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Originally posted by clamsd101
I don't see why people can get pissed at a game

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Internet Spaceships are serious bussines.

To the OP - this is one of the most boring MMOs on the market with one of the most condescending, arrogant and elitist communities that there are. You're better off out of it.

Originally posted by Rhoklaw

This game has been around for the better part of 5 years now. Basically, what should be considered safe areas are indeed not safe. Eve Online is by far one of the worst gankfest games ever made, which can be fun or frustrating. It's fun for those who are established, financially stable and well equipped. It's frustrating for anyone who's just starting out since theres players who have nothing better to do than blow your ships up any way they can.

I like PvP, but this game promotes severe ganking of new players by veteran players who have worse potty mouths than the Barren Chat in WoW. Eve is a great game, atleast the concept is, but with no safety net for new players, it already hit its subscription cap years ago.

By all means, feel free to give it a try on a trial account, but the game is full of gankers, scammers and anything you can think of to basically ruin your day. Since Eve is all about high risk vs. reward, it's next to impossible to even get anywhere as a new player.

All I'm saying is, play at your own risk, but from a veteran MMO player and PvP fan, this game is ridiculous and don't say I didn't warn you.

Lol @ your Xfire stats after that post.

Originally posted by Lydon

Originally posted by Rhoklaw
Stuff

Lol @ your Xfire stats after that post.

Eve is terrible! oh shi-

Originally posted by gracefield

To the OP - this is one of the most boring MMOs on the market with one of the most condescending, arrogant and elitist communities that there are. You're better off out of it.

I dunno, seems like we avoided the pleasure of your company, and are better off for it.

EVE is one of the most interesting MMO's on the market with one one of the most mature, helpful and intelligent commmunities that there are.  You are poorer for not being part of it.

Fixed that for you.

Look, clearly this game does offer its players something at the higher levels that they can't get in other games - or so you keep telling us - the problem with it is that for a lot players, it's so mind-numbingly repetitive and boring in the long early stages that they never get to the higher levels. This is a niche title - perhaps the best way to put it is, it's just not for everyone.

This game also offers a lot to players with far less experience than the old timers.  I avoid the use of the term levels as it is meaningless in EVE.

With far less investment in time than in any other MMO I have played I can participate in both solo and gang PvP, something I have been unable to do (effectively) in any other game, even with considerably moe time played.

IMO, EVE is the best MMO on the market today, and I have played most of the major ones, and a few minor ones as well.

Originally posted by Netspook

Thank you for proving the OP's point about the "potty mouth community". Doesn't make it tempting to try EVE, if this is the sort of community that awaits.

The Community is verry Good and Helpfull IF you want to put effort in to playing the game... There are player corps that will Hold your hand and teach you EVERY thing about PvP and playing the game. They ALL Turn Hostile if you Bitch that there isent any way to catch up and fly a titan in 3 months So this game must suck.

If you want to be welcomed by the comunity ACT LIKE IT.. There are people that have been playing since launch... and you have a fair chance at killing them with only a few friends. Rember Numbers and Teamwork Win battles in Eve Not your Uber leet 50M sp Char.

I'm back to playing now that I've eliminated the problem if can flippers. Actually switched to doing missions today for a break from mining and that went pretty well except for the bugged mission which is going to cause me a faction hit, but oh well.

I still stand by what I say because it happened to me. I'm only here to state that Eve Online is not new player friendly and please stop telling people with less than 1 million skill points that they can kill people with 10+ million skill points cause thats a flat out lie, lol.

Originally posted by Rhoklaw

I still stand by what I say because it happened to me. I'm only here to state that Eve Online is not new player friendly and please stop telling people with less than 1 million skill points that they can kill people with 10+ million skill points cause thats a flat out lie, lol.

Hey, whatever you say, I'm sure you'd know.

What I know is, my char with 8 mil SP was flying a very well fit frigate (all T2 weapons and mods, faction ammo, excellent support skills) and I lost it to a 2 week old player in a cruiser who had a great counter to my frigate.  He went half into structure, but my  frig was the one that ended up popping.

So, ya never know what's possible until you try.

Originally posted by batolemaeus

 

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Originally posted by clamsd101
I don't see why people can get pissed at a game

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Internet Spaceships are serious bussines.

It all comes down to an investment of time.  Effort expended in any pursuit has some potential value (although some pursuits are more valued than others, obviously).  Having invested 42 hours in the acquisition of Object X (whether it be real or virtual), one ordinarily finds oneself put out a bit if Object X is stolen or lost due to malfeasance.  It's human nature.  Even when Object X is some virtual object in a game, the feeling of loss is there because of a feeling of "time wasted."  (Of course, the object is to "waste time" in the first place, since the hours invested are presumably leisure time.  If they're not leisure time...well, you do the math.)

Originally posted by mrprogguy

Originally posted by batolemaeus

 

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Originally posted by clamsd101
I don't see why people can get pissed at a game

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Internet Spaceships are serious bussines.

 

It all comes down to an investment of time.  Effort expended in any pursuit has some potential value (although some pursuits are more valued than others, obviously).  Having invested 42 hours in the acquisition of Object X (whether it be real or virtual), one ordinarily finds oneself put out a bit if Object X is stolen or lost due to malfeasance.  It's human nature.  Even when Object X is some virtual object in a game, the feeling of loss is there because of a feeling of "time wasted."  (Of course, the object is to "waste time" in the first place, since the hours invested are presumably leisure time.  If they're not leisure time...well, you do the math.)

Which is why Eve players are tought, only fly what you are willing to loose. If something takes you more than 2-3 hours to build up - you really shouldn't be flying it in the first place. If you spent 200m per implant in your head, you really should invest in jump clones. Simple as that.

People are not used MMOs where the actions you take have a consequence. In fact, people for the most part today do not understand what consequences are. In Eve, preparaion is key since it is a form of strategy game. In prepaaration, you have many chances to think and rethink your actions. A new player taking their chances in a Badger II through a low sec system even though there have been no pod kills recently is foolish. But - it happens all the time and people don't want to accept blame for their actions and post on the forums saying how its Eve's fault.

Originally posted by Rhoklaw

I still stand by what I say because it happened to me. I'm only here to state that Eve Online is not new player friendly and please stop telling people with less than 1 million skill points that they can kill people with 10+ million skill points cause thats a flat out lie, lol.

why should we listen to a self confessed carebear? there are countless examples of people doing exactly this, for example, when my alt can fly amarr recons she will have about 5 million skillpoints, by your logic my pilgrim wont be able to kill anyone...

in fact the pilgrim is a lovely boat that can take out battleships.

It all depends on your limitations while playing eve.

Next is actually knowing those limitations and pushing them, to learn just how far they go.

I have under 2million sp.

I don't go past 0.4 space. I cant afford to lose my ships right now.

I spend all my cash on blueprints and new books, while i make all my missiles and other needed ship items.

I'm a solo player at the moment.

Am i a carebear hell no, but I'm not stupid either. Sure i can pvp probably just fine. I make my frigz and my launchers and rail guns and ammo.

I own all the cruisers and destroyer and all the frigs i can build my self as I've stated.

But its not consistent, I've trained heavy into learning so I'm lacking in many things.

But a lvl 5 frig is only 8-9 days to train from zero

I've been pked once and lost a missile cruiser. in .03 space.

So there are my limits till i get done training my select skills to maintain that playstyle.

Know your limits and have goals and you'll do good in eve.

Build a foundation thats strong and it doesn't matter how many times you get toppled. your able to support the losses you could make.

This is very important for a solo player like myself, till i get into a good facilitated corp.

Its not that tough to pvp.

warp scramble, vamp and fire away and loot.

I know my limits.

Now learn yours, and you'll have nothing to bawl about.

Also you know there are EVE official forums right?

Good luck with the "poor me" convention.
 

Originally posted by Xennith 

a self confessed carebear

Why I have tried to avoid Eve like the plague. The community is terrible when it comes to the "hierarchy" of things. Fighters think they're so much more "leet" than miners etc.

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Originally posted by Lydon

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Originally posted by Xennith a self confessed carebear

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Why I have tried to avoid Eve like the plague. The community is terrible when it comes to the "hierarchy" of things. Fighters think they're so much more "leet" than miners etc.
 

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you are mistaken. The above comment is about a carebear saying absolute truths about PvP. As such it is fair to disparage his view.

Sure there are some scumbags in the community, but every PvPer like that carebears make the stuff they get blown up. most will begrudgingly admit that they are an important part of the game. (and a juicy target)

If you judge a game by the squeaky wheels then every single game in the universe will always suck.

Originally posted by nurgles 

you are mistaken. The above comment is about a carebear saying absolute truths about PvP. As such it is fair to disparage his view.

Sure there are some scumbags in the community, but every PvPer like that carebears make the stuff they get blown up. most will begrudgingly admit that they are an important part of the game. (and a juicy target)

If you judge a game by the squeaky wheels then every single game in the universe will always suck.

The very fact that said people are refered to as "carebears" speaks much.

Originally posted by Rhoklaw

I'm back to playing now that I've eliminated the problem if can flippers. Actually switched to doing missions today for a break from mining and that went pretty well except for the bugged mission which is going to cause me a faction hit, but oh well.

I still stand by what I say because it happened to me. I'm only here to state that Eve Online is not new player friendly and please stop telling people with less than 1 million skill points that they can kill people with 10+ million skill points cause thats a flat out lie, lol.

With less then !m SP?

Ofcourse they can kill people.

But is anyone saying it is easy, that they should expect to just log in/start the game and kill everything they see? Nooone is saying that
To be honest why would they be able to do that, and also if they can't do that have nothing to do with if the game is newb friendly or not.

Originally posted by Lydon

Originally posted by nurgles 

you are mistaken. The above comment is about a carebear saying absolute truths about PvP. As such it is fair to disparage his view.

Sure there are some scumbags in the community, but every PvPer like that carebears make the stuff they get blown up. most will begrudgingly admit that they are an important part of the game. (and a juicy target)

If you judge a game by the squeaky wheels then every single game in the universe will always suck.

The very fact that said people are refered to as "carebears" speaks much.

Are you really offended if someone calls out someone to be a "carebear" when they supposedly whine about not being the pwn machinel fresh from start? Doesn't matter what game it is.

I could find a more offensive and more fitting word myself though.

Originally posted by Orphes

Originally posted by Lydon

Originally posted by nurgles 

you are mistaken. The above comment is about a carebear saying absolute truths about PvP. As such it is fair to disparage his view.

Sure there are some scumbags in the community, but every PvPer like that carebears make the stuff they get blown up. most will begrudgingly admit that they are an important part of the game. (and a juicy target)

If you judge a game by the squeaky wheels then every single game in the universe will always suck.

The very fact that said people are refered to as "carebears" speaks much.

 

Are you really offended if someone calls out someone to be a "carebear" when they supposedly whine about not being the pwn machinel fresh from start? Doesn't matter what game it is.

I could find a more offensive and more fitting word myself though.

I wasn't talking about a specific person calling another specific person that. I'm talking about in general. It's just pointless and something I can't stand about the Eve community.