It doesn't matter if its Football or Soccer or X sport whatever..and MMO based on a sport period is corny...and screams Item Mall / F2P / advertisers dream they already have Puma On board....its like a bizarre invasion.    There will be people who love it though...people who like 'team' games or just plain love soccer but still..a Sports MMO?  Good luck to them.

Wow, seriously are you that narrow minded? You class it as corny because the simple fact its a 'sports MMO'? and you won't even give it a chance? sheet thats forked up on your part.

I say well done monumental for actually having the guts to stand up and try something new, and if all you 'haters' want to sit here and bit*ch about how lame 'sports MMO' games are or how lame football/soccer is then thats your problem, if you want to come here and read about the game then complain just show how much of a life you DON'T have .

Have fun

Originally posted by Ishiot

Originally posted by Neosai

A sports MMORPG?  I would hate to be the designer for that game.  It will be a nightmare to come up with ways to keep the gameplay interesting on a game, in a game, that is based on a game.

Sports are best played in real life, that is what I firmly believe (however, if you are disabled, then that is a different story). 

There are reasons why I don't ever buy sports game for any console, even though I completely wipe the floor with my friends when we do play one.  Winning in sports game brings me no joy btw, however, beating someone who bought the game does. LOL

Just thinking about a sports MMORPG have made my day.

 

Well, to comment on a few things you have said..

If you check out the FS forums you would actually see that alot of the people there have come up with alot of ideas for what they would like to see added into the game and most have been 'taken into consideration' or have 'already been spoken about' so just from that it seems that there will be alot of features coming into the game sooner or later.

 

Ahhh now console sports games are normally easy yes i agree with you on that, BUT now this is on PC and you are only in control of ONE player in the team and winning may be a harder task than most people think.. I urge you to just try it out upon release see what you think, you may well just enjoy it, if you don't then at least you gave it a shot.

I did not think it was possible, but you completely missed all the humor in all the sentences.  I need to work on my punchlines and stuff. Sigh.

However, I do believe that there are some issues for it to be in the genre of MMORPG.  I'll list them so you can counter if you wish, however, I am going to be very generous to that game by assuming it is the best sports MMORPG ever made.  (I always assume the most extreme case and take it apart with skepticism.  That is how I remain as objective as possible)

1.  You will be playing Soccor.  This either appeals or turn away players, there are no middle ground, due to the genre being sports.  Furthermore, soccor is one sport out of countless other sports, even if it is the most popular sport in the world.  Even under the assumption that this is the best soccor game in the world there is still almost have no room for arguement when it comes to this point.  Out of the people that actually play it, of course not all will play it religiously, always a portion wil be gone after a short time.

2.  Under the assumption it is the best soccor game in the world, they of course will have huge array of customization anywhere from appearance, stats, skills, style, equipments to formations and teamwork, etc etc etc.  Lets assume even more that they add in career mode and even training and even everyday life.  They have simulated a real professional soccor player's life.  Now what? Of course they go out and play soccor with other players.  They can tweak the rule and make the game super exciting to play, and filled with cool moves.  However, this doesn't change the fact that they can only be playing soccor.  Once players realize this point they will either keep playing, playing casually, or simply quit.

3.  Lets say it is so great that it retains all the player base that  did give it a shot.  Huge player base, they all play soccor all day long.  However, human attention span is pathetic, and repetition is boring, especially when something involves playing the same game everyday even if the opponents/teamates change.  The differents between real professional soccor players and virtual soccor players kicks in. 

Real life pro soccor players work hard, train their body, get accustomed to or even addcited to adrenaline, they play and they get injured.  However, they get up and play again.  They play and keep playing because this game now defines their existence, this game pays their bills, and to feel like they are truly alive on the field.  They cry when they lose, they laugh when they win, and might keep going till the day they become unfit to compete.  This is not just a sport, it is a way of living.

Here is the question, how much of those experiences can the virtual soccor players experience?  Hardship from too much grinding?  Getting virtually injured? Display virtual fortitude over virtual pain?

Yes, it can be very fun to play soccor online against other people.  However, since the entire essense of soccor is missing, even with all the customization, interaction, and character progression.  They still play empty games of soccor, and it is easy to see where the limits are whether it is MMORPG or not.  This is basically just like current MMORPG, except there are less variation on soccor than fighting which means even less staying power.  I am not saying soccor shouldn't be online, I am only saying in the genre of MMORPG, soccor might only be able to barely be Massive Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game to have time to develop into a world of its own.  (Would be cool if it can though, but it really does have to be a reallly really good game to pull it off)

There, I typed way too long, but can't be helped when explaining the crap out of a game and a sport.

Just think about this, what would most people prefer? Playing virtual soccor casually or religiously?  Now, how about a soccor fan? Casually or religiously?

Ok i see what you mean but i don't think i made myself quite clear but i'll make my proper point in just a second.

If it's realism people want, well i'm afraid playing games is not the right way to go about finding it i guess they should start learning about real life or go play the sims or something.  What i'm saying is it's a game it gets as real as the current technology and programmers are able to make it without losing playability (who would play any game if they had to wait ages to play again if they got injured? or quit if they got killed?)

Well that said i'll clear up the point i was trying to make in the first place i'm sorry if it wasn't too clear to start with.. My point it that you can't judge a game and call it 'lame' or say it's going to be rubbish before you have even tried it, those comments are unjust and pretty much just spam, i'm saying if you do want to say those things thats fine but wait till launch and after you have actually tried the game, here's an example for you just to show you what i mean;

Stargate Worlds and Star Trek Online are lame because they are based on t.v programs i'm not even going to try them because how can they be any good if they are based on shows? (thats an example im not saying that and f.y.i i do actually like Stargate)

Well thats me done now nothing left to say just don't knock it before you try it.

*Out*

Originally posted by Ishiot

Wow, seriously are you that narrow minded? You class it as corny because the simple fact its a 'sports MMO'? and you won't even give it a chance? sheet thats forked up on your part.

I say well done monumental for actually having the guts to stand up and try something new, and if all you 'haters' want to sit here and bit*ch about how lame 'sports MMO' games are or how lame football/soccer is then thats your problem, if you want to come here and read about the game then complain just show how much of a life you DON'T have .

 

Have fun

 

 

I name it Corny because its an obvious marketing ploy for advertisers & product sales.  I mean seriously a game that has real world marketed names like Puma involved?   Its a scheme...a good one granted and its obviously aimed at a tiny demographic that isnt' really an MMO market.  Nothing wrong with that but still corny as hell even current F2P games are less corny than that atleast they're aimed at the real MMO market not sports game lovers who honestly I dont' think will leave their couch to play a PC MMO game with a bunch of strangers instead of their friends.  
 

The last game that tried to do an MMO outside of the normal market was what was the name..hmm a game with demolition cars and where is it now?  Its dead thats where.  MMO games are either MMO FPS or MMO RPG or just an MMO World  but an MMO Sports game is just plain corny. 

BTW before you damn flame me again atleast take note of the fact I wished them luck and wasn't trying to be overly negative or say the game is going to fail in some epic manner just that the idea is damn corny which it is.   There are people who like sports games they just generally arent' PC Gamers to my knowledge.  SO why don't you go have fun and STFU and stop trying to play Censor Master.

I wished them luck and I am not trying to hate but I have my right on this board like anyone else to be skeptical of a game that uses real world consumer products to advertise in their game like Puma.  Seriously...fucking Puma? Whats next Nike?

This is a football:

This is a soccer ball:

A name change is in order.

That is all.

How is a name change in order?

Monumental is a European company so they have used the name we use here, Football not Soccer.

What you Americans call football over here we call it rugby but its man's sport over here we don't use no padding like you guys do, and why do you even call it football anyway? the ball is in somebodys hands for most of the game bit of a misleading name don't you think you should have called it padded up handball.

Originally posted by Zorvan

This is a football:

This is a soccer ball:

A name change is in order.

That is all.

Sorry, but just cause one country, steals names from other sports for their leasure, doesnt mean that the rest of the world have to change the name of their sports to fit the delusions of that one country.

As imaginative and creative as I am I see the immediate followup success to this MMO, that wil fit the current WoW crowd better: Fotball Hooligans Online

I couldn't agree more wolfman, well said ^_^

Tomas: LOL football hooligans online would be insane i loveed that game (storm over europe)

Why does it have to be an mmo? why not just another sports game with online multiplayer capability? And how will this be any different. Personally i find most sports really boring but thats just my opinion.I am glad theyre trying new things though, some creativity in the setting of mmos is good. I just dont see how this will work. It would be the same as making a racing sim online but  can see that working better than this honestly and it even sounds more fun.

I have just got into the beta testing and have to say the gameplay is pretty addictive. They have a good system in place that actually requires some skill to master. While stats do have their part to play it doesnt seem to be totally unbalancing. Level 1 players can still mix it up with level 20 players and do well. This is unlike most other grindfest MMORPG's that exist today where Level > Skill.

Originally posted by Neosai

A sports MMORPG?  I would hate to be the designer for that game.  It will be a nightmare to come up with ways to keep the gameplay interesting on a game, in a game, that is based on a game.

Sports are best played in real life, that is what I firmly believe (however, if you are disabled, then that is a different story). 

There are reasons why I don't ever buy sports game for any console, even though I completely wipe the floor with my friends when we do play one.  Winning in sports game brings me no joy btw, however, beating someone who bought the game does. LOL

Just thinking about a sports MMORPG have made my day.

You are correct,sports are best played in real life.Avid soccer fans may love there soccer,but do you think they would waste there pint/ale money on a video game?not i.I know and work with some REAL avid footballers and i know for a fact,they have zero interest in video games.

Like i said good luck,this game will be a tough sell,i mean we already have FIFA and EA has always been a leader in sports video games,so this will be a tough sell for sure.

Originally posted by _Sye_

Soccer is the MOST played sport in the WHOLE world... so for my fellow americans commenting on "soccer, bahhhh..." I urge you to look outside your little piece of land.

Bravo Bravo well said