Originally posted by mz3r2t

As long as this game dosen't go the microtransactions road, then I'm getting it.

I was following Champions Online since it was supposed to be Marvel Universe..Once they announced microtransactions, that did it for me.

All Soe games now have Microtransactions as standard, DCUO will be no different.

Originally posted by Grubar

Originally posted by Manchine

Originally posted by Hunters14

For me it will be successful because DC is already popular. There are millions of DC fans out there who would love to try the game.

 

Same logic would go for Star Wars yet that didn't happen.

 

Of course, same logic applies to Warcraft and look what happened to World of Warcraft. Rest is history.

Warcraft wasn't popular.  It came out of no where!

Originally posted by Manchine

Originally posted by Grubar

Originally posted by Manchine

Originally posted by Hunters14

For me it will be successful because DC is already popular. There are millions of DC fans out there who would love to try the game.

 

Same logic would go for Star Wars yet that didn't happen.

 

Of course, same logic applies to Warcraft and look what happened to World of Warcraft. Rest is history.

 

Warcraft wasn't popular.  It came out of no where!

Wrong. Blizzard's Warcraft was damn popular, along with Starcraft. The whopping international fans of Warcraft swept into Blizzard's spanking new MMO, World of Warcraft, quite decisively and easily. Rest is Blizzard history.

Originally posted by Grubar

Warcraft wasn't popular.  It came out of no where!

WHAT?! Warcraft 3 is still one of the most popular computer games of all time! 

Microtransactions & console gameplay = blah (imo of course)

Originally posted by charlespayne
Reason why DCU will be sucssesful is becouse alot think it is a way between DCU and champions, but the true secret is that DCU will pile on the players and COX will end up dead becouse champions will take all the players from it, i seen the gencoms vids for champions and basicly it is COX but with better graphics and no zones to keep you in a short area to roam, but DCU is completly diff like comparing dc to marval one is a natual born hero and one was created, so criptic has made a huge misstake by makeing a mmo that will basicly compete against it self, thay should have kept with marval online at least it would be worth battling against.

It wont be successful because alot of people (most of eastern and central europe at least) including me havent even heard or have a clue what DC or DCU is.

Heard of Marvel though but not sure if marval is the same thing from what you saying there...

Originally posted by Grubar

Originally posted by Manchine

Originally posted by Grubar

Originally posted by Manchine

Originally posted by Hunters14

For me it will be successful because DC is already popular. There are millions of DC fans out there who would love to try the game.

 

Same logic would go for Star Wars yet that didn't happen.

 

Of course, same logic applies to Warcraft and look what happened to World of Warcraft. Rest is history.

 

Warcraft wasn't popular.  It came out of no where!

Wrong. Blizzard's Warcraft was damn popular, along with Starcraft. The whopping international fans of Warcraft swept into Blizzard's spanking new MMO, World of Warcraft, quite decisively and easily. Rest is Blizzard history.

I think what machine was trying to say is that world of warcraft was successful beyond expectations from the moment it released.  Blizzard was overwhelmed by its sales and it took them a good deal of time to get more servers and release more copies.  I thought the comment was a bit off as you did, but nothing compares to the star wars IP as far as popularity.

I bet I could walk up to most anyone on the street and ask them who darth vadar is and get some sort of answer from them and maybe even be able to tell who did the voice acting.  Asking them who thrall is would get nothing but blank stares.

Originally posted by Daffid011

Originally posted by Grubar

Originally posted by Manchine

Originally posted by Grubar

Originally posted by Manchine

Originally posted by Hunters14

For me it will be successful because DC is already popular. There are millions of DC fans out there who would love to try the game.

 

Same logic would go for Star Wars yet that didn't happen.

 

Of course, same logic applies to Warcraft and look what happened to World of Warcraft. Rest is history.

 

Warcraft wasn't popular.  It came out of no where!

Wrong. Blizzard's Warcraft was damn popular, along with Starcraft. The whopping international fans of Warcraft swept into Blizzard's spanking new MMO, World of Warcraft, quite decisively and easily. Rest is Blizzard history.

 

I think what machine was trying to say is that world of warcraft was successful beyond expectations from the moment it released.  Blizzard was overwhelmed by its sales and it took them a good deal of time to get more servers and release more copies.  I thought the comment was a bit off as you did, but nothing compares to the star wars IP as far as popularity.

I bet I could walk up to most anyone on the street and ask them who darth vadar is and get some sort of answer from them and maybe even be able to tell who did the voice acting.  Asking them who thrall is would get nothing but blank stares.

The first year of World of Warcaft ONLINE sucked big time.  A lot of people don't realise that.  I mean it wasn't Anarchy Online bad but it had some MAJOR problems. 

Having lots of fans isn't an instant win.  It does help out yes but having good game play is a must.  Its the same as having good actors and a bad movie.

For me, it comes down to either Champions Online or DC Universe and who has the most tolerable mt's.

DC Universe looks better to me, but if Champion's mt's are more subtle, then I"m going for that.

I thought mt's were supposed to be for free to play games. Free to play, expensive to enjoy...

Originally posted by mz3r2t

For me, it comes down to either Champions Online or DC Universe and who has the most tolerable mt's.

DC Universe looks better to me, but if Champion's mt's are more subtle, then I"m going for that.

I thought mt's were supposed to be for free to play games. Free to play, expensive to enjoy...

Same for me, buddy. It is like ALL the games are MT based now. Even CoX is MT to some degree now days with its' expansions+content update model. Sad, but it is odd that way. So far ChampO has a light model they are talking about. Nothing world shattering, but time will tell. DCUO may be offering whole powersets as MT exclusive content and that is painful. You know you are going to want to play those powersets too. Ouch. If both go that route I will be really unhappy. I'd rather buy expansions. Stuff I can pass on and not feel ripped off.

This thread is full of really interesting stuff. I learned a lot actually.

Originally posted by lazyredhead

reasons why DCU will fail:

the developer is SOE

They did good with EQ and past failures doesn't mean that a new game will fail.

Do you know how many crap games Blizzard did before they hit the jackpot with Warcraft 2 and Diablo?

Except the stupid RMT I think SOE have turned EQ2 from an avarage boring MMO into a great game.

DCU is very different from any MMOs we know today, it have more in common with GTA then Wow in many ways. If it can get the PS3 kids into playing it SOE will make a lot of money.

It might fail badly also but it looks a lot better than CO and have Jim Lee doing the art. I think it have a lot bigger chanse than CO who just is an upgraded version of City of heroes.

Originally posted by Loke666

 Do you know how many crap games Blizzard did before they hit the jackpot with Warcraft 2 and Diablo?

Not many I would say or do you mean games like Lost vikings 1 and 2?, Rock and roll racing?, blackthorne? and warcraft 1? Those "crap" games? Or do you mean some other games? Even if you count their superman and justice league task force games that still only makes em 2 by my count, and they are not crap games by the standards at the time they where released at. Please enlighten me what crap games they made I am curious.

Originally posted by Loke666

Originally posted by lazyredhead

reasons why DCU will fail:

the developer is SOE

 

They did good with EQ and past failures doesn't mean that a new game will fail.

Do you know how many crap games Blizzard did before they hit the jackpot with Warcraft 2 and Diablo?

Except the stupid RMT I think SOE have turned EQ2 from an avarage boring MMO into a great game.

DCU is very different from any MMOs we know today, it have more in common with GTA then Wow in many ways. If it can get the PS3 kids into playing it SOE will make a lot of money.

It might fail badly also but it looks a lot better than CO and have Jim Lee doing the art. I think it have a lot bigger chanse than CO who just is an upgraded version of City of heroes.

You have to admit that SOE has really mucked up just about everything they have touched.  EQ2 is only improving, because they have a successful model to follow.  If they have to do something on their own, they just don't know how to make good games anymore.  EQ2 always had potential to be a great game, but look at the choices soe made with it in the beginning.  That is what made is such a bad game from gameplay, to game engine to many of the aspects that drove players away.  After many years it has finally turned around, but again not as a result of soes initiatives. 

When you look at their track record what has soe done?  They bought out sigil and continued supporting an already successful game.  Beyond that they have really underachieved and they are really struggling.

Free realms can not even fill 1 server with players even after having 5 million sign up for the game.

The agency has been pushed back after some 5 years of development and the heads of the studio left the company suddenly.  This game looks like it could be in serious trouble. 

DCU, well what really scares me is how many times the leadership roles have changed on this title.  I suspect some people were not following the company policy with their design decisions so they got replaced and I don't like what Smedly talks about in his vision of the industries future.  

I will admit that DCU looks like it has potential even though the gameplay doens't look all that great, it is still a very powerful license that would take serious effort to screw up.   Also I really like the way the DCU rep talked about DCU at fan faire.  His name and position escape me right now, but I think it was Jans or something Eurpean sounding.   He was the only person that walked on the stage to show any passion for his product.   Everyone else was more interested in whoring out loot cards and filling in their 120 seconds of stage time talking about inane garbage and press fluff. 

If I was forced to bet money I would put 1000$ on the failure of DC.

DC stands for DisConnected / DisContinued

champions have better looking visual than dc unierverse but dc gameplay will be better.

DCU looks like a complete failture to me.