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Is all over the swedish newspaper, a 15 year old kid did a 24 hour gameing session in WOTLK.. Seems like he is ok now but there is lotsa whining about MMOs here. Doesn't the parents have any sence today? My parents would slap me silly for that. For you that can read swedish, here is a link:www.aftonbladet.se/nojesbladet/recensioner/spelnytt/article3788342.ab I like MMOs as much as the next one, and Im in excellent shape but I would never do a 24H anyways, I mean it isn't fun once you get really tired. |
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11/17/08 6:54:11 AM#2
Originally posted by Loke666
So when you drive for 24 hours straight and kill yourself, is it the cars fault? |
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11/17/08 6:55:51 AM#3
So like people to try to blame it on the game when it should be obvious to anyone that the parents were the complete failure here. |
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11/17/08 6:57:52 AM#4
A lot of parents of the older generation just have no idea about the internet or MMO's nowadays. I would hope that those of us who have been brought up with this technology will be more aware and responsible when we have kids. |
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talismen351
Apprentice Member
Joined: 11/01/07
"Easy" only equals "better" for crack addicts and MMORPG developers. |
11/17/08 8:32:32 AM#5
And how is it so much the fault of the parents...as it is of the kid himself? Seriously if the kid at 15 is too dumb to take a break.... I hope the parents take away his PC for a few months....that is what I would do. |
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11/17/08 8:38:14 AM#6
meh, aftonbladet is a sad excuse for a newspaper anyway. and i can't say i've seen it on the news, so it's not like they blow it up here or anything. actually didn't hear about it until this very thread. My Signature |
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11/17/08 8:47:11 AM#7
Lolz, people do need to be held accountable for their own actions. The 15 year old should have known better and I would have thought normal parents might have jumped in after a few hours. I’m sure there is more to this then just WoW, the game didn’t stop him from getting up. This sounds like an addiction that has gone too far, I’m sure this wasn’t the boys first day of WoW and I’m sure this wasn’t his first all nighter. |
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11/17/08 9:01:23 AM#8
Here in Canada a 15 year old ran away from home and later found dead after his parents took away his video game.
"Steve and his wife, Angelika Crisp, say that, for the past three years, their son has been obsessed with playing an online game called Call of Duty 4. They claim he was playing the game everyday until 4 a.m."
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2008/11/05/7313641.html Why is it that, as a culture, we are more comfortable seeing two men holding guns than holding hands? ~Ernest Gaines |
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11/17/08 9:08:04 AM#9
You know, It is the parents who are to blame here! There is something called parental controls in the Account Management of any decent MMO out there in wich you can restrict access for minors like this 15 year old kid. The fact that he could game on for 24hours says enough that his parents don't give a damn about their own kid. And that is most sad in all of this. So many parents just have kids just for having them, but completely forget about the responsibility they carry for their kids till they are at least 18 years old! Cheers |
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11/17/08 9:13:46 AM#10
You know I put the blame for something like this and the incident that happened in Canada solely on the parents. I know some people here say that "how is it the parents fault" well basicly as a parent you have to be involved with what your kids are doing. I know my parents used to know all my friends and there parents to just be sure I was ok all the time. They watched the games that I played and if it looked to violent or not appropriate they would take it away or sit me down and have a discussion about what the game is doing and that it was not real life. Heck even "The Bugs bunny and Tweety" show was explained that it was not real and that TV and Real life are very different. Guess that is why I never hit someone with a hammer...LOL. Basicly what I am saying is Parents have to be involved and work with there kids so that they have a good grasp on reality. When all is said and don any MMO is nothing more then a GAME!!! Just like checkers, chess, monopoly, risk...etc they game in the end is something to take your mind of reality for awhile but you have to realize that it will end sometime. Another reason I say parents are not that involved in what there own kids do is this, last year I worked at Best Buy for 10 months part time, shutter, anyway near Christmas a lady and her 7 year old sone brought up some games to buy for his xbox. Now as I was scanning them in one of the games said, "Check for ID" the game was rated T by the ESRB. When I told the lady about the game being a restricted game she scoffed at me and said, "just sell it to me", "My kid wants it and he is going to get it." I laughed and thought in my head, "This is why some people should not become parents." I don't know just my 2 cents I guess. |
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11/17/08 9:15:43 AM#11
wtf were the parents doing? for god's sake, he is 15. if he doesnt want to stop playing then pull the friggen fuse
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11/17/08 9:18:56 AM#12
24 hours is nothing i had a friend in a 36 hour session in internet caffe...i was there on his last hours and all i can say is : WASTED ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
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11/17/08 9:19:52 AM#13
Zantax that's very true. However, some parents are using these "mediums" as babysitters. Why is it that, as a culture, we are more comfortable seeing two men holding guns than holding hands? ~Ernest Gaines |
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11/17/08 9:21:20 AM#14
That is sad... People play crap games and get put in the hospital....what has this world come to?
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originalegg
Novice Member
Joined: 10/09/06
Darkfall Releases - February 25th!!! Vaporware trolls = scum |
11/17/08 9:22:42 AM#15
@15 years old, do the parents share part of the blame? of course. However a lot of people are in denial in this thread about the addictive qualities of MMOs, especially WoW which is designed around giving player carrots on a stick and getting them hooked. Some of us can control the amount of time play and balance it with real life, but when you talk about young teens and even younger, they may not have developed that sense yet. This is where the parents should step in. Tenspotting's analogy of it being the car's fault if someone drives for 24 hours is just ridiculous as the car doesnt had addictive qualities and that is just someone being stupid. FACT is that MMOs, especially ones designed round the WoW model, have serious addictive mechanics that younger kids may not have enough sense to balance. cliff notes: parents played a big part in this screw up, but the MMO was hardly blameless, if anything its 50/50. ---sig---
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11/17/08 9:26:22 AM#16
I am not saying as to who to blame. However, a few things. 1. 24 hours of gaming leads to hospticalization? I know everyone is different, but 24 hours of even straight gaming is not really an incredible amount. Only reason I can think of is that the kid is weak to begin with or played games so much that he is out of shape. 2. Why blame the game when the kid is allowed to play for extended periods of time? Where are the parents in this? 3. A game cannot make you play for 24 hours straight, you can. 4. The reason for the kid's hospitlalization could lie else where. Poor diet, stress, etc etc. Maybe the gaming only really triggered what was already there? 5. Better to keep an eye on that kid. The kid is only 15, the kid is at the peak of his life in terms of physiology and development. If the kid can't handle this amount of stress on the body, then something other than the fact he plays game need to be reviewed as possible causes for his collapse. |
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11/17/08 9:29:52 AM#17
Originally posted by originalegg
50/50? I smoke cigarettes by my own choice, so thas half the tobacco companies fault? I'm overweight cuz i eat unhealthy food, is that the fast food chains fault? 50/50? |
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originalegg
Novice Member
Joined: 10/09/06
Darkfall Releases - February 25th!!! Vaporware trolls = scum |
11/17/08 9:35:32 AM#18
Originally posted by Facil01
50/50? I smoke cigarettes by my own choice, so thas half the tobacco companies fault? I'm overweight cuz i eat unhealthy food, is that the fast food chains fault? 50/50?
I dont like where this is going but... Yes. Why do you smoke? because it is good for your health? because it makes you look super badass? because you wanted to be cool in highschool and cant kick it now? tobacco companies supplied you with a highly addictive product that is bad for your health, they know this and their main reason is to turn a profit off of killing people. no secret there. eating unhealthy food is defintiely more of a bonehead decision on the part of the consumer. since you gave 2 different examples, im goin to assume you dont understand the main point im trying to make which is that the product has, by design, very addictive qualities. since you tried to use cigarettes and fast food as example, one clearly more addictive than the other, i assume you didnt understand this. though i guess you could make an arguement for fast food being addictive, but not nearly as much as cigs. ---sig---
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11/17/08 9:52:22 AM#19
Originally posted by originalegg
I dont like where this is going but... Yes. Why do you smoke? because it is good for your health? because it makes you look super badass? because you wanted to be cool in highschool and cant kick it now? tobacco companies supplied you with a highly addictive product that is bad for your health, they know this and their main reason is to turn a profit off of killing people. no secret there. eating unhealthy food is defintiely more of a bonehead decision on the part of the consumer. since you gave 2 different examples, im goin to assume you dont understand the main point im trying to make which is that the product has, by design, very addictive qualities. since you tried to use cigarettes and fast food as example, one clearly more addictive than the other, i assume you didnt understand this. though i guess you could make an arguement for fast food being addictive, but not nearly as much as cigs. I was only trying to express that i think 50/50 is too much credit given to the MMO companies/tobacco companies. I see that you were saying that the addiction itself is the problem and that mmo companies know this and are liable..... I think everyone is to blame but i think the consumer is more at fault than the companies selling/fabricating/marketing etc. these products. anyways. I see your point i was just disagreeing, perhaps should have elaborated more.... but, then i would get to write this really long response in defense of my first post on this subject.... =)
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11/17/08 9:56:57 AM#20
Originally posted by originalegg
I dont like where this is going but... Yes. Why do you smoke? because it is good for your health? because it makes you look super badass? because you wanted to be cool in highschool and cant kick it now? tobacco companies supplied you with a highly addictive product that is bad for your health, they know this and their main reason is to turn a profit off of killing people. no secret there. eating unhealthy food is defintiely more of a bonehead decision on the part of the consumer. since you gave 2 different examples, im goin to assume you dont understand the main point im trying to make which is that the product has, by design, very addictive qualities. since you tried to use cigarettes and fast food as example, one clearly more addictive than the other, i assume you didnt understand this. though i guess you could make an arguement for fast food being addictive, but not nearly as much as cigs.
Smoking is for the nicotaine to counter the fluoride in the water that you drink that is making you a puppet, its the truth... But everything is harmful if you dont take it/ do it in moderation. even WoW log in screen have already warn you about it... If need to blame? the boy himself and the parents..... RIP Orc Choppa |
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