myself laughing.

  Mitara

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Joined: 3/22/07
Posts: 308

11/29/08 1:48:17 PM#7

Its like the nordic countries are taking over the MMO world...

Anarchy Online - Norway

Secret World - Norway

Age of Conan - Norway

Entropia - Swedish

Darkfall - Norway (before they moved to greece, which is a warmer place...)

EVE - Iceland

Mortal Online - Swedish

and a few others that havent been made public yet

  Razephon

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Joined: 6/22/05
Posts: 533

11/29/08 3:45:55 PM#8
Originally posted by Mitara

Its like the nordic countries are taking over the MMO world...

Anarchy Online - Norway

Secret World - Norway

Age of Conan - Norway

Entropia - Swedish

Darkfall - Norway (before they moved to greece, which is a warmer place...)

EVE - Iceland

Mortal Online - Swedish

and a few others that havent been made public yet


 

And they're bringing a big bag of FAIL with them each time. ;) (its a joke. treat it as so)

Back on topic, assuming Darkfall releases...I think Mortal Online will realise the potential Darkfall couldnt with a more powerful engine and what seem to be slightly more open minded developers. Anyways Mortal Online is faaaaaaar away from any sort of realisation. No need to be concerned about it yet.

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  doobster

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Joined: 10/28/03
Posts: 740

11/29/08 8:13:53 PM#9
Originally posted by Razephon
Originally posted by Mitara

Its like the nordic countries are taking over the MMO world...

Anarchy Online - Norway

Secret World - Norway

Age of Conan - Norway

Entropia - Swedish

Darkfall - Norway (before they moved to greece, which is a warmer place...)

EVE - Iceland

Mortal Online - Swedish

and a few others that havent been made public yet


 

And they're bringing a big bag of FAIL with them each time. ;) (its a joke. treat it as so)

Back on topic, assuming Darkfall releases...I think Mortal Online will realise the potential Darkfall couldnt with a more powerful engine and what seem to be slightly more open minded developers. Anyways Mortal Online is faaaaaaar away from any sort of realisation. No need to be concerned about it yet.


 

This is a recipe for a bland game after dev's cave into WoW's vanilla crowd.

  Hashbrick

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Joined: 4/12/05
Posts: 1240

Only jackasses label their PC specs in their sig.

11/29/08 8:28:06 PM#10

Professionalism (Star Vault) versus Amateurism (Aventurine).

No comparison.

Mortal Online licensed the Unreal Engine, the team has a big budget and Epic doesn't just let anyone license the engine. You must meet a lot of expectations as Epic does not want their engine to look like crap from some amateurs.


Originally posted by imbant

Did we say we were trying to do good for the game? the game is in the hands of aventurine, no one else...

  Blodpls

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Joined: 7/29/08
Posts: 1466

11/29/08 9:56:13 PM#11
Originally posted by Hashbrick

Professionalism (Star Vault) versus Amateurism (Aventurine).

No comparison.

Mortal Online licensed the Unreal Engine, the team has a big budget and Epic doesn't just let anyone license the engine. You must meet a lot of expectations as Epic does not want their engine to look like crap from some amateurs.

 

I don't believe they restrict the use of their engine, where did you get that from?  I'm sure anyone who can afford a licence can use it and some real stinkers have been made using the unreal engine.  Some good games have been made with Unreal it but it's mostly crap.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Unreal_Engine_games

Creating your own custom engine that does exactly what you want it to do must be more professional than using somebody else's.  I predict that they will severely regret not writing their own.

 

  stayontarget

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11/29/08 10:06:07 PM#12
Originally posted by Blodpls
Originally posted by Hashbrick

Professionalism (Star Vault) versus Amateurism (Aventurine).

No comparison.

Mortal Online licensed the Unreal Engine, the team has a big budget and Epic doesn't just let anyone license the engine. You must meet a lot of expectations as Epic does not want their engine to look like crap from some amateurs.

 

I don't believe they restrict the use of their engine, where did you get that from?  I'm sure anyone who can afford a licence can use it and some real stinkers have been made using the unreal engine.  Some good games have been made with Unreal it but it's mostly crap.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Unreal_Engine_games

Creating your own custom engine that does exactly what you want it to do must be more professional than using somebody else's.  I predict that they will severely regret not writing their own.

 

Creating your own in house game engine is a time sink. You have got to weigh the pro's and con's of both. Time will tell if  Aventurine made the right choice.

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  Blodpls

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Joined: 7/29/08
Posts: 1466

11/29/08 10:08:07 PM#13
Originally posted by stayontarget 

Creating your own in house game engine is a time sink. You have got to weigh the pro's and con's of both. Time will tell if  Aventurine made the right choice.

 

Yes huge timesink but much greater flexibility, they are going to have make game fit the engine rather than the engine fit the game.

  RogueSeven

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Joined: 10/21/06
Posts: 328

11/29/08 10:17:49 PM#14

does mortal online look like it would be a good game? yeah, but cant really tell much atm. probably not vaporware but i doubt they will release next year...

until then we'll have darkfall, same basic game, not as good graphics, but i would rather have crappy graphics and a fun game then graphics that give me a seizure every time i decide to swing my sword with all the bloom and glowy crap people are putting into games and calling them "good" or "realistic"...im sorry but the last time i went outside of my super secret underground gaming machine bunker nothing was glowing like the sun...except for the sun of course.

now all the people that are saying "no i wont play darkfall now because mortal online is coming out next summer"...really? so you wait 7 years for a game to be released and when the same basic game that is shinier is (apparently) going to be released in over 6 months from now you arent going to play darkfall simply because the graphics "suck" when i find they are quite good and i'd rather have some practice in the FFA/Full Loot environment for 2 or so years before mortal is actually released


sorry, just a little pissed off that people want shinier graphics when they dont even know what the gameplay is going to be like (for sure). if mortal delivers what is promised it might actually be a good game, but until we are a good way into closed beta and near open beta for it i wouldn't trust their (summer 2009) release date for a penny...even though my pretty US penny is slowly but surely depreciating in value.

  stayontarget

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Girlfriends come and go but Epic battles are Soulbound

11/29/08 10:22:37 PM#15
Originally posted by Blodpls
Originally posted by stayontarget 

Creating your own in house game engine is a time sink. You have got to weigh the pro's and con's of both. Time will tell if  Aventurine made the right choice.

 

Yes huge timesink but much greater flexibility, they are going to have make game fit the engine rather than the engine fit the game.

You would think but you are just guessing here. You won't know until the game launches. There are engines out there that suk and are not very flexible.

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  stayontarget

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11/29/08 10:28:14 PM#16
Originally posted by RogueSeven

does mortal online look like it would be a good game? yeah, but cant really tell much atm. probably not vaporware but i doubt they will release next year...

until then we'll have darkfall, same basic game, not as good graphics, but i would rather have crappy graphics and a fun game then graphics that give me a seizure every time i decide to swing my sword with all the bloom and glowy crap people are putting into games and calling them "good" or "realistic"...im sorry but the last time i went outside of my super secret underground gaming machine bunker nothing was glowing like the sun...except for the sun of course.

now all the people that are saying "no i wont play darkfall now because mortal online is coming out next summer"...really? so you wait 7 years for a game to be released and when the same basic game that is shinier is (apparently) going to be released in over 6 months from now you arent going to play darkfall simply because the graphics "suck" when i find they are quite good and i'd rather have some practice in the FFA/Full Loot environment for 2 or so years before mortal is actually released


sorry, just a little pissed off that people want shinier graphics when they dont even know what the gameplay is going to be like (for sure). if mortal delivers what is promised it might actually be a good game, but until we are a good way into closed beta and near open beta for it i wouldn't trust their (summer 2009) release date for a penny...even though my pretty US penny is slowly but surely depreciating in value.

And why do you care what people play. Does that effect you or the game you are following ? I say NO it does not, so let it go. The game will stand or fall on its own. If its good people will play it.

BTW: I demand and expect good game play and good graphics.  Why settle for less.

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  Briansho

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11/29/08 10:44:25 PM#17

I have a funny feeling Darkfall will end up like Dark and LIght in the end...

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  TheHoweller

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Posts: 433

Grinding is the worst idea ever integrated into a game...

I would much rather have fun.

11/30/08 12:58:20 AM#18
Originally posted by Briansho

I have a funny feeling Darkfall will end up like Dark and LIght in the end...

 

I'll add my sad-face to yours....

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  Seggallion

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11/30/08 3:20:37 AM#19

It wont matter if Darkfall fails for me, as long I've can play another sandbox. But hey, we've got one, EVE. I love sci-fi but EVE is a litle to much flying around for me. But I tend to fall back to it now and then.

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  HolaHola

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11/30/08 5:57:36 AM#20

Well lets just hope Darkfall don't fail?

But i will keep an eye out for MO, they seem to be very influced by UO, pre trammel that is. And thats a very good thing.

But i still have very high hopes for DF, but only time will tell how its gonna end up i guess

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