It seems a lot of people who might like to try this game are put off by the fact that it would be very difficult or near impossible to catch up to existing players in EVE.  I'm wondering if the devs have ever considered opening up a fresh start server where everyone would start off on equal ground, especially now that so many fixes and updates have been introduced since launch.

Nice, another one...

Originally posted by batolemaeus

Nice, another one...

At the risk of being flamed with attitude, what exactly are you saying?  I'm just asking a simple question.

Short end a new server has been discussed at length multiple times. The end result is always the same, its not only not nessicary it will severly hurt the game.  Eve really does not take that long to get into as is often portrayed by people that don't think outside the box

OP,

Fresh start, yes I am with you. This game needs a total revamp since they are taking away ghost training and introducing avatar's running around the space ternimals. They could actually bring this game full circle from launch! I never hated EVE but thought it lacked something(spaceship only). Yes the reason I quit over and over is it always felt like you where behind the learning curve! Older players always will not help you cause your newbie cause you only played for 2+ years! This game needs frebreez!

Originally posted by ganbee

OP,

Fresh start, yes I am with you. This game needs a total revamp since they are taking away ghost training and introducing avatar's running around the space ternimals. They could actually bring this game full circle from launch! I never hated EVE but thought it lacked something(spaceship only). Yes the reason I quit over and over is it always felt like you where behind the learning curve! Older players always will not help you cause your newbie cause you only played for 2+ years! This game needs frebreez!

 

hate to tell you but ghost training was the stupidest thing ever and am glad its gone. The problem is that people are confusing not being able to train when your account expires, which was retarded to begin with, with the ability to train while off-line which is not going away. If you were ghost training you weren't playing to begin with and your needs are really not that important

ok, for one thing, ghost training only REALLY effects people alts, for two, there are acctualy some core skills that once learned will make you a very viable character in pvp. You dont need 4 years in game to compete with people that have 4 years in game, 3-6 months and your there. EVE is great, more time in game just means your good at more stuff, but in 6 months you can have a very good specialized character.

Originally posted by ianicus

ok, for one thing, ghost training only REALLY effects people alts that they aren't using in any capacity,

small edit: I f you were using your alts for anything you had them all active all the time anyway

Nicoli ,

I am confused by that reply? You are saying ghost training is still possible if your account is still active? Just inactive account's cannot ghost train?

Ghost training is when You set a long skill then unsubscribe your account. the skill used to continue to train to completion even if you could not log on because your account expires.

If your paying for your account you still train 24 hours a day regardless of whether or not your log on.

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Originally posted by Deathstrike2

At the risk of being flamed with attitude, what exactly are you saying?  I'm just asking a simple question.

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This thread is a YANSWT. (Yet Another New Server Whine Thread).
They usually pop up monthly on this board, so the topic has been beaten do death, back to life and dead again, and the remains put into a public display for everyone to beat.

Originally posted by ganbee

OP,

Fresh start, yes I am with you. This game needs a total revamp since they are taking away ghost training and introducing avatar's running around the space ternimals. They could actually bring this game full circle from launch! I never hated EVE but thought it lacked something(spaceship only). Yes the reason I quit over and over is it always felt like you where behind the learning curve! Older players always will not help you cause your newbie cause you only played for 2+ years! This game needs frebreez!

 

This person has either:

A) Never played EVE

B) Never understood what the heck was going on while he did play.

Regardless, the net result is a totally incorrect perception of EVE, the effects of training and the willingness of older players helping younger ones.

Best to disregard any opinions about a fresh start server as well, a useless proposal as always.

(and this coming from someone who started long after the game began and in no way feels like a second class citizen)

Nicoli ,

I still don't see that as a problem? This game is old, and if you want to play it  you need to lvl faster just like other MMO's. This is the reason I agreed to OP solution. Start from ground up and reintroduce players. This game has improve graphics and content ! Why not start a fresh server? Like a beta,for a proven game!

Kyleran,

Take that knife out my back already!

Originally posted by ganbee

Nicoli ,

I still don't see that as a problem? This game is old, and if you want to play it  you need to lvl faster just like other MMO's. This is the reason I agreed to OP solution. Start from ground up and reintroduce players. This game has improve graphics and content ! Why not start a fresh server? Like a beta,for a proven game!

Because it won't get rid of the advantages that experienced players have. Vets already know where all the good stuff is, they know how to control space, they know the quickest way to train up to specialized ships and those in an alliance will already have the built in organizational skills and teamwork that will allow them to dominate any new server in short order.

If anything opening  new server would be hell for new players because they would be prime targets for the alliances who would be stuck in small ships training for the big ones again. Trust me you don't want Goonswarm v2.0 bored and slumming around lowsec because they own half the map and no one can take out their pos's cause there are no dread pilots yet.

You dont get born with all the skilss of a 40 year old in RL do you? Why should you expect that in Eve?

For me that's part of the appeal of the game....its hard and fairly unforgiving.

Besides it does not take that long to catch up anymore , just decide what you want to do and stick to it.Its a myth that you can't play Eve just because someone has more SP than you.

As minsc said eve grew up as an evolving server and sadly as CCP China found out a from start server doesn't work out because of the balance between High-SP characters and the rest of the player keeps the system in a flowing dynamic balance

Minsc,

I am not talking about player transfer, or any type of gankfest. I am simply saying new server new subs. Where if you bought the game at the retail store and installed,  the game would be fresh like a new game just add the update's! This all I am saying, I just want a better  EVE than launch and will wait till that happens. I am in know way bashing or flaming, I  love sci-fi game's. A little more plz is what I asked!

Originally posted by ganbee

Minsc,

 

I am not talking about player transfer, or any type of gankfest. I am simply saying new server new subs. Where if you bought the game at the retail store and installed,  the game would be fresh like a new game just add the update's! This all I am saying, I just want a better  EVE than launch and will wait till that happens. I am in know way bashing or flaming, I  love sci-fi game's. A little more plz is what I asked!

I'm not talking about player transfer either. I'm talking about existing players starting a new character on the new server. They will dominate within a few weeks of the server starting up without a doubt. There's no real way to stop them from creating a character on that server and it WILL be a gankfest without a doubt.

Minsc ,

Immature players/Vet's?  So you are telling me only gankers play the game? Thank god I never subscribed again!  That game is done for the most part other than VET's? Your ending your own game!