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  Daffid011

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Joined: 1/03/04
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11/25/08 10:13:34 AM#41
Originally posted by Sharajat

Hah, my guild downed Arthas.  It took us one wipe, but then he was down.  Frostmorne didn't drop, maybe next week.

 

What, you say he's not in the game?  Sorry, we're just that good.

 

Proof: how easy the content is.

  Sharajat

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Joined: 12/14/07
Posts: 939

11/25/08 10:59:53 AM#42
Originally posted by Daffid011
Originally posted by Sharajat

Hah, my guild downed Arthas.  It took us one wipe, but then he was down.  Frostmorne didn't drop, maybe next week.

 

What, you say he's not in the game?  Sorry, we're just that good.

 

Proof: how easy the content is.

I know!  You think blizzard would have made it a challenge.  Honestly, every boss in Arthas' dungeon just lay down and gave us epics.

And you would not believe how OP the epics make us in PvP.  I mean I have no skillz whatsoever, but man, with those epics, I pwned.  We had tenacity in wintergrasp, so I just flew down on my epic proto-drake, dismounted over their offensive, and popped holy nova and levitate in midair.  It took out like 30 hordies, and procced blackout on most of the rest.  Thanks to tenacity, I easily took them all down with shadow word: death spam.  It was like "LOLZ, LRN2EPIX NOOBS"  

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  User Deleted
11/25/08 6:56:15 PM#43
Originally posted by Greyhooff

My warrior on Kazzak is 78 and I'm also playing a guildie's rogue (that's how I'm raiding Naxx 25 and Sart 25) (Also, the new mutilate is easymode, but somehow less satisfying, combat is very lackluster atm without some boost to combat potency)

WotLK is a weak PVE game, nothing like the old WoW / TBC raiding.

Warhammer's PVE is entertaining me far more - the Lost Vale is around twice the size of the entirety of Naxx 25, and it's far prettier and more challenging :)

"Playing" huh?

So it sucks so bad but you still play...that makes total sense...NOT.

The reason WOW now is nothing like the old WOW/BC raiding is because 40 man raids almost destroyed the game. I was there and I saw the end-game as envisioned at launch. 40 man everything....you had to have massive amounts of population to do anything at the end game. It sucked and Blizzard realized this and soon went to 20 man raids and then 10 and 25 man raids (and other things like reset timers and such).

See for game that base their entire end-game on massive population, things start going downhill when the population leaves for one reason or another. Maybe people grow bored, wanna try a new game, sick of bugs, tired of standing around looking for people to play with etc.....whatever their reason, people leave a game. When the entire endgame is based on population and it leaves, it begins a progressive effect where people leave because people are leaving and it is hard to recover from this.

Oh wait....you play WAR so I guess you are witnessing what I am describing then. And don't tell me it isn't happening because I play with two guilds on two huge servers (Volkmar and REM) and see it happening with my own eyes. Both guilds have populations that were one time over 200 now not even 10% of that. Mythic, like Funcom, based their entire endgame on population and keeping a large, active population around to keep the endgame prosperous. It didn't happen and as a result, it now only magnifies the issues with the game.

WOW may not be perfect but at least I can do what I want and when I want with the people that I like to group with. Mythic has some serious issues to deal with and I believe they will - the question is will it be to little too late?.....a question Blizzard doesn't even have to consider.

  Aeroangel

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Joined: 11/10/08
Posts: 458

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11/25/08 7:04:58 PM#44
Originally posted by Sharajat

Hah, my guild downed Arthas.  It took us one wipe, but then he was down.  Frostmorne didn't drop, maybe next week.

 

What, you say he's not in the game?  Sorry, we're just that good.

 

Since when could you fight arthas? I miss an update or something

Or are you playing on private servers? (lol)

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  Aeroangel

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In the end it won't matter how many breaths you took, but how many moments took your breath away.

11/25/08 7:07:26 PM#45
Originally posted by Sharajat
Originally posted by Daffid011
Originally posted by Sharajat

Hah, my guild downed Arthas.  It took us one wipe, but then he was down.  Frostmorne didn't drop, maybe next week.

 

What, you say he's not in the game?  Sorry, we're just that good.

 

Proof: how easy the content is.

I know!  You think blizzard would have made it a challenge.  Honestly, every boss in Arthas' dungeon just lay down and gave us epics.

And you would not believe how OP the epics make us in PvP.  I mean I have no skillz whatsoever, but man, with those epics, I pwned.  We had tenacity in wintergrasp, so I just flew down on my epic proto-drake, dismounted over their offensive, and popped holy nova and levitate in midair.  It took out like 30 hordies, and procced blackout on most of the rest.  Thanks to tenacity, I easily took them all down with shadow word: death spam.  It was like "LOLZ, LRN2EPIX NOOBS"  

 

More /facepalm

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  Furyus

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Joined: 12/15/02
Posts: 15

11/25/08 7:18:08 PM#46

I don't really have anything to say. 

I just wanted to comment on your hardcore member status after 15 days here and I'm only an apprentice after 6 years! 

  Gregtheexcon

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Joined: 5/11/06
Posts: 207

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11/25/08 8:24:54 PM#47
Originally posted by Greyhooff

A video to show what good, challenging PVE should be like, instead of the easymode faceroll that WoW PVE has become:

http://www.warhammermovies.com/movieview.php?id=1389

Lost Vale is the tier 3 instance that drops the epic Darkpromise tier 3 set, there are harder instances and city raid instances (not the early raid introduction bastion stair raid which anyone can do at 40) to be unlocked by conquering the other faction's areas in the PVP campaign. But it's already harder than anything in WOTLK :)

A couple of notes about the video (which is a few weeks old):

- Kiting the small spiders on spider boss doesn't work any more

- The hero add on lizard boss gives better loot from main boss if killed before killing main boss

- Some of the boss abilities were changed to make the fight harder (usually) or more interesting/different (less often)

- Shamans and archmages can no longer instant ress in combat (which they do constantly in this video)

I play WAR, and I do not believe this. I may have quit WoW but I don't the PVE went down hill since. 

To me WoW is the king of instances. Hands down, but as far as PVE combat. All games are pretty much the same, no the roll you play and tank and spank. 

But no, WAR does not have better PVE, similiar maybe, but not better 

Enjoy : )

  zappah

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Joined: 10/29/06
Posts: 2

11/25/08 8:35:58 PM#48

OP is playing you, here is a link to the wow armory.

http://kr.wowarmory.com/search.xml?searchQuery=Kazzak&searchType=all

Only 1 Kazzak and it is a level 22 Shaman. If people like WOW pve then let them

have at it without lying to them to bring them to your game.

  Greyhooff

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Joined: 10/08/08
Posts: 365

 
11/26/08 12:38:08 AM#49
Originally posted by zappah

OP is playing you, here is a link to the wow armory.

http://kr.wowarmory.com/search.xml?searchQuery=Kazzak&searchType=all

Only 1 Kazzak and it is a level 22 Shaman. If people like WOW pve then let them

have at it without lying to them to bring them to your game.

 

Kazzak is the server name :)

  el_muerte

Novice Member

Joined: 10/15/06
Posts: 194

11/26/08 1:41:22 AM#50
Originally posted by Greyhooff
Originally posted by zappah

OP is playing you, here is a link to the wow armory.

http://kr.wowarmory.com/search.xml?searchQuery=Kazzak&searchType=all

Only 1 Kazzak and it is a level 22 Shaman. If people like WOW pve then let them

have at it without lying to them to bring them to your game.

 

Kazzak is the server name :)

 

As I've posted already, OP has no credibility left.  Maybe if he'd responded within a reasonable time to the first post asking his toon and guild names he would... but now it's been long enough there's probably a good number of toons that fit his description, all he has to do is find one.  I for one do not believe a word he says.

  User Deleted
11/26/08 1:38:54 PM#51
Originally posted by el_muerte
Originally posted by Greyhooff
Originally posted by zappah

OP is playing you, here is a link to the wow armory.

http://kr.wowarmory.com/search.xml?searchQuery=Kazzak&searchType=all

Only 1 Kazzak and it is a level 22 Shaman. If people like WOW pve then let them

have at it without lying to them to bring them to your game.

 

Kazzak is the server name :)

 

As I've posted already, OP has no credibility left.  Maybe if he'd responded within a reasonable time to the first post asking his toon and guild names he would... but now it's been long enough there's probably a good number of toons that fit his description, all he has to do is find one.  I for one do not believe a word he says.

 

Heck, I don't care about server and toon name and all of that. For me, his credibility is shot because about 6-7 days ago he first posted that he was bored with the game and since has posted MANY times about every nad thing with WOW in his opinion.
 

So he is SO bored and hates the game SO much that he trolls here all the time. However, he fails to answer the most important question of all:

WHY THE HELL IS HE STILL PLAYING WOW?

Seriously, if I hated the game to the extent that I posted in forums as much as he does and was bored with the game, I would be playing for 6-7 additional days like he says he does. Trust me, the minute I grew bored with WAR, I quit....not days later.

So Greyhooff, why are you still playing WOW if it sucks so bad and you are so bored?

  Swiftblade13

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11/26/08 8:06:57 PM#52

I've decided its better not to grace this rediculous thread with a reply.

 

 

 

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  Battlekruse

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11/28/08 6:58:17 PM#53

Blizzard dont want free world pvp like as ppl are describing. It is not hard to implement: Less guards, more honour for kills outside BGs, no flying mounts, close faction towns. They could easily do it, but there are far more carebears (even on pvp servers) than diehard world pvpers.


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  Greyhooff

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Joined: 10/08/08
Posts: 365

 
11/29/08 4:19:41 AM#54
Originally posted by Battlekruse

Blizzard dont want free world pvp like as ppl are describing. It is not hard to implement: Less guards, more honour for kills outside BGs, no flying mounts, close faction towns. They could easily do it, but there are far more carebears (even on pvp servers) than diehard world pvpers.

 

Blizzard servers can't really handle massive world PVP like what Warhammer has

With the 400-500 people fights we have on Warhammer, WoW servers would just crash as they weren't designed to support that kind of action - that's why blizzard does the carebear guards and discourages world pvp as much as it does

Hell, even in our old Tarren Mill vs Southshore fights we'd crash the server with under 80 on each side

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