... I'm not a follower or a hater of this game, there are things that I don't see as positive aspects like the community, the inconsistent art-style the unoriginal lore, but there are some good ideas, like the game-world, freedom etc.

But after I saw the nov18 updates I was shocked, every report sounded like an infomercial and are clearly written by the same person, see, this is not an issue for me or for anyone that see Darkfall as just an upcoming game, but it is a disrespectful attitude for all the people who follow this game for years.

I'm not trying to annoy Darkfall followers and I will not waste my time trying to find proof of what I said, but please, if you disagree, read all the reports again, it is clear that all of them are much more a marketing move than a real beta tester report.

Even the almost "negative" reports seems to be there only to simulate a real beta tester report, but of course they fail at it.

Can I be wrong? Yes, and I hope so, but if I’m not...

You didn't expect them to show the bad ones, did you?

Oooo...

I hope you're wearing a "flame" retardent suit my friend...

But I have to agree with ya.

Meh, say what you want, the Froth&Foamers cant take that away from you. The best they can do is continue to make excuses for Tasos&Co.

I agree with you though, the quotes are ambivalent, and frankly hold just about as much weight as people telling me how great their "Sham-WOW" is.

Originally posted by Umbral

... I'm not a follower or a hater of this game, there are things that I don't see as positive aspects like the community, the inconsistent art-style the unoriginal lore, but there are some good ideas, like the game-world, freedom etc.

But after I saw the nov18 updates I was shocked, every report sounded like an infomercial and are clearly written by the same person, see, this is not an issue for me or for anyone that see Darkfall as just an upcoming game, but it is a disrespectful attitude for all the people who follow this game for years.

I'm not trying to annoy Darkfall followers and I will not waste my time trying to find proof of what I said, but please, if you disagree, read all the reports again, it is clear that all of them are much more a marketing move than a real beta tester report.

Even the almost "negative" reports seems to be there only to simulate a real beta tester report, but of course they fail at it.

Can I be wrong? Yes, and I hope so, but if I’m not...

I've always found most of these vaporware types of posts to be at the very least unnecessary they make it sound like once the game releases and everyone get's it home and open the box they'll find a rock with the weight equivalent to a cd plus other in box goodies if the game releases and sucks it will be nothing new but either way fan posts and negative ones alike are kind of irrelevant.

Jaxsundane, I think you misunderstood my post, I never said anything about vaporware, you should at least understand what you call unnecessary.

...

Originally posted by jaxsundane

Originally posted by Umbral

... I'm not a follower or a hater of this game, there are things that I don't see as positive aspects like the community, the inconsistent art-style the unoriginal lore, but there are some good ideas, like the game-world, freedom etc.

But after I saw the nov18 updates I was shocked, every report sounded like an infomercial and are clearly written by the same person, see, this is not an issue for me or for anyone that see Darkfall as just an upcoming game, but it is a disrespectful attitude for all the people who follow this game for years.

I'm not trying to annoy Darkfall followers and I will not waste my time trying to find proof of what I said, but please, if you disagree, read all the reports again, it is clear that all of them are much more a marketing move than a real beta tester report.

Even the almost "negative" reports seems to be there only to simulate a real beta tester report, but of course they fail at it.

Can I be wrong? Yes, and I hope so, but if I’m not...

 

I've always found most of these vaporware types of posts to be at the very least unnecessary they make it sound like once the game releases and everyone get's it home and open the box they'll find a rock with the weight equivalent to a cd plus other in box goodies if the game releases and sucks it will be nothing new but either way fan posts and negative ones alike are kind of irrelevant.

Not only that, but here in the States since they dont have a publisher, we wont even get a box of rocks. Thats all I hear. "Darkfall rocks." Wheres my rock?

Originally posted by Umbral

 this is not an issue for me or for anyone that see Darkfall as just an upcoming game, but it is a disrespectful attitude for all the people who follow this game for years.

 

Guess you kinda answered your own question.  Adventurine decided to make a game. If it comes out then cool, it not oh well.  We'll wait for something else to come out. 

This is seriously getting old.  I can't believe how retarded people are about games that might be coming out.  If this type of game doesn't interest you then so be it, find one that does.  Whats the point of posting in a game forum if you dont "think/ believe" its coming out.  Boggles my mind.  I of course will just blame it on the no child left behind.  Poor kids  :(

Originally posted by Focker

Originally posted by Umbral

 this is not an issue for me or for anyone that see Darkfall as just an upcoming game, but it is a disrespectful attitude for all the people who follow this game for years.

 

 

 

Guess you kinda answered your own question.  Adventurine decided to make a game. If it comes out then cool, it not oh well.  We'll wait for something else to come out. 

This is seriously getting old.  I can't believe how retarded people are about games that might be coming out.  If this type of game doesn't interest you then so be it, find one that does.  Whats the point of posting in a game forum if you dont "think/ believe" its coming out.  Boggles my mind.  I of course will just blame it on the no child left behind.  Poor kids  :(

You know what boggles my mind?

The fact I never said I dont belive the game is coming out... read it again "see Darkfall as just an upcoming game" ... what is the matter with you and some others that are claiming I said Darkfall is a vaporware?

My point is related to all those infomercial-style pseudo reports, if the same happened with Aion,  TCoS or any other game I would express my opinion as I did here.

...

Originally posted by Umbral

Originally posted by Focker

Originally posted by Umbral

 this is not an issue for me or for anyone that see Darkfall as just an upcoming game, but it is a disrespectful attitude for all the people who follow this game for years.

 

 

 

Guess you kinda answered your own question.  Adventurine decided to make a game. If it comes out then cool, it not oh well.  We'll wait for something else to come out. 

This is seriously getting old.  I can't believe how retarded people are about games that might be coming out.  If this type of game doesn't interest you then so be it, find one that does.  Whats the point of posting in a game forum if you dont "think/ believe" its coming out.  Boggles my mind.  I of course will just blame it on the no child left behind.  Poor kids  :(

 

You know what boggles my mind?

The fact I never said I dont belive the game is coming out... read it again "see Darkfall as just an upcoming game" ... what is the matter with you and some others that are claiming I said Darkfall is a vaporware?

My point is related to all those infomercial-style pseudo reports, if the same happened with Aion,  TCoS or any other game I would express my opinion as I did here.

...

Take your own advice.  Where in my post did I say anything about you not believing or thinking it wasn't coming out?

Originally posted by Focker

Originally posted by Umbral

Originally posted by Focker

Originally posted by Umbral

 this is not an issue for me or for anyone that see Darkfall as just an upcoming game, but it is a disrespectful attitude for all the people who follow this game for years.

 

 

 

Guess you kinda answered your own question.  Adventurine decided to make a game. If it comes out then cool, it not oh well.  We'll wait for something else to come out. 

This is seriously getting old.  I can't believe how retarded people are about games that might be coming out.  If this type of game doesn't interest you then so be it, find one that does.  Whats the point of posting in a game forum if you dont "think/ believe" its coming out.  Boggles my mind.  I of course will just blame it on the no child left behind.  Poor kids  :(

 

You know what boggles my mind?

The fact I never said I dont belive the game is coming out... read it again "see Darkfall as just an upcoming game" ... what is the matter with you and some others that are claiming I said Darkfall is a vaporware?

My point is related to all those infomercial-style pseudo reports, if the same happened with Aion,  TCoS or any other game I would express my opinion as I did here.

...

 

Take your own advice.  Where in my post did I say anything about you not believing or thinking it wasn't coming out?

Im confused, he even highlighted the part where you said whats the point of him posting if he doesnt think or believe its coming out.

It doesnt get much clearer than that.

Umbral you are a victim of angry fan backlash, what you are saying is irrelevant, itll be twisted around to suit the needs of someone balanced precariously on the edge of blind faith.

Soon youll figure out that no matter what you say, as long as it isnt in line with what the fans want to hear, you are a troll, and you are wasting their precious time.

Originally posted by Focker

Originally posted by Umbral

Originally posted by Focker

Originally posted by Umbral

 this is not an issue for me or for anyone that see Darkfall as just an upcoming game, but it is a disrespectful attitude for all the people who follow this game for years.

 

 

 

Guess you kinda answered your own question.  Adventurine decided to make a game. If it comes out then cool, it not oh well.  We'll wait for something else to come out. 

This is seriously getting old.  I can't believe how retarded people are about games that might be coming out.  If this type of game doesn't interest you then so be it, find one that does.  Whats the point of posting in a game forum if you dont "think/ believe" its coming out.  Boggles my mind.  I of course will just blame it on the no child left behind.  Poor kids  :(

 

You know what boggles my mind?

The fact I never said I dont belive the game is coming out... read it again "see Darkfall as just an upcoming game" ... what is the matter with you and some others that are claiming I said Darkfall is a vaporware?

My point is related to all those infomercial-style pseudo reports, if the same happened with Aion,  TCoS or any other game I would express my opinion as I did here.

...

 

Take your own advice.  Where in my post did I say anything about you not believing or thinking it wasn't coming out?

Are you kidding me? 

ummmm.  I think he even high-lighted it for you champ

Originally posted by Arcken

Umbral you are a victim of angry fan backlash, what you are saying is irrelevant, itll be twisted around to suit the needs of someone balanced precariously on the edge of blind faith.

Soon youll figure out that no matter what you say, as long as it isnt in line with what the fans want to hear, you are a troll, and you are wasting their precious time.

Well, I think you are right Arcken...

Originally posted by Arcken

Originally posted by Focker

Originally posted by Umbral

Originally posted by Focker

Originally posted by Umbral

 this is not an issue for me or for anyone that see Darkfall as just an upcoming game, but it is a disrespectful attitude for all the people who follow this game for years.

 

 

 

Guess you kinda answered your own question.  Adventurine decided to make a game. If it comes out then cool, it not oh well.  We'll wait for something else to come out. 

This is seriously getting old.  I can't believe how retarded people are about games that might be coming out.  If this type of game doesn't interest you then so be it, find one that does.  Whats the point of posting in a game forum if you dont "think/ believe" its coming out.  Boggles my mind.  I of course will just blame it on the no child left behind.  Poor kids  :(

 

You know what boggles my mind?

The fact I never said I dont belive the game is coming out... read it again "see Darkfall as just an upcoming game" ... what is the matter with you and some others that are claiming I said Darkfall is a vaporware?

My point is related to all those infomercial-style pseudo reports, if the same happened with Aion,  TCoS or any other game I would express my opinion as I did here.

...

 

Take your own advice.  Where in my post did I say anything about you not believing or thinking it wasn't coming out?

 

Im confused, he even highlighted the part where you said whats the point of him posting if he doesnt think or believe its coming out.

It doesnt get much clearer than that.

Umbral you are a victim of angry fan backlash, what you are saying is irrelevant, itll be twisted around to suit the needs of someone balanced precariously on the edge of blind faith.

Soon youll figure out that no matter what you say, as long as it isnt in line with what the fans want to hear, you are a troll, and you are wasting their precious time.

ah, your one of the slow kids... Here i'll explain it for ya. 

Guess you kinda answered your own question. Adventurine decided to make a game. If it comes out then cool, it not oh well. We'll wait for something else to come out.

This portion was related to his post.

and now this portion is about the little kids who can't stand darkfall but yet keep posting.  Hmm, Not saying you are though.  Cause your the #1 Darkfall fan  :)

This is seriously getting old. I can't believe how retarded people are about games that might be coming out. If this type of game doesn't interest you then so be it, find one that does. Whats the point of posting in a game forum if you dont "think/ believe" its coming out. Boggles my mind. I of course will just blame it on the no child left behind. Poor kids :(

Originally posted by Umbral

But after I saw the nov18 updates I was shocked, every report sounded like an infomercial and are clearly written by the same person, see, this is not an issue for me or for anyone that see Darkfall as just an upcoming game, but it is a disrespectful attitude for all the people who follow this game for years.

dude on betaleaks.com there were absolutely NO leaks, save one that said "the first leaks are out" and it talked about how the graphics are better than expected and the UI is godawful, actually i think that leak was on this forum too... and if you notice, the same thing is mirrored in the Darkfall Beta Test report

But who knows mabye its a giant conspiracy by someone who has too much time on their hands, or a company decided to make forufall their experiment for research purposes, and the Illuminati firmly control the world after Barack Obama's presidency.

Why are the forums so large on Darkfall yet the majority of people here don't like the game O.o, mabye its the forums of people who want to prove that the majority is wrong, and mabye we are, just like how the majority of people LOVE apple when everyone on the outside see it as sh!t.

Originally posted by rageagainst

Originally posted by Umbral

But after I saw the nov18 updates I was shocked, every report sounded like an infomercial and are clearly written by the same person, see, this is not an issue for me or for anyone that see Darkfall as just an upcoming game, but it is a disrespectful attitude for all the people who follow this game for years.

dude on betaleaks.com there were absolutely NO leaks, save one that said "the first leaks are out" and it talked about how the graphics are better than expected and the UI is godawful, actually i think that leak was on this forum too... and if you notice, the same thing is mirrored in the Darkfall Beta Test report

But who knows mabye its a giant conspiracy by someone who has too much time on their hands, or a company decided to make forufall their experiment for research purposes, and the Illuminati firmly control the world after Barack Obama's presidency.

 

Why are the forums so large on Darkfall yet the majority of people here don't like the game O.o, mabye its the forums of people who want to prove that the majority is wrong, and mabye we are, just like how the majority of people LOVE apple when everyone on the outside see it as sh!t.

You are confusing healthy skepticism with dislike. With as many sub par titles that have been released as of late, can you really blame people for that?
 

Personally I think its good that more people are questioning companies and their integrity now. Perhaps now we'll stop seeing the trend of releasing junky games.

Yeah i see where you could get pecemistic, but I mean you would have to have serious time on your hands to make the entire update up, i mean sure its possible, but is it rational? Given that the "leak" which no one could verify here mirrored the things said in the update:

http://betaleaks.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1557

yeah mods this may be twisting the NDA but I need to silence the vaporware no beta rumor and I've found evidence OF beta...

Originally posted by Umbral

Originally posted by Arcken

Umbral you are a victim of angry fan backlash, what you are saying is irrelevant, itll be twisted around to suit the needs of someone balanced precariously on the edge of blind faith.

Soon youll figure out that no matter what you say, as long as it isnt in line with what the fans want to hear, you are a troll, and you are wasting their precious time.

 

Well, I think you are right Arcken...

 

 

 

Aye your right,  your trolling. And speculating based on a gut feeling you just had. I'd say you read those qotes like the Devil reads the bible. Your searching desperatly for ways to bash Darkfall and Aventurine.

Making those quotes all Tasos one's is nothing but hillarious. It's baiting and this thread should be removed, im surpriced it's still here. Your basing all your evidence that Tasos wrote those quotes on what? Some superpower in reading skills? To me they look like 100 different persons that had opinions on the game they just starter to play.

You have as i no real clue of the source person behind them. These quotes have though set a standard for the coming beta players. Inventing up untrue quotes to boost a game that cant live up to it would be like shooting yourself in the foot, even a troll like you should have that kind of insight.

You say that you only see Darkfall as a upcoming game? Have to say you put alot of effort on bashing the game for someone with no real interest in it.

Originally posted by Arcken

Originally posted by rageagainst

Originally posted by Umbral

But after I saw the nov18 updates I was shocked, every report sounded like an infomercial and are clearly written by the same person, see, this is not an issue for me or for anyone that see Darkfall as just an upcoming game, but it is a disrespectful attitude for all the people who follow this game for years.

dude on betaleaks.com there were absolutely NO leaks, save one that said "the first leaks are out" and it talked about how the graphics are better than expected and the UI is godawful, actually i think that leak was on this forum too... and if you notice, the same thing is mirrored in the Darkfall Beta Test report

But who knows mabye its a giant conspiracy by someone who has too much time on their hands, or a company decided to make forufall their experiment for research purposes, and the Illuminati firmly control the world after Barack Obama's presidency.

 

Why are the forums so large on Darkfall yet the majority of people here don't like the game O.o, mabye its the forums of people who want to prove that the majority is wrong, and mabye we are, just like how the majority of people LOVE apple when everyone on the outside see it as sh!t.

You are confusing healthy skepticism with dislike. With as many sub par titles that have been released as of late, can you really blame people for that?
 

Personally I think its good that more people are questioning companies and their integrity now. Perhaps now we'll stop seeing the trend of releasing junky games.

Most likely. Aventurine have a totally different approach then Funcom had with their game.

Aventurine havent hyped their game as Funcom did. Aventurine will not take pre-orders as Funcom did. Aventurine will let us play the game before we buy it, not just the noobie area as Funcom did. Aventurine seems to be the trustworthy company where Funcom were not.

I will not give Aventurine my credit card before i tried the game out though and it seems i will be able to test it fully before i decide to buy and subscribe which is a good thing.

Originally posted by Aragon100

Originally posted by Arcken

Originally posted by rageagainst

Originally posted by Umbral

But after I saw the nov18 updates I was shocked, every report sounded like an infomercial and are clearly written by the same person, see, this is not an issue for me or for anyone that see Darkfall as just an upcoming game, but it is a disrespectful attitude for all the people who follow this game for years.

dude on betaleaks.com there were absolutely NO leaks, save one that said "the first leaks are out" and it talked about how the graphics are better than expected and the UI is godawful, actually i think that leak was on this forum too... and if you notice, the same thing is mirrored in the Darkfall Beta Test report

But who knows mabye its a giant conspiracy by someone who has too much time on their hands, or a company decided to make forufall their experiment for research purposes, and the Illuminati firmly control the world after Barack Obama's presidency.

 

Why are the forums so large on Darkfall yet the majority of people here don't like the game O.o, mabye its the forums of people who want to prove that the majority is wrong, and mabye we are, just like how the majority of people LOVE apple when everyone on the outside see it as sh!t.

You are confusing healthy skepticism with dislike. With as many sub par titles that have been released as of late, can you really blame people for that?
 

Personally I think its good that more people are questioning companies and their integrity now. Perhaps now we'll stop seeing the trend of releasing junky games.

 

Most likely. Aventurine have a totally different approach then Funcom had with their game.

Aventurine havent hyped their game as Funcom did. Aventurine will not take pre-orders as Funcom did. Aventurine will let us play the game before we buy it, not just the noobie area as Funcom did. Aventurine seems to be the trustworthy company where Funcom were not.

I will not give Aventurine my credit card before i tried the game out though and it seems i will be able to test it fully before i decide to buy and subscribe which is a good thing.

kinda makes me wonder why people cant understand this either.

and also why these same people ask for more updates on df. they call them liars after they start to do more updates