More comments from the official forums, and Smed said this TCG was "well received", sheesh:

TITLE: The TCG betrayal isnt gonna happen with Player Housing too, right?

Kennobi:

They will make more money adding them into the TCG and having people buy boosters to get them so most likely all new stuff will be added as loot cards in the TCG, they really don't care about what we think as long as we'll keep paying and people keep buying booster packs.

ArchRafael:

running a business... into the ground

there are alot of reasons this TCG is not nessecarily good business.

If they are playing slash-n-burn, getting what extra change they can before this ship cracks at the keel and goes under, then fine, its "good business".

For the long-term health of SWG this TCG is very , very bad.

Business is strategy. SWG started out as a game geared for pretty intellectual, high-end , long-term player. SOE keeps moving towards stupider and stupider playstyles. Instant graification, shortcuts and smipler game systems.

So if SOE plans to let the game die, then yes this a good strategy to maximize profit on the way out.

Celaro:

It's not so much about the items. It's more about the way these items are being put into the game and not accessable to everyone(other than getting very lucky once a month, or gambling by buying these retarded booster packs). We all pay the same monthly fees. Some more than others by multiple accounts. Yet SOE feels the need to introduce brand new items in a way very few people can get them without having to spend a ridiculous amount of REAL LIFE money.

The fact that new items for this game come from a game that is only loosely based on SWG is, at least to me, insulting. SWG items should come from SWG content. TCG cards should stay in the TCG and only in the TCG.

Therealmacoys:

the only way to get new content is to spend more money

wow thats crooked

Plenty more where that came from, until it gets deleted. Most of the threads I have cut/pasted from do not last long. Most are not even locked anymore. The Mods there are violating their own rules over this stuff, because "loot cards", as ingame items, are legitimate topics for "gameplay discussion."

"Well received" indeed.

Originally posted by Burntvet

More comments from the official forums, and Smed said this TCG was "well received", sheesh:

 

TITLE: The TCG betrayal isnt gonna happen with Player Housing too, right?

Kennobi:

They will make more money adding them into the TCG and having people buy boosters to get them so most likely all new stuff will be added as loot cards in the TCG, they really don't care about what we think as long as we'll keep paying and people keep buying booster packs.

ArchRafael:

running a business... into the ground

there are alot of reasons this TCG is not nessecarily good business.

If they are playing slash-n-burn, getting what extra change they can before this ship cracks at the keel and goes under, then fine, its "good business".

For the long-term health of SWG this TCG is very , very bad.

Business is strategy. SWG started out as a game geared for pretty intellectual, high-end , long-term player. SOE keeps moving towards stupider and stupider playstyles. Instant graification, shortcuts and smipler game systems.

So if SOE plans to let the game die, then yes this a good strategy to maximize profit on the way out.

 

Celaro:

It's not so much about the items. It's more about the way these items are being put into the game and not accessable to everyone(other than getting very lucky once a month, or gambling by buying these retarded booster packs). We all pay the same monthly fees. Some more than others by multiple accounts. Yet SOE feels the need to introduce brand new items in a way very few people can get them without having to spend a ridiculous amount of REAL LIFE money.

The fact that new items for this game come from a game that is only loosely based on SWG is, at least to me, insulting. SWG items should come from SWG content. TCG cards should stay in the TCG and only in the TCG.

 

Therealmacoys:

the only way to get new content is to spend more money

wow thats crooked

 

Plenty more where that came from, until it gets deleted. Most of the threads I have cut/pasted from do not last long. "Well received" indeed.

 

 

 

 

Smed et al. also said that the NGE was well received, as the account management server allegedly crashed from being overwhelmed by cancellations, and the mods couldn't find the delete button on complaint threads fast enough.
 

Also, another common theme is that the (CU, NGE, TCG...insert bad idea here) is needed to "save the game."

How come everytime players get the shaft in this particular MMO, someone comes along and says it was necessary to save the game?  All of the efforts to "save" SWG remind me of a guy trying to fix a cracked window with a hammer.

Originally posted by xaldraxius

 

Things are different now than they have been before. The game has suffered a lot since 2005 and admittedly has kept going despite many people figuring it would get closed, but now the franchise has been sold and a new Star Wars MMO is on the horizon. They will have zero chance of gaining new players once there is another Star Wars game out there. They are desperate at this point.
 

Save your "predictions" about SWG's imminent demise for the Veteran's refuge. This thread is about the TCG.

S

Originally posted by Sharkypal

Originally posted by xaldraxius

 Things are different now than they have been before. The game has suffered a lot since 2005 and admittedly has kept going despite many people figuring it would get closed, but now the franchise has been sold and a new Star Wars MMO is on the horizon. They will have zero chance of gaining new players once there is another Star Wars game out there. They are desperate at this point.

 Save your "predictions" about SWG's imminent demise for the Veteran's refuge. This thread is about the TCG.

S

Looks to me like this thread is about the game's dying throes, and SOE's attempted manipulation of the TCG to leech as much money out of it as possible. Predictions of the game's future while discussing these things seems perfectly normal to me.

Shit man, this stuff is crazy, I think the only company left who is doing mmorpg with long term vision is ccp ...

After 2 breaks, a dozen other games, I came full circle and realized CCP and EvE Online is the only long term mmorpg out there, everything else is about short term gain, and to me that is the exact opposite to what an mmorpg should be.

I'll have to live with the slow paced combat system and the time based skilltraining I guess, cause nothing else out there is worth my cash, let alone my time and emotional investment.

Greetz

Originally posted by Aethios

Originally posted by Sharkypal

Originally posted by xaldraxius

 Things are different now than they have been before. The game has suffered a lot since 2005 and admittedly has kept going despite many people figuring it would get closed, but now the franchise has been sold and a new Star Wars MMO is on the horizon. They will have zero chance of gaining new players once there is another Star Wars game out there. They are desperate at this point.

 Save your "predictions" about SWG's imminent demise for the Veteran's refuge. This thread is about the TCG.

S

 

Looks to me like this thread is about the game's dying throes, and SOE's attempted manipulation of the TCG to leech as much money out of it as possible. Predictions of the game's future while discussing these things seems perfectly normal to me.

No its not, its about the TCG. If you'd like to make predictions about SWG's demise, there are have been threads pertaining to that in the Veteran's refuge since 2005.

Some people dont realise that there are games with lower populations that are still around. There is no reason to believe that SWG wont be around for a least another 3 or 4 years.

Some people think SW:TOR will kill SWG, I dont believe that either. It will certainly entice a good part of the SWG player base to try it but since they are so different in terms of type of game, I really dont see it "killing" SWG.

The NGE didnt kill SWG outright (although it was a damn good try), so I dont think anything else will.

S

Its a trading card game. Trading card. You may be paying a monthly service to SWG...but you opt to play the TCG. And just like regular trading cards..people dump shitloads of money into many packs or boxes of packs...in hopes to get that one rookie card or hologram that they want.  Its not gambling...other wise the various lottery commissions would be all over Fleer or Topps or whoever makes TCs these days. Cause we all know what price some of those rare card-types can fetch. Not to mention the same for other TCG like Magic the gathering. 

Its also funny how a "dead" game has so much life on the forums.

Originally posted by BarCrow

Its a trading card game. Trading card. You may be paying a monthly service to SWG...but you opt to play the TCG. And just like regular trading cards..people dump shitloads of money into many packs or boxes of packs...in hopes to get that one rookie card or hologram that they want.  Its not gambling...other wise the various lottery commissions would be all over Fleer or Topps or whoever makes TCs these days. Cause we all know what price some of those rare card-types can fetch. Not to mention the same for other TCG like Magic the gathering. 

 

 

Its also funny how a "dead" game has so much life on the forums.

Comparing the loot card lottery to other trading card game misses some important differences.  The most obvious is that the loot cards aren't actually part of the trading card game.  They are dangled perks for the MMO.  SOE dangles them, and people who play the MMO are enticed to gamble for them.  There's nothing like this in the trading card games you mention. 

Also, people are already paying a subscription fee for the MMO, but now they need to gamble for loot cards to get the fastest vehicle, or to obtain additional buffs to combat statistics.  So, even though they're paying a subscription fee, they become less competitive and cannot obtain collectibles without playing the lottery.

Also, these are virtual, not actual, cards.  So you pay money to gamble for them, and even if you win, you actually own--nothing.  Furthermore the rarity of desirable "cards" can be manipulated by SOE at any time, at their sole discretion.

These issues don't apply to the actual trading card games on the market today.  SOE is charting new territory here in a number of ways.

Re. life on the forums, SOE seems to have a way of managing this game that goes from one controversy to the next.  From a broken and dissappointing release, to a number of unwanted revamps, to allegations of bait and switch and massive refunds, to a loot card lottery system, SOE has taken an internationally known IP and dragged it through the mud for years.  This seems to hold people's attention.  Also, many former players have had the progress and game they enjoyed removed or altered beyond recognition.  All that remains is to discuss the latest scandal and ponder what might have been.

Originally posted by ArcAngel3

Originally posted by BarCrow

Its a trading card game. Trading card. You may be paying a monthly service to SWG...but you opt to play the TCG. And just like regular trading cards..people dump shitloads of money into many packs or boxes of packs...in hopes to get that one rookie card or hologram that they want.  Its not gambling...other wise the various lottery commissions would be all over Fleer or Topps or whoever makes TCs these days. Cause we all know what price some of those rare card-types can fetch. Not to mention the same for other TCG like Magic the gathering. 

 

 

Its also funny how a "dead" game has so much life on the forums.

 

Comparing the loot card lottery to other trading card game misses some important differences.  The most obvious is that the loot cards aren't actually part of the trading card game.  They are dangled perks for the MMO.  SOE dangles them, and people who play the MMO are enticed to gamble for them.  There's nothing like this in the trading card games you mention. 

Also, people are already paying a subscription fee for the MMO, but now they need to gamble for loot cards to get the fastest vehicle, or to obtain additional buffs to combat statistics.  So, even though they're paying a subscription fee, they become less competitive and cannot obtain collectibles without playing the lottery.

Also, these are virtual, not actual, cards.  So you pay money to gamble for them, and even if you win, you actually own--nothing.  Furthermore the rarity of desirable "cards" can be manipulated by SOE at any time, at their sole discretion.

These issues don't apply to the actual trading card games on the market today.  SOE is charting new territory here in a number of ways.

Re. life on the forums, SOE seems to have a way of managing this game that goes from one controversy to the next.  From a broken and dissappointing release, to a number of unwanted revamps, to allegations of bait and switch and massive refunds, to a loot card lottery system, SOE has taken an internationally known IP and dragged it through the mud for years.  This seems to hold people's attention.  Also, many former players have had the progress and game they enjoyed removed or altered beyond recognition.  All that remains is to discuss the latest scandal and ponder what might have been.

nah, there is lots of discussion on the forums outside of the usual SOE bashing. No, its not cool to like SWG and people pretend to not like it while playing every day. Its funny, tbh :)

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Originally posted by Sharkypal

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Originally posted by Aethios

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Originally posted by Sharkypal

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Originally posted by xaldraxius

 Things are different now than they have been before. The game has suffered a lot since 2005 and admittedly has kept going despite many people figuring it would get closed, but now the franchise has been sold and a new Star Wars MMO is on the horizon. They will have zero chance of gaining new players once there is another Star Wars game out there. They are desperate at this point.

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 Save your "predictions" about SWG's imminent demise for the Veteran's refuge. This thread is about the TCG.
S

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Looks to me like this thread is about the game's dying throes, and SOE's attempted manipulation of the TCG to leech as much money out of it as possible. Predictions of the game's future while discussing these things seems perfectly normal to me.

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No its not, its about the TCG. If you'd like to make predictions about SWG's demise, there are have been threads pertaining to that in the Veteran's refuge since 2005.
Some people dont realise that there are games with lower populations that are still around. There is no reason to believe that SWG wont be around for a least another 3 or 4 years.
Some people think SW:TOR will kill SWG, I dont believe that either. It will certainly entice a good part of the SWG player base to try it but since they are so different in terms of type of game, I really dont see it "killing" SWG.
The NGE didnt kill SWG outright (although it was a damn good try), so I dont think anything else will.
S

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I am, and was talking about the financial reasoning behind the TCG, which is completely on topic.

XD

I'm not going to debate the merits or detrimental quality of this loot system via card game.  People have already debated that enough.  Nor am I going to debate whether it is legal gambling, illegal gambling, or not gambling.  I think we all know what it is.

What I am going to talk about is how clear it all seems now: why crafting had to die, why decay had to die, why loot and non-trade had to be mandated.  It isn't the reasons wew were given by Rubenfield, Smed, and Torres.  It was because you can't do the sort of crazy promotional stunts SOE did with the old Pre-CU game.

But answer me this, fanbois.  How do vet rewards add to the game?  How do pre-order items and free items in expansions add to the game?  How do these loot cards add to the game?

They don't add anything to the game, but not because they aren't good items that are desirable.  They don't add anything to the game because you don't even have to play to get them, you only have to pay.

Now of course, that's the intent.  They offer these neat things like the AT walker and the holograms to get people to buy the products and services they want the players to buy.  It works.  Nobody is denying that, but how much better would the game be if these items were crafted or quested for, rather than simply given for a pricetag?  In short, these items are expensive, but the very expense of these things belies a "cheap" game: one that has to rely on promotional gimmicks to survive rather than a good experience.

Now I know full well that SOE is a business and making money is important.  But nobody ever became important in business without having a vision about something more than money.  What does SOE want MMOs to look like in the next ten years?  Is it someplace you'd want to be with rich gameplay, immersiveness, and depth?  Or is it going to be an endless array of promotional stunts and gimmicks to get more money out of you, like the casinos do, but without all the cheap drinks, girlys, and ambiance of a real casino?

From what I've read in this thread it seems obvious to me that SWG is now an open alpha test for the Agency ...... and you're paying a subscription for it too! The people left playing SWG have taken so much BS in the past, like a wife that's been abused over several years by a violent husband, what difference does another beating make?

There are so few left playing SWG that Smedley is just using it as a testing ground for future "enterprises" now. He's crazy about micro transactions but realizes that western audiences dislike this method of payment as it is so easily abused by both unscrupolous players and companies alike. So perhaps this is his method of weening the western playerbase onto the micro transaction system he's been trying so hard to sell us for years?

Obraik you defend your beligerent partner eloquently however, you're paying money not for an item, but for the hope of getting an item. The more times you purchase that hope, the higher your chances increase in getting it. You don't have to pay, you can get these packs for free ingame, but isn't that just a method of getting your hopes up so that Smedley can draw you into his scam?

I understand some refuse to buy these packs, but isn't it unfair to put this in a game with children, and disguise it as a fun side game to play for free inorder to lure them to the cash shop? Also let's be honest even SOE believes the mental age of the NGE target audience to be lower than your average MMO gamer "there was too much reading", "They want more kill/loot/repeat".

Also all the time you're paying SOE to run a tiny Dev team of amatuers to patch in old content as new and they have the front to ask you to pay more money in the hope of getting it!

SWG is a dying animal and Smed is now testing it in his lab of evil fleecing scams in preperation for the Agency. Any crazy idea that normally would get an executive or lead developer fired for suggesting is now tested out on the remenants of SWG. There is one question I'd like to ask Obraik and those that defend this method of trying to squeeze blood from a stone, is this TGC "Starwarsy"? I mean let's be serious, Chewbacca wastes a stormtrooper and Han shouts "Chewie check to see if he has any playing cards in his belt!". Then back on the Falcon they can't jump to Hyperspace and Liea shouts "Han give me the pack of cards!", opens them up and Han screams "Yeeee hhhhaaaa we just got a new hyperdrive, this could really save our necks!". Or how about when they were checking out Anekin "What are you doing?", "I'm checking your blood for Micro transactions", "Micro transactions? What are they?", "They are what give Jedi the power of the force, buffs and sexy pod racers!".

The previous statment is only my own opinion and is in now way to be taken as fact,

Agricola.

Originally posted by Agricola1

From what I've read in this thread it seems obvious to me that SWG is now an open alpha test for the Agency ...... and you're paying a subscription for it too! The people left playing SWG have taken so much BS in the past, like a wife that's been abused over several years by a violent husband, what difference does another beating make?

There are so few left playing SWG that Smedley is just using it as a testing ground for future "enterprises" now. He's crazy about micro transactions but realizes that western audiences dislike this method of payment as it is so easily abused by both unscrupolous players and companies alike. So perhaps this is his method of weening the western playerbase onto the micro transaction system he's been trying so hard to sell us for years?

Obraik you defend your beligerent partner eloquently however, you're paying money not for an item, but for the hope of getting an item. The more times you purchase that hope, the higher your chances increase in getting it. You don't have to pay, you can get these packs for free ingame, but isn't that just a method of getting your hopes up so that Smedley can draw you into his scam?

I understand some refuse to buy these packs, but isn't it unfair to put this in a game with children, and disguise it as a fun side game to play for free inorder to lure them to the cash shop? Also let's be honest even SOE believes the mental age of the NGE target audience to be lower than your average MMO gamer "there was too much reading", "They want more kill/loot/repeat".

Also all the time you're paying SOE to run a tiny Dev team of amatuers to patch in old content as new and they have the front to ask you to pay more money in the hope of getting it!

SWG is a dying animal and Smed is now testing it in his lab of evil fleecing scams in preperation for the Agency. Any crazy idea that normally would get an executive or lead developer fired for suggesting is now tested out on the remenants of SWG. There is one question I'd like to ask Obraik and those that defend this method of trying to squeeze blood from a stone, is this TGC "Starwarsy"? I mean let's be serious, Chewbacca wastes a stormtrooper and Han shouts "Chewie check to see if he has any playing cards in his belt!". Then back on the Falcon they can't jump to Hyperspace and Liea shouts "Han give me the pack of cards!", opens them up and Han screams "Yeeee hhhhaaaa we just got a new hyperdrive, this could really save our necks!". Or how about when they were checking out Anekin "What are you doing?", "I'm checking your blood for Micro transactions", "Micro transactions? What are they?", "They are what give Jedi the power of the force, buffs and sexy pod racers!".

The previous statment is only my own opinion and is in now way to be taken as fact,

Agricola.

TCG's are very commonplace and have been for years, christ I remember football TCG's from 30 years ago and i know there were predecessors of this around in the 1950's. It's nothing new, companies have been doing it for decades in one form or another. Sure they are aimed at kids, they have always been aimed at kids, but so are gobstoppers and ice-cream, whats the problem?

Get off your high-horse and open your eyes to the world around you, it's been that way for years and it will always be that way, QQing at SoE for doing what others already do is ludicrous. There is obviously a market for it, if there wasn't then no-one would pay. Basic supply and demand economics for gods sake.

You don't like it or disagree with the ethics, then protest by not buying into it. Thats all you can do.

Originally posted by Zinzan

Originally posted by Agricola1

From what I've read in this thread it seems obvious to me that SWG is now an open alpha test for the Agency ...... and you're paying a subscription for it too! The people left playing SWG have taken so much BS in the past, like a wife that's been abused over several years by a violent husband, what difference does another beating make?

There are so few left playing SWG that Smedley is just using it as a testing ground for future "enterprises" now. He's crazy about micro transactions but realizes that western audiences dislike this method of payment as it is so easily abused by both unscrupolous players and companies alike. So perhaps this is his method of weening the western playerbase onto the micro transaction system he's been trying so hard to sell us for years?

Obraik you defend your beligerent partner eloquently however, you're paying money not for an item, but for the hope of getting an item. The more times you purchase that hope, the higher your chances increase in getting it. You don't have to pay, you can get these packs for free ingame, but isn't that just a method of getting your hopes up so that Smedley can draw you into his scam?

I understand some refuse to buy these packs, but isn't it unfair to put this in a game with children, and disguise it as a fun side game to play for free inorder to lure them to the cash shop? Also let's be honest even SOE believes the mental age of the NGE target audience to be lower than your average MMO gamer "there was too much reading", "They want more kill/loot/repeat".

Also all the time you're paying SOE to run a tiny Dev team of amatuers to patch in old content as new and they have the front to ask you to pay more money in the hope of getting it!

SWG is a dying animal and Smed is now testing it in his lab of evil fleecing scams in preperation for the Agency. Any crazy idea that normally would get an executive or lead developer fired for suggesting is now tested out on the remenants of SWG. There is one question I'd like to ask Obraik and those that defend this method of trying to squeeze blood from a stone, is this TGC "Starwarsy"? I mean let's be serious, Chewbacca wastes a stormtrooper and Han shouts "Chewie check to see if he has any playing cards in his belt!". Then back on the Falcon they can't jump to Hyperspace and Liea shouts "Han give me the pack of cards!", opens them up and Han screams "Yeeee hhhhaaaa we just got a new hyperdrive, this could really save our necks!". Or how about when they were checking out Anekin "What are you doing?", "I'm checking your blood for Micro transactions", "Micro transactions? What are they?", "They are what give Jedi the power of the force, buffs and sexy pod racers!".

The previous statment is only my own opinion and is in now way to be taken as fact,

Agricola.

 

TCG's are very commonplace and have been for years, christ I remember football TCG's from 30 years ago and i know there were predecessors of this around in the 1950's. It's nothing new, companies have been doing it for decades in one form or another. Sure they are aimed at kids, they have always been aimed at kids, but so are gobstoppers and ice-cream, whats the problem?

Get off your high-horse and open your eyes to the world around you, it's been that way for years and it will always be that way, QQing at SoE for doing what others already do is ludicrous. There is obviously a market for it, if there wasn't then no-one would pay. Basic supply and demand economics for gods sake.

You don't like it or disagree with the ethics, then protest by not buying into it. Thats all you can do.

Well, that's fine and all, and I am not disagreeing. But so far, the state lottery commisions of 7 US states have disageed. That is why TCG card tournament entrants are not allow from various US states with more on the way. Why? Because you pay an entry fee, and "play" for prizes. Were this Texas Holdem, no one would argue it is gambling. The game is different, in this case, but not the mechanics, behind hiding behind the figleaf of a TCG and virtual property.

Also why non-US residents can not participate. SOE's lawyers told them not to allow it.

Originally posted by kobie173

Originally posted by Daffid011

Originally posted by Obraik 

Well, it just makes sense :P  I can't understand why a company should be forced to provide a reward to someone who doesn't even support their product.  With "no purchase necessary" someone that's a fan of Pepsi and never buys Coke could enter the promotion - that makes no sense to me.

 

It also has something to do with requiring people to spend money on a product to have the chance to win a prize, which in essence is a lottery.  Imagine if you will any company can sell a paperclip for $1.00, but you get the chance to win 1 million dollars.  

I know I am missing the real meat of the reason this was put into law, but the general idea is that it is bad to require people to pay for something in order to have a chance to win something.

 

Ah, you are using the term "required," which is wrong. You get 5 free packs of cards each month. You are paying extra for more packs, i.e. more chances at the prize. But you are certainly not "required" to do so to play SWG, or to have at least some chance at the prize.

We were talking about the "no purchase necessary laws", but I see you missed the point of the discussion as usual. 

The five "free" card packs aren't free, since you need to buy a subscription.

Not only that, but you can't compare these "cards" to Magic: The Gathering cards, because they aren't really "cards" at all.  Collectors cards are owned, placed in a shoebox, and have a resale value long after they are printed.  These virtual cards have none of those properties.  They are virtual items that can be taken away, modified, or deleted at the will of the provider.  The owner doesn't own them in any true sense.  Once the game goes belly up, the ruse is over.

Originally posted by Beatnik59

The five "free" card packs aren't free, since you need to buy a subscription.

Not only that, but you can't compare these "cards" to Magic: The Gathering cards, because they aren't really "cards" at all.  Collectors cards are owned, placed in a shoebox, and have a resale value long after they are printed.  These virtual cards have none of those properties.  They are virtual items that can be taken away, modified, or deleted at the will of the provider.  The owner doesn't own them in any true sense.  Once the game goes belly up, the ruse is over.

Actually, you can compare the two.
Why?
Because magic the gathering has an online version too of course.

Originally posted by Thekandy

Originally posted by Beatnik59

The five "free" card packs aren't free, since you need to buy a subscription.

Not only that, but you can't compare these "cards" to Magic: The Gathering cards, because they aren't really "cards" at all.  Collectors cards are owned, placed in a shoebox, and have a resale value long after they are printed.  These virtual cards have none of those properties.  They are virtual items that can be taken away, modified, or deleted at the will of the provider.  The owner doesn't own them in any true sense.  Once the game goes belly up, the ruse is over.

 

Actually, you can compare the two.
Why?
Because magic the gathering has an online version too of course.

Still can't compare the two, because Star Wars Galaxies TCG doesn't have a physical counterpart.

Not that the physical counterpart would sell, because I suspect that SOE knows that the only reason people are bothering with the TDC is for the loot cards.

Originally posted by Burntvet

 

Some of we "Vets" saw the implementation of the TCG as a "backdoor" RMT and called SOE on it. Looks like they are opening the front door....

This is from the official SOE site....

 

The Star Wars Galaxies Dodonna Tournament Pack is now available at the Station Store for a limited time. Just $10.00 USD (plus applicable taxes) gets you this pack, which contains the following:

One (1) Jan Dodonna (1P3) promo card
One Ewok Vendor (1SWGP5) loot card
Three (3) Star Wars Galaxies Trading Card Game: Champions of the Force booster packs

 

We said the TCG = RMT . What else is this then? Add to this the fact that SOE has said it is acceptable to trade booster packs for in-game credits, and you have SOE-sponsored credit selling too, only with SOE pocketing the real cash.

For all the people that shouted down the "vets" as whatever, all I have to say is SWG-NGE\RMT is here. It has begun.....

UPDATE.....

• New Loot Cards – More than 20 new Loot Cards will be available, including the V-wing Starfighter and a powerful buff, the Sanyassan Skull, that can be redeemed with an active account* in the Star Wars Galaxies MMO.

 

Pay SOE more money, get an advantage. Yeah, we vets didn't know what we were talking about or what was coming.....

 

 

 Ummm I'd say it didn't take a Vet to know this. All your good ol boy backslapping is just making you look silly. If you want to prove that SWG Vets are somehow better then everyone else do something worthwhile like cure cancer or something already instead of parading around like some kinda self important asshat.
 

Originally posted by winter

 Ummm I'd say it didn't take a Vet to know this. All your good ol boy backslapping is just making you look silly. If you want to prove that SWG Vets are somehow better then everyone else do something worthwhile like cure cancer or something already instead of parading around like some kinda self important asshat. 

Well I don't think anyone could be much more upset about what happened to SWG than *I* am...

But imho you pretty much hit the target dead on.

I mean just the way its presented... SWG Vets aka people who had their game ruined.. but also as if its unique to SWG or that SOE randomly decided to come into the remains of SWG for a money grab.

Forget the fact that the TCG was implemented in EQ1 and EQ2 before it was added to SWG.  Forget the fact it was implemented in the exact same manner.. with the exact same issues.

It obviously would take a SWG "vet" to have the future seeing powers to know this was coming or what would happen.  Because no one that plays EQ1 and/or EQ2 would already know.

Right down to the claims about moving resources from SWG to create this..

I mean that Denver studio that was set up a couple years ago to do TCG's exclusively... was just a myth.

I honestly don't think I can even relate to people who call themselves "swg vets" anymore.. or at least many of them.. even tho I played the game and miss it a lot.. because now it seems to enter a realm that requires medication to leave..