Originally posted by N1ghtsta1ker

Originally posted by Cynthe

/shrug. :D  I'm actually curious to see what Bioware will do with Old Republic since they've expressed combat in most MMO's is neantherdal. But anyway.

Negotiate your way out of fights? 

"Mediation skill increased by 1"

Lol now theres an idea

it looks painfully obvious that the game was made for the Pokemon generation... such a shame

Originally posted by Galadourn

I've only recently bothered to check gameplay videos of Aion and search a bit on the game's features. And although the graphics seem decent (a bit too anime for my tastes but I can live with that), when I looked at the combat animations....oh my God!

The sounds and animations of combat remind me of coin-op machines back in the early 90s.  They are frightfully similar, to be honest.

Is there going to be a Western version with tweaked art-style (always with regard to animations and sounds) or is this going to be the final gold version?

I was thinking of giving it a try but it would be impossible to find myself immersed with combat like this.

 

PS: This is not a troll post but a serious question

NCSOFT make sounds , animations, styles like no other.

Stayontarget... don't be attacking every person who comes with a skeptical opinion of Aion.  What hurts aion's rep more than any troll is a community that can not respond to another's questions or opinions in a respectful manner. 

Originally posted by tikovoo

it looks painfully obvious that the game was made for the Pokemon generation... such a shame

Elaborate please?

I think it is quite obvious, after reading all of the comments on the recent open beta promo video, that animations are indeed a huge selling point on this game for many people. Yes, your characters makes non realistic movements fighting gravity over and over (they can fly, why wouldn't they be able to jump that high) but so do a lot of console games, successful ones for that matter.

Wether you like it or not, you can't say these animations are bad, cause they are pretty well done with natural movements even if the style is something you can't see irl, the whole thing looks like possible for demi-gods.

About the pokemon generation, I don't like pokemon, mind me I'm 23 years old (not too old, but on the average of MMORPG players) and pokemon got me with when I didn't like cartoons anymore, however, I love this game's graphics and style.

About the whole stayontarget thing, yeah, that came as offensive and not necessary, not everyone can be pleased by the same game, there are a lot of games for the OP to enjoy, but yes, the OP's comment also could have been seen as offensive due to certain remarks which attack those who like it.

I'm amazed cause many people who come saying that asian games are always this over-the-top anime graphics end up watching how every single videogame magazine rates games with the same style (devil may cry, dinasty warriors, final fantasy) with 99%'s, and yet they think their tastes are better. Leave the whole graphical debate to graphical experts, which won't judge style, but texture quality and models perfection.

Originally posted by Pezhead

Stayontarget... don't be attacking every person who comes with a skeptical opinion of Aion.  What hurts aion's rep more than any troll is a community that can not respond to another's questions or opinions in a respectful manner. 

If the new person would just ask right off the bat where to go for new info, I have np with that. But to post incorrect info without doing your homework will get no respect from me.

Originally posted by stayontarget

Fine if its info you seek then go here: www.aionsource.com/ Do some research then make your comments, maybe then I will respect you more.

Please piss off, because you're looking like the troll here not the OP.

Originally posted by stayontarget

 But to post incorrect info without doing your homework will get no respect from me.

and you make the serious mistake of thinking people want your respect. Just take a chill pill.

Originally posted by Galadourn

After having watched the latest HR videos, I can attest that combat is indeed a major turn-off for me.

Anyway, I guess it's what they say to each, his own.

I'm sad to read this but anyway it's about each one taste as you said.

Sincerely i hope you find the game you could enjoy the most. Its great times when it happens.

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Originally posted by tikovoo

it looks painfully obvious that the game was made for the Pokemon generation... such a shame

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Can we stop feeding him now?

Dam it..i am soo tired about this kinde of posts.U DONT LIKE IT?DONT PLAY IT!is simple as that.I dont whant to play with retards,ignorants that trie to love or anderstand this game.
OP u start this thread without searching the infos and vidoes about the game than u say is hard for a new comer to search about a specific game lol wtf GOOGLE.COM Aion(retard).I personaly dont like some games but i dont goo on theyr forum to spit on it so i advice u to doo soo.It is somthing normal that some will not like this game and this aply to any game out ther...my question is why coming here sayng that u dont like the game?doo u think NCSoft will take your advices and change the game?of course not soo dont bother coming here and spit on it.We all r here becouse we like what we have already see on soo many videos and infos...and wtf what doo u expect from me I say u r a retard and all of u haters out ther that will finaly play this game and dont tel me that i am wrong becouse i am not.
Go back to your game all of u retards...i am just sick of u all.
I am a fanboy ?fuck yea for Aion i am becouse i have play al moust all mmo out ther and Aion seams a last hope for a dam good game soo back of couse i am coming noobs and if i will see your ugly face in abis i will dance on your grave...dam noob retards i am out!

people come up with the word 'wrong' again and again, regarding my judgment of the game; But I never expressed judgment as a fact, I was always speaking subjectively saying that it is not for my tastes.

How can taste be wrong? As the proverb goes, de gustibus et  coloribus non est disputandum. (and you can google that to see what it means).

Dont take it personal, some people have grown tired of people trolling and they are more likely to jump than before.

That being said, opinions can be wrong even being opinions, I can have an opinion about US recent elections, for example, but I must admit I haven't researched enough to make my opinion valid for anyone but me, and if I dared to ignore what people who have researched more tell me, then I'd be stubborn.

tl;dr: Opinions are always fine until you expose them to debate.

opinions, but not tastes.

opinions are referring to a subject; you can have good knowledge of the subject, or poor knowledge, rendering your opinion valid or arbitrary respectively.

tastes is another issue altogether.

Why does people keep trying to use WoW to judge everything?  Sure, WoW have its strong points, but over all WoW is only average game with a huge fan base.  I am not saying its popularity is unfounded, but it is not based on the game system itself but in the name of Warcraft/Blizzard. 

Sure, the fast and easy leveling makes it easy, but sorry to say that type of speed is too fast for me.  And NO, I don't think korean grind fest game are just the right speed either so don't try to knit pick.

In terms of animation, WoW isn't bad, but only average again.  Alot of western style game don't realize this when making a game.  How you swing your weapon is very important in combat.  Half assed swings that look like you are play-fighting with the enemy is very bad.  When you do a heavy swing, it should look like you are hitting the enemy with all your force, if you do quick attacks it should look sharp and agile.  WoW is again only average on those points too.  Aion on the other hand is doing a much better job in combat animation.

However, that is my opinion.  I don't hate WoW, but I do hate people that blindly believe WoW is the standard all games should be judged on, mainly due to that logic is unfounded in terms of game value.  (BTW don't bother using how many accounts there are in WoW to prove anything, I am not the type to jump off a cliff even if the rest of the world does it)  I judge each game on my own after extensive playing.

Tastes are indeed quite objective, but measuring Aion's animations from an expert point of view ( I do work with animation) they are practicaly flawless.

oh yes, they are fine technically I won't doubt that.

Originally posted by Galadourn

oh yes, they are fine technically I won't doubt that.

Ok  OP you said that the combat is a turn off for you right? Combat makes up ALOT of your playtime in any MMO. I am not going to try to persuade you in changing your mind. Because if I do I dont want you on the forums posting negative comments on  how the combat is when you knew what you were getting before you bought it.So please move on and look for a game that intrests you.

BTW I dont expect a response. Go find a game that suits you!

A major flaw in gaming communities is when the "fanboys" try to recruit players, and change peoples mind. If the game is good it will sell itself.

Indeed. Not to sound negative or anything, but if you don't like the animations to the point where you just don't want to play a game at all, I'd look elsewhere, because I'm 99.99% sure that they won't change the combat animations just because some of the NA/EU audience has a problem with it. Personally, that's one of the reasons I love what I see in this game, as I'm not a huge fan of playing characters that look constipated when they're swinging a weapon around just for the sake of "realism". To each their own, though.