Originally posted by nikoliath

Originally posted by Guillermo197

Every MMO has an exit poll.

Ofcourse if you cancel on the day or around the day WOTLK comes out you actually get the exit poll at this moment.

On almost every MMO I have played I got an exit poll when I canceled my subscription.

Nothing further to say.

In this case you are wrong, <wipes smug smile from your face>. Know your facts before you bully ppl.

Nothing further to say.

So being smug while slinging baseless comments cancels out other smug baseless comments?  No, I'm not going to do any <forum interpretive action typing> to prove my baseless point.

Abrahmm was right, he mentioned about arena that i forgot to mention. I love arena, it's fair fight 2vs2 3vs3 or 5vs5, most of the time u fight ppl with same ranking or close. It's just skill and skill and skill.

Originally posted by maritpra

I love arena, it's fair fight 2vs2 3vs3 or 5vs5, most of the time u fight ppl with same ranking or close. It's just skill and skill and skill.

ROFL, nuff said.

Originally posted by SignusM

Originally posted by maritpra

Because WOW pvp requires more skill and it is more fun than WAR.

AHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHA

 

You think something in WoW requires skill? Really? You do? Are you 11 or something? 

 

DAoC(and by association, WAR) have the best PvP on the market right now. WoW is a PvE game kids. 

Don't you dare try to lot DAoC in with WAR. WAR has NOTHING on the greatness of DAoC and it's idiots like you that make me want to grab a gun and go DC some people. Just because Mythic made a really great game in the past doesn't mean everything they touch will be good. Mythic took a look at all the good stuff from DAoC and then said to themselves, "Uhh, well WoW isn't that complex so we won't do that. Let's dumb it down."

This is seen in the freaking limited number of pads in specific positions for siege weapons. In a TERRIBLE crafting system a half-dead, crack addicted reese's monkey could have come up with. In the sluggish, often-times awkward combat system and cookie-cutter classes that show zero imagination. When I was playing WAR ( I quit a week ago) I routinely ran into stuff that made me go, "These are the same guys that made DAoC??".

Where are the little hidden rocks for stealthers to climb up on keeps? Why are the siege weapons limited to specific places and THEN can't even be moved?!? Why does the crafting system SUCK so bad? Where are my relics or ANY -REAL- reason to -WANT- to capture a keep? Where is my massive, open RvR action?

I'll tell you where all that stuff is; Mark Jacobs' ego ate all of the good ideas. Mythic went down the wrong path for WAR and they still seem to not see that. If in a month's time the game isn't put back on track and/or M. Jacobs doesn't make a public apology for the state of the game then that will be the end of WAR.

And no, I wasn't expecting WoW-like success (11million scrips in a few months is a ridiculous expectation to begin wtih). I even saw this coming back when I was in CB and then OB but I just blinded myself to the truth. Mythic promised to make a fantastic pvp-oriented game when what they churned out is a slightly more pvp focused game than WoW with less than half the rest of content WoW has. Yeah I know that WoW has had 4+years over WAR, but so what? I would have been happy if Mythic had even finished the content that they -did- put in the game, 98% bug free. However, they didn't and why should anyone put up with an "unfinished product"?

Let me clarify that last bit real fast: By un-finished I mean that (as I said) that they content that Mythic aimed to have in the game was NOT even fully complete and polished. MMO's are a continuous work in progress, but when did it become industry standard to say your game will have x, y, and z features at release and then not even completely finish them? What happened to pride in your product over greed? What happened to accountability over accountants (figures)?

heh was just about to post about this. I canceled more than a month ago and just got this yesterday.

The really dumb thing was there is not section for comments and none of the reasons they had listed as reasons for leaving the game were why I left. If they had really wanted to know they would have put in a comments section.

1. No death penalty

2. PVE that makes WOW PVE look like EQ1

3. Two different games one  for those who play during prime time playing hours and one for those who played on low pop servers or durring non-peak playing hours. Neither very good.

4. no real amount of RVR PVP only scenario PVP.

5 ultra linearity  and to much cookie cutter copy and paste work.

Reply with this:

"Don't give us bullshit theme park kiddy MMO's and bring back the only MMO that could still be worth a shit these days (with a couple of exceptions) with releasing DAoC Origins."

That's a long sentence.

Originally posted by Zayne3145

I'd have put: "There was no War and I couldn't plug a hole that big."

You know the best part about wow pvp ?  Its paladin v paladin fights.  Now that is the ultimate pvp fun, pwnage good times right there !! oh boy, the same 8 classed fighting for 2 very different factions -- FUN FUN FUN !!

yay !!

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that is the ultimate pvp fun, pwnage good times right there !! oh boy, the same 8 classed fighting for 2 very different factions -- FUN FUN FUN !!

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I guess the key verb in this sentence is FIGHTING.

At least two paladins ACTUALLY showed up for a battle. I was still looking for Destro guys to burn up outside a scenario till the day I uninstalled.

Um.. I fried mob trolls for awhile instead then /uninstall.

I'm sure War will find a nice comfty spot in the bargain bin in the back of the store next to Vanguard and AoC. It won't die, but the collective sound of those three games huddled and whimpering together in the back will prompt some customer in Gamestop to call the SPCA or the cops or something.

"I'm telling ya, officer.. they are beating animals or running Micheal Vick-style dogfights in that store!!!"

Lag, lag killed me more than anything else.

Slow leveling speed. So slow, I couldn't see any progress.

Originally posted by WesKhan1

Reply with this:

 

"Don't give us bullshit theme park kiddy MMO's and bring back the only MMO that could still be worth a shit these days (with a couple of exceptions) with releasing DAoC Origins."

 

That's a long sentence.

just because your sig is awetastic (yeah, jam awesome and fantastic together, I just made that a word).

And your sentence basically sums up what I said above. I don't know if it was EA's fault (insanely greedy mega-corp) or Mythic's fault (small-time dev studio going big-time and let it get to their head.....plus greed), but WAR turned out terribly. Sold all these fans on a product that was NOT delivered and they'll get away with it due to vague wording and descriptions.

I never give reasons why I leave a game so if there is "other" in the choices I always say

"It's not my job to tell you how to do your job".But for war I would rather say "If your game had everything that was promised we would not have been in this situation,won`t we?"

Originally posted by Azrile

The poll is so in the near future, MJ can spin the numbers "  75% of players who left Warhammer for WOW have now come back during the timeframe we used".     Of course that means he will wait for the 5 minute period where 3 out of 4 people who complete the survey said they were coming back.

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You are getting better every day Azrile. Gz.

What a laugh this MJ is: for those who missed out on some other quotes of comical MJ:

"We only lost 3% of our players..... since yesterday (sic!)"

"We have a retention rate of 70% since subs billing started"....a week ago.

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The fact that this email was send out now, means he is going to pull some numbers out of his ass in a few weeks time. With Blizz it's an automated webpage, they do this for years. With Mythic it's a handmade email reaction to the "they all come back" statement of Blizz..

How much worse can you get in your communications ? Perhaps mentioning death threads ?

One day in Northrend is enough to never go back to War again. And we didn't even get to play Lake Winter yet.

The day he publishes something like 30% of the War players came back with a flat Xfire line showing to everyone, he'll be the joke of the world (again).

Poor poor MJ. When is he going to be replaced or "promoted" , EA is cutting everything with these kind of losses they have. It wouldn't surprise me one bit.

Originally posted by Abrahmm

Originally posted by SignusM

Originally posted by maritpra

Because WOW pvp requires more skill and it is more fun than WAR.

AHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHA

 

You think something in WoW requires skill? Really? You do? Are you 11 or something? 

 

DAoC(and by association, WAR) have the best PvP on the market right now. WoW is a PvE game kids. 

 

Everything requires one level of skill or another. He didn't say it requires skill, he says it requires MORE skill than WAR. He's completely right. Howerever much I dislike arenas, they do magnify personal skill far more than any zergfest scenario ever could. Little skill is needed at all to play WAR, and they purposely made it that easy.

I dunno if I would say WoW is more skill than WAR.  Its definately more gear based, that goes without saying.  WoW PvP is based primarily on gear.  As far as WAR goes, its still kind of early and im still getting the feel of the mechanics.  But all in all it feels more like Shadowbane PvP than WoW, and take that how you will.

I started this thread wondering if anyone else had got this "pre-WoTLK" email. Looks like I was right in wondering.

I really just thought it strange that they would send a "Tell us why our relationship went bad" email went bad several WEEKS after I quit.  They were THAT busy???

To send that to me the day WoTLK releases in stores (even though I was NOT planning on buying WoTLK) says louder volumes about the state of this game than Mythic closing (oops... "free character transfers") servers.

Kinda like they got a hint that their man might wanna see another woman, so they give a quick holla' back trying to give a quick booty call to keep the bling coming her way.

What's next? Free exp if I come back? Founder bags? More loot drops than someone subbing now for the first time?

Sad, just sad.  I think I can smell the desperation now, I didn't before but looks that way now.  

I swear to God this is starting to look like Vanguard more and more, except with fewer bugs and less fun.  Same formula with similar customer service.

Originally posted by popinjay

 

 

"I went to the PvP lakes, and there was so little fighting, that even the fish weren't scared to crawl out of the water and suntan on the shore."

 

Hahaha

uhhh answer it truthfully?

thats what i did...

Originally posted by maritpra

Because WOW pvp requires more skill and it is more fun than WAR.

I really have to laugh at this one.

Originally posted by Getalife

Originally posted by maritpra

Because WOW pvp requires more skill and it is more fun than WAR.

 

I really have to laugh at this one.

Why cuz ur too bad to even attempt WoW arenas?

Originally posted by popinjay

I started this thread wondering if anyone else had got this "pre-WoTLK" email. Looks like I was right in wondering.

I really just thought it strange that they would send a "Tell us why our relationship went bad" email went bad several WEEKS after I quit.  They were THAT busy???

To send that to me the day WoTLK releases in stores (even though I was NOT planning on buying WoTLK) says louder volumes about the state of this game than Mythic closing (oops... "free character transfers") servers.

Kinda like they got a hint that their man might wanna see another woman, so they give a quick holla' back trying to give a quick booty call to keep the bling coming her way.

What's next? Free exp if I come back? Founder bags? More loot drops than someone subbing now for the first time?

Sad, just sad.  I think I can smell the desperation now, I didn't before but looks that way now.  

I swear to God this is starting to look like Vanguard more and more, except with fewer bugs and less fun.  Same formula with similar customer service.

Yeah, getting this email the day before Wrath really made me laugh.   I cancelled my account on Sept 24th or something like that.  Getting an email 2 months later is funny.   It kinda goes hand-in-hand with EA having a 'one day half price sale' on warhammer the same day Wrath is released.

If people like MJ and GG/EE (from Funcom) weren't so smug about their games pre-release, I probably wouldn't enjoy this all so much.

 

Yeah, getting this email the day before Wrath really made me laugh.   I cancelled my account on Sept 24th or something like that.  Getting an email 2 months later is funny.   It kinda goes hand-in-hand with EA having a 'one day half price sale' on warhammer the same day Wrath is released.

If people like MJ and GG/EE (from Funcom) weren't so smug about their games pre-release, I probably wouldn't enjoy this all so much.

Watching smug pricks have their dreams destroyed usually is the best form of entertainment. Their tears are so delicious.

All joking aside though I'm willing to bet Games Workshop isn't too happy about how things turned out. I would say something like, 'MJ will probably get replaced.", but I can't really think of anyone who would want to take his job right now.