Originally posted by templarga

Originally posted by Greyhooff

What a perfect illustration above

Anyone who comes in to this forum to explain their negative opinion of WoW is instantly bullied and called a troll and told to GTFO by the resident internet tough kids

Guess that says it all about the wow community :)

Kid huh?

30, college professor,  and I play WOW with my fiance who I will marry in a few weeks. I play in a guild where the average age of the 100+ members is probably 35 or older.

So I am a kid huh?

Tell ya what I think is childish - someone who obviously hates a game, comes to these forums and DAILY bashes this game but continues to play for a good 10 days since he first made a thread saying he was bored with the game. In the meantime, people ask this person why he continues to play a game he hates and he ignores their question.

This same person then goes on to insult the community.

Now, again, back to the original question that the person fails to answer:

Why are you continuing to play WOW if you are bored and hate the game?

And until you answer that question, you are a troll by definition: you repeatedly post negatively about a game that you obviously hate and have said for around 10 days that you are bored with; yet, you still post about how WOW and its community sucks.

So yes you are a troll and my recommendation is to go to the forums of the game you like (WAR) and post positive posts there. I do not play WAR and you do not see me going to the forums daily and creating threads about how it sucks. If you do something like that then it is immature and childish. So maybe the next time you call someone a kid, maybe you should take a long, hard look at your own posts and figure out who the truly immature poster is.

Well siad post Templarga.

 It took Greyhoof buying the original and both expansions and clearing all or most of the content of all three to realize the game is boring and skilless. Sounds to me like you played the game, enjoyed it, burnt up all the content and then after being done with the game decided to bash it for no reason other than to try and promote how awesome War is.

Originally posted by Greyhooff

Back in Warhammer having a blast :)

But still posting in the WoW forums?  I don't know, you sound bored to me.

Originally posted by Lazarus71

 It took Greyhoof buying the original and both expansions and clearing all or most of the content of all three to realize the game is boring and skilless. Sounds to me like you played the game, enjoyed it, burnt up all the content and then after being done with the game decided to bash it for no reason other than to try and promote how awesome War is.

 

 

I sort of agree with you there, but it wasn't time wasted, after all WoW is still the 2nd best MMO out there :)

Originally posted by Greyhooff

Originally posted by Lazarus71

 It took Greyhoof buying the original and both expansions and clearing all or most of the content of all three to realize the game is boring and skilless. Sounds to me like you played the game, enjoyed it, burnt up all the content and then after being done with the game decided to bash it for no reason other than to try and promote how awesome War is.

   

I sort of agree with you there, but it wasn't time wasted, after all WoW is still the 2nd best MMO out there :)

'You' as in your imaginary rogue friend right? 

Originally posted by Greyhooff

Originally posted by Lazarus71

 It took Greyhoof buying the original and both expansions and clearing all or most of the content of all three to realize the game is boring and skilless. Sounds to me like you played the game, enjoyed it, burnt up all the content and then after being done with the game decided to bash it for no reason other than to try and promote how awesome War is.

 

 

 

I sort of agree with you there, but it wasn't time wasted, after all WoW is still the 2nd best MMO out there :)

lol
 

You enjoyed WoW now you enjoy War more. There, now the whole argument is over hehe.

Originally posted by timmyjames

just an idea...

 

start new mmo

have lots and lots of servers to make for a smooth opening and spread out subscriptions (and factions)

wait for free month subs to quit

now, you have your basic starting stable subscribers, and you know how many of each faction will be on each servers...so

 

now you can merge servers to help balance the factions safely

Except for the fact that Mark Jacobs himself said it's not a good sign....
 

"According to Jacobs, another way to measure success is to look at the number of servers a game has added in a six-month period. “The corollary to that is if you’ve seen a game consolidate servers, you know it’s in deep, deep trouble — that’s not a healthy sign for an MMO,” he said, citing Sony’s January-released “Pirates of the Burning Sea” as a recent example. “It will be the same for ‘Warhammer.’ Look at us six months out. Look at us six weeks out. If we’re not adding servers, we’re not doing well.”

http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2008/08/29/ea-mythic-activision-world-of-warcraft-estimate-is-overblown/

I must admit I've been getting progressively bored with WoW, Just can't seem to get much fun out of it anymore - both before and after trying WotLK. I will however keep playing till my sub expires in Feb, if only to level all 3 of my chars to 80.

Originally posted by Nytewolf2k7

I must admit I've been getting progressively bored with WoW, Just can't seem to get much fun out of it anymore - both before and after trying WotLK. I will however keep playing till my sub expires in Feb, if only to level all 3 of my chars to 80.

Hmm, weird!

Originally posted by Pappy13

Originally posted by timmyjames

just an idea...

 

start new mmo

have lots and lots of servers to make for a smooth opening and spread out subscriptions (and factions)

wait for free month subs to quit

now, you have your basic starting stable subscribers, and you know how many of each faction will be on each servers...so

 

now you can merge servers to help balance the factions safely

Except for the fact that Mark Jacobs himself said it's not a good sign....
 

"According to Jacobs, another way to measure success is to look at the number of servers a game has added in a six-month period. “The corollary to that is if you’ve seen a game consolidate servers, you know it’s in deep, deep trouble — that’s not a healthy sign for an MMO,” he said, citing Sony’s January-released “Pirates of the Burning Sea” as a recent example. “It will be the same for ‘Warhammer.’ Look at us six months out. Look at us six weeks out. If we’re not adding servers, we’re not doing well.”

http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2008/08/29/ea-mythic-activision-world-of-warcraft-estimate-is-overblown/

I love that quote.

For the record.  Warhammer has gone from 65 servers the first week down to 30 servers now.  Not only were they not 'adding' servers at the 6 week point, they were already making announcements about the server merges.

Meanwhile, in the 4 weeks since Wrath has been launched, Blizzard has added 26 new servers (that is for a game that is 4 years old).

Originally posted by SonofSeth

Originally posted by Nytewolf2k7

I must admit I've been getting progressively bored with WoW, Just can't seem to get much fun out of it anymore - both before and after trying WotLK. I will however keep playing till my sub expires in Feb, if only to level all 3 of my chars to 80.

 

Hmm, weird!

Not really, I'm paying $60AUD, may as well make it count...

Originally posted by Azrile

 in the 4 weeks since Wrath has been launched, Blizzard has added 26 new servers (that is for a game that is 4 years old).

I dont disbelieve you but I've only heard about 1 new PVE server, Grizzly Hills

if Blizzard added more, that's good to hear

Originally posted by Nytewolf2k7

I must admit I've been getting progressively bored with WoW, Just can't seem to get much fun out of it anymore - both before and after trying WotLK. I will however keep playing till my sub expires in Feb, if only to level all 3 of my chars to 80.

Why keep playing something that bores you, even if you have a month or two left on your subscription?

You're either addicted, not as bored as you think, or enjoy paying for an expensive chat server.

Originally posted by Thradar

Originally posted by Nytewolf2k7

I must admit I've been getting progressively bored with WoW, Just can't seem to get much fun out of it anymore - both before and after trying WotLK. I will however keep playing till my sub expires in Feb, if only to level all 3 of my chars to 80.

Why keep playing something that bores you, even if you have a month or two left on your subscription?

You're either addicted, not as bored as you think, or enjoy paying for an expensive chat server.

He just wants attention.

Go to the bathroom kid and come back within half an hour. Azeroth awaits you. Gear has to be assembled and december 17th is but 5 days away.

Don't post a mood on the internet.

Originally posted by Greyhooff

So I took the advice of people on here, bought the xpac and played it, levelling my warrior to 73.

I have to say, I'm already bored - it's the same thing as I did in TBC and quite frankly the graphics are terrible, blocky and the armors look awful (it doesn't help that I'm a human and the human models are blocky and ugly)

The quests are the same old stuff, and although there's some cutscene bits, it's the same gather xp by doing pointless stuff that I've seen before. There's no decent PVP, and I miss the tactics and immediate PVP from Warhammer, where I levelled by doing a rotation of scenarios while questing and doing PQ stages.

I'll continue to 80 and farm Naxx 25man, Malygos and Sart with my old guild for a bit. They've already killed every boss in the game and I'll just pick up the epics when I get there, but for now I find the expansion to be a boring, easy and soulless cash-cow.

Hello again Mr. "i-hate-wow-becuz-my-warhammer-fail", can u show us your 8/8 t6 toon, lol? As i saide WOW pvp requires more skill than WAR. Check it our in Arena.

Originally posted by Jimmy562

Originally posted by Daffid011

Originally posted by jblah 

How did it fail again at being better than WOW? oh yeah the only thing WOW players can say"it has 11 million subs" unless ofcourse you would like to elaborate more on how WOW is better?

War did not have all conent cleared in 3 days from release ( yes achievments may not be all done but they are just a cheap tome of knowledge anyway with no reason other than bragging rights)

It is not still balancing classes after 4+ years, They created new ideas and did not steal all their ideas from previous games.  Server maintenence problems still after 4+ years with the same problems?

So 11 million subs..... ok got WAR there, millions of people followed Hitler did not make them right or better than anyone else so please tell me how WOW is better than WAR?

 

11 Million subscriptions is a result of people enjoying a game and word of mouth being positive about the gameplay.  Ask most people who play/played WoW and they say it is a fun game.

Selling 1.2 million box copies and having to merge half of your servers in 2 months, because you can't retain people is a result of boring unfinished game play.  Warhammer didn't have content cleared shortly after release, because no one tested it.  The end game system is broken and doesn't function properly.  As someone else said the design is pants on head retarded.  A game that highlights large scale open world PvP requires people to hide in instances and grind PvE content.... pants on head retarded is accurate.  Even the crazy fans of the games before release are gone.  You don't see many of them talking about how awesome Warhammer is going to be anymore do you?  Nope, what you hear now is "patch 1.1 should fix things and hopefully get the game back in order, then people will come back".

 

Also, you invoked Hitler on the interweb, you lose.

 

everyone leaving warhammer is actually a result of the game being very buggy in the first month so they left for WoW which has been out for ages and has very little problems. So the people couldn't be arsed to wait and see if warhammer would be better.

I believe WoW when it was released was utter crap and was almost unplayable so WAR was going in the right direction its just that no one wanted to be patient.

 

Who care about what happened 3-4 years ago, atm there are many mmo out there which mostly cost u same price, $15. Just pick up one or two that worth your money. Why have to care about history?

Originally posted by maritpra

Originally posted by Greyhooff

So I took the advice of people on here, bought the xpac and played it, levelling my warrior to 73.

I have to say, I'm already bored - it's the same thing as I did in TBC and quite frankly the graphics are terrible, blocky and the armors look awful (it doesn't help that I'm a human and the human models are blocky and ugly)

The quests are the same old stuff, and although there's some cutscene bits, it's the same gather xp by doing pointless stuff that I've seen before. There's no decent PVP, and I miss the tactics and immediate PVP from Warhammer, where I levelled by doing a rotation of scenarios while questing and doing PQ stages.

I'll continue to 80 and farm Naxx 25man, Malygos and Sart with my old guild for a bit. They've already killed every boss in the game and I'll just pick up the epics when I get there, but for now I find the expansion to be a boring, easy and soulless cash-cow.

 

Hello again Mr. "i-hate-wow-becuz-my-warhammer-fail", can u show us your 8/8 t6 toon, lol? As i saide WOW pvp requires more skill than WAR. Check it our in Arena.

2 seasons gladiator, warlord pre-tbc

WoW PVP doesn't take skill, it just takes habit and some twitch gaming for clutch blinds / kicks / deadly throws, and the willingness to chase pillar humping druids for 20 minutes 100 times a week (god arena is so dull)

Warhammer PVP is far superior, it's actually armies fighting armies, with tanks pushing front lines of melee while casters and healers spread on a backline and watch out for stealthers, there's more tactics, more group play and just more FUN -

Remember "fun"? What PVP was before we were mana burning healers until they went oom so we could win yet another boring rated arena match.

Originally posted by Pheace

Originally posted by Greyhooff

The game environment of WoW is static, your pap about phasing is just sad bull really :)

You can't take over enemy areas and cities, and there's no reward to killing faction leaders, the only "world PVP" is a closed zone (LW) with a mock-battle that is decided by PVE farming buffs and toy car fights

WoW is just about battlegrounds and arena, and it's a boring, done-it-1000-times-before format :)

 

I'm pretty sure you get *some* honor for killing the enemy leaders and there's an achievement with mount reward for killing the enemies leaders as well.

Also, you don't influence anything on a permanent basis in WAR, it's all just temporary. A year from now it'll all be exactly the same (safe a redesign by Mythic)

 Regarding the rewards for killing faction leaders:

www.wowhead.com/

WAR environment is pretty static as well and at least more static than WoW. The phasing has a profound effect on the world and can't be easily dismissed due to blinded fanboysm (asumming of course we're not talking to a paid employee).

WAR is about scenaros all the way up to T4. Hopefully the changes of the new patch will turn WAR 100% from an instance battleground game to the open world PvP game it was advertised to be. Until then, talking about fire in th neightboor house when your own is on fire is not very smart.

Originally posted by Greyhooff

Originally posted by maritpra

Originally posted by Greyhooff

So I took the advice of people on here, bought the xpac and played it, levelling my warrior to 73.

I have to say, I'm already bored - it's the same thing as I did in TBC and quite frankly the graphics are terrible, blocky and the armors look awful (it doesn't help that I'm a human and the human models are blocky and ugly)

The quests are the same old stuff, and although there's some cutscene bits, it's the same gather xp by doing pointless stuff that I've seen before. There's no decent PVP, and I miss the tactics and immediate PVP from Warhammer, where I levelled by doing a rotation of scenarios while questing and doing PQ stages.

I'll continue to 80 and farm Naxx 25man, Malygos and Sart with my old guild for a bit. They've already killed every boss in the game and I'll just pick up the epics when I get there, but for now I find the expansion to be a boring, easy and soulless cash-cow.

 

Hello again Mr. "i-hate-wow-becuz-my-warhammer-fail", can u show us your 8/8 t6 toon, lol? As i saide WOW pvp requires more skill than WAR. Check it our in Arena.

 

2 seasons gladiator, warlord pre-tbc

WoW PVP doesn't take skill, it just takes habit and some twitch gaming for clutch blinds / kicks / deadly throws, and the willingness to chase pillar humping druids for 20 minutes 100 times a week (god arena is so dull)

Warhammer PVP is far superior, it's actually armies fighting armies, with tanks pushing front lines of melee while casters and healers spread on a backline and watch out for stealthers, there's more tactics, more group play and just more FUN -

Remember "fun"? What PVP was before we were mana burning healers until they went oom so we could win yet another boring rated arena match.

Fun is when you struggle to defend your keep from that band of siegewagons rumbling in through your broken walls and just barely hold to win the fight.

Fun is fighting strong opponents with your team and have a team coordinate so well you can take on any class combo that comes up to you and adjust to those situations to whatever the opposite team throws at you.

Fun is ... ow sorry, what were you talking about again? 

Ow tanks pushing frontlines with casters and healers spread on a backline and keeping eyes out for stealthers so they don't nab the objectives behind you?  Ow sorry, that's AV not WAR.

Are you sure you remember fun? Because you sure play WoW a lot for a game you haven't had fun in for years apparently. And *why* exactly did you play Wotlk when you had such an amazing *other* game to keep you busy again? Ow right... you're full of it .. my bad :)

haha no :)

Toy car pewpew game in wintergrasp is nothing like a proper pvp siege. Go farm tenacity buff in your carebear little siege instance and one-shot the lolkids and housewives who play WoW

Arena is dull, and doesn't take much skill apart from not getting bored of doing the same thing over and over again in a box with pillars (and now without pillars!)

Now imagine lines of tanks with shields, deflecting the damage from arrows and fireballs for their entire front line with hold the line and shield wall and guard on a melee dps, pushing forward while assassins pop up behind them to kill their healers - huge fights in the world, taking over entire game maps with large scale attacks, and then moving on to enemy fortresses, and finally into their capital city itself to destroy it and get tons of epic loot - all with much better graphics than blocky old wow graphics

THAT is fun pvp :)

Greyhoof sure spend an insane amout of time in a game he hates. Assuming of course he's not spitting bullshit in all the threads I have the unfortunate displeasure to read his quoted posts.

So far he's done all the dungeons, all the quests, all the instances in both normal and heroic mode in all expansions. He's been a warlord (insane no job 18+ hours grind for months) and season gladiator for months. Given the above, I'd estimate a 300 days played minimum for such a character (400 days would be more in line with these amazing achievements), which totals in 7200 hours or 1440 days if you played a more normal 5-hours per day.

If I wanted to believe that you're a normal non employed person and not talking PR bullshit against a rival game, then I would understand you being burned out from the warlord grind alone. The thing is, all these hours spend should have been fun for you. A normal person will not spend this insane amount of his free time in the only life he gets to do stuff he loaths. And by free time I mean that you're not get paid, since good payment helps as a counterweight for unpleasant stuff. But this is a game for most of us, not work.

I'd please ask people not to quote him, there is one (very obvious) troll I'd rather not have to deal when reading this site.