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....let's skip the how and why it could occurr, what do you think would be the fallout from such a transaction. |
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11/03/08 8:18:39 PM#2
Originally posted by infidelix
Well honestly I think subs would increase by a lot. Many would return because FC isn't really considerd a professional company anymore lol. There would be more optimism regarding fix's and additional content. While I personaly do not like WoW even I have to say that Blizzard has done a great job. FC ...... well no one can say they have done a great job, not many are even willing to say they even tried to do a decent job. |
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11/03/08 9:11:44 PM#3
Originally posted by GrayGhost79
Well honestly I think subs would increase by a lot. Many would return because FC isn't really considerd a professional company anymore lol. There would be more optimism regarding fix's and additional content. While I personaly do not like WoW even I have to say that Blizzard has done a great job. FC ...... well no one can say they have done a great job, not many are even willing to say they even tried to do a decent job.
lol. FC made me play a PC game religiously, something Blizzard has not even been close to. I think me and all other AoC fans would have a word or two against you here. |
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11/03/08 9:20:44 PM#4
If Blizzard bought AOC they would tell you that Hyboria is too dark and grim and color needs to be added to focus on gameplay more. They would also tell you than after 6 months of redesign that they now have 1 million subs "We have no idea where these people came from but they just started buying accounts in bulk outta nowhere" |
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11/03/08 9:25:51 PM#5
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11/03/08 9:26:03 PM#6
I'd say it would be the beginning of the end for Blizzard as it would show us that they have lost their mind. Why would Blizzard by a broken mmo that hardly anyone plays? That is what Sony does and so I'd say its more likely that Sony will buy AoC to add to their list of worthless and broken mmos. |
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11/03/08 9:27:54 PM#7
Originally posted by PezzBomb
lol. FC made me play a PC game religiously, something Blizzard has not even been close to. I think me and all other AoC fans would have a word or two against you here.
Just becuase you would have a word or two against it, doesnt mean all other AoC fans would. AoC needs a developer that doesnt suck. I believe AoC has the potential to be the best MMO out there. However it's no where close to where it should be. I blame that in large part to funcom and it's staff they had some very good ideas for what an MMO should be and didn't really deliver. It's not a bad game, but it definetely would have been better with the funding and attention to detail that blizzard puts into their games. Also of course server pops would go up, subs would increase drastically. If you look at the PC game sales blizzard dominates, yes new 'big' titles might over take some of their games for first month or so after release like Warhammer did. Blizzard games ALWAYS go back up to the top and hover there. Go to a gamestop, ebgames, any big retailer that sales PC games you will almost always find, D2 Battlechests, War3 Battlechests, WoW cards WoW+TBC, they will also be selling them and receiving them more often then other PC titles. I'm not sure how you could oppose the idea as a fan of AoC, unless you are fine with the lower population and the work or lack there of that Funcom has put into the game.
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11/03/08 9:33:14 PM#8
Hmmm. Mo, I'm against it. I think Blizzard have lost a lot of it's good programmers and devs in the last few years. If I would chose a company to take care of AoC I would chose Arenanet, those guys are amazing on fixing buggs and getting everything out of a engine. Besides, Blizzard don't do any games to an IP they don't own so first they would have to buy Paradox before Funcom, to get the Conan IP. |
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11/04/08 1:32:49 AM#9
Blizzard would shut the game down for about a year until it was polished to a releasable condition. AOC was released far too early, and lacked around half the features it was supposed to have (and several of those features are still not in the game). Sadly, AoC isn't a bad game, it was just released way before it shoud have been. The change in management over the past several weeks makes me hopeful that the game will eventually be worth playing, but there is still a ways to go, and it is very likely the game will never recover from the launch. AoC has the single best newbie area of any MMO I've ever played. If they had launched the game where everything was as good as Tortage, AoC would have easily been the best MMO on the market. As it is, AoC is another in a long line of unfinished releases where the developers decided that features that were supposed to be in the game at launch (Drunken Brawling, among others, though Drunken Brawling is the most important missing feature to me) were not really important, which means they aren't likely to ever be added.
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11/04/08 1:58:01 AM#10
All your gold are belong to me.
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S1GNAL
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11/04/08 4:48:46 AM#11
Blizzard would start listening to what their customers. You know, it boggles my mind to see FC so blatantly ignoring the value of customer feedback. I have beta tested AoC, and never got a mail with some kind of response. Communication and management would be better, so that the patches would get out without exploiting vulnerability. However I think AoC need a new engine or recoding of the engine. Thats hard to do, cos you would have to redo most elements in the game. AoC feels static, which I am sure Blizzard would have done more dynamic in a patch. Heres is where Blizzard are good, they listen, even if they do not believe in what you say. But FC seem to ignore you. The most important thing is the feedback from the player base, and some devs that knows exactly what gamers like to have in MMO. |
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11/06/08 3:07:50 PM#12
Originally posted by PezzBomb
lol. FC made me play a PC game religiously, something Blizzard has not even been close to. I think me and all other AoC fans would have a word or two against you here.
11 Million Subs = WOW , Aoc is what? Oh thats right they wont publish numbers. Gald you like the game though.
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11/06/08 3:47:35 PM#13
Originally posted by PezzBomb
lol. FC made me play a PC game religiously, something Blizzard has not even been close to. I think me and all other AoC fans would have a word or two against you here.
No worries, I know some out there can tolerate bad programing, I just can't. While I don't like Blizzards take on MMO's style wise, they are far superior to FC prgroming and managment wise. I would rather have someone that atleast had a moderate understanding of programing working on the game rather than the current monkies in diapers just mashing keys at random. Besides, you realise that AoC is going the WoW route now anyways. They have dumbed down combat already, there working on making items more important than skill next. So.... not really much difference if Blizzard did take over, the big difference would be 1) Better programers 2) Better managment 3) Loss of pixalated Boobs 4) Maybe the loss of the sad FFA PvP attempt FC made. (they tried lol but didn't quite get it right so it's sad and laughable) So....... I guess since everything else will be better....... Your against it because of the loss of pixalated boobs...... In any case lol, Blizzard is by far the better of the two companies. I don't like there style, but atleast there chit works as intended for the most part. |
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11/06/08 4:27:43 PM#14
Originally posted by GrayGhost79
lol. FC made me play a PC game religiously, something Blizzard has not even been close to. I think me and all other AoC fans would have a word or two against you here.
No worries, I know some out there can tolerate bad programing, I just can't. While I don't like Blizzards take on MMO's style wise, they are far superior to FC prgroming and managment wise. I would rather have someone that atleast had a moderate understanding of programing working on the game rather than the current monkies in diapers just mashing keys at random. Besides, you realise that AoC is going the WoW route now anyways. They have dumbed down combat already, there working on making items more important than skill next. So.... not really much difference if Blizzard did take over, the big difference would be 1) Better programers 2) Better managment 3) Loss of pixalated Boobs 4) Maybe the loss of the sad FFA PvP attempt FC made. (they tried lol but didn't quite get it right so it's sad and laughable) So....... I guess since everything else will be better....... Your against it because of the loss of pixalated boobs...... In any case lol, Blizzard is by far the better of the two companies. I don't like there style, but atleast there chit works as intended for the most part.
The more I read of your posts GreyGhost, the more I realize that you have little understanding of what you are talking about. A software working flawlessly is not equivalent to that the programmers are fantastic. We are really back to, that if you try to program Pacman that is fare more easy than if you try to program a game with close to MovieTheater realism. AoC is 10 times more complex than other MMO's out there, so how can you say that the AoC programmers are subpar. In my eyes AoC's programmers are probably some of the more competent people out there right now. The rest of your points are just plain out wrong and juvenile so I'll refrain to respond, but let me just tell you that your posting style and form are quickly moving toward what Lumache, orzo and other forum trolls are cranking out. |
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11/06/08 4:37:55 PM#15
Originally posted by Transporter
No worries, I know some out there can tolerate bad programing, I just can't. While I don't like Blizzards take on MMO's style wise, they are far superior to FC prgroming and managment wise. I would rather have someone that atleast had a moderate understanding of programing working on the game rather than the current monkies in diapers just mashing keys at random. Besides, you realise that AoC is going the WoW route now anyways. They have dumbed down combat already, there working on making items more important than skill next. So.... not really much difference if Blizzard did take over, the big difference would be 1) Better programers 2) Better managment 3) Loss of pixalated Boobs 4) Maybe the loss of the sad FFA PvP attempt FC made. (they tried lol but didn't quite get it right so it's sad and laughable) So....... I guess since everything else will be better....... Your against it because of the loss of pixalated boobs...... In any case lol, Blizzard is by far the better of the two companies. I don't like there style, but atleast there chit works as intended for the most part.
The more I read of your posts GreyGhost, the more I realize that you have little understanding of what you are talking about. A software working flawlessly is not equivalent to that the programmers are fantastic. We are really back to, that if you try to program Pacman that is fare more easy than if you try to program a game with close to MovieTheater realism. AoC is 10 times more complex than other MMO's out there, so how can you say that the AoC programmers are subpar. In my eyes AoC's programmers are probably some of the more competent people out there right now. The rest of your points are just plain out wrong and juvenile so I'll refrain to respond, but let me just tell you that your posting style and form are quickly moving toward what Lumache, orzo and other forum trolls are cranking out. Hardly 10 times as complex....but maybe 10 times as bad as any mmo out there. Numbers speak for themselves. If AoC is so fantastic and way ahead of anything else....why does nobody play it anymore. SWG imo was far more complex and thats 5-6 years old. |
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11/06/08 7:24:49 PM#16
Originally posted by PezzBomb
lol. All 4 of you would unsubscribe I guess then if blizzard got the game. On the flip side, Blizzard wouldn't buy the game. What for? It would be akin to Armani buying a couple T-shirts to add to their collection of fine clothing. Now if it was the Fail-com t-shirts hey who knows...might make some cash there.
Funcom.... Lol what a joke. Blizzard doesn't doesn't even remember or care anymore about FC. 0 threat percentage.
Personal disclosure statement: I don't play wow. I play the united brotherhood of none of your bussiness :) |
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11/06/08 8:33:04 PM#17
Originally posted by Transporter
No worries, I know some out there can tolerate bad programing, I just can't. While I don't like Blizzards take on MMO's style wise, they are far superior to FC prgroming and managment wise. I would rather have someone that atleast had a moderate understanding of programing working on the game rather than the current monkies in diapers just mashing keys at random. Besides, you realise that AoC is going the WoW route now anyways. They have dumbed down combat already, there working on making items more important than skill next. So.... not really much difference if Blizzard did take over, the big difference would be 1) Better programers 2) Better managment 3) Loss of pixalated Boobs 4) Maybe the loss of the sad FFA PvP attempt FC made. (they tried lol but didn't quite get it right so it's sad and laughable) So....... I guess since everything else will be better....... Your against it because of the loss of pixalated boobs...... In any case lol, Blizzard is by far the better of the two companies. I don't like there style, but atleast there chit works as intended for the most part.
The more I read of your posts GreyGhost, the more I realize that you have little understanding of what you are talking about. A software working flawlessly is not equivalent to that the programmers are fantastic. We are really back to, that if you try to program Pacman that is fare more easy than if you try to program a game with close to MovieTheater realism. AoC is 10 times more complex than other MMO's out there, so how can you say that the AoC programmers are subpar. In my eyes AoC's programmers are probably some of the more competent people out there right now. The rest of your points are just plain out wrong and juvenile so I'll refrain to respond, but let me just tell you that your posting style and form are quickly moving toward what Lumache, orzo and other forum trolls are cranking out.
Your right, it's so complex they can't get it to work........ Seriously though lol the AI is sub par, the quests are pretty standard. Whats so complex? The worse FC does the less I respect them. I guess my posts are reflecting that. Compare me to whom you will, I speak my mind. If you don't like it don't read it. FC has been pretty horrible with the programing so far, if your saying thats only because AoC is to complicated for them.... then I really don't know what to say. If the game is to complicated for them, maybe they should have done something a bit more simple. It's not just there programing either, there managment is just horrid. I mean the problems with 3.0 were explained in detail by many. They knew they were there. They released before the patch was ready, so there making the same mistakes over and over. I am fine with people making mistakes but for the love of all that is holy atleast try to learn from your mistake. Anyways, I am lossing what respect I had left for FC so my posts are showing that I am sorry this upsets you. By the Way it's GrayGhost not with an E, with an A. |
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11/06/08 8:47:48 PM#18
Originally posted by GrayGhost79
No worries, I know some out there can tolerate bad programing, I just can't. While I don't like Blizzards take on MMO's style wise, they are far superior to FC prgroming and managment wise. I would rather have someone that atleast had a moderate understanding of programing working on the game rather than the current monkies in diapers just mashing keys at random. Besides, you realise that AoC is going the WoW route now anyways. They have dumbed down combat already, there working on making items more important than skill next. So.... not really much difference if Blizzard did take over, the big difference would be 1) Better programers 2) Better managment 3) Loss of pixalated Boobs 4) Maybe the loss of the sad FFA PvP attempt FC made. (they tried lol but didn't quite get it right so it's sad and laughable) So....... I guess since everything else will be better....... Your against it because of the loss of pixalated boobs...... In any case lol, Blizzard is by far the better of the two companies. I don't like there style, but atleast there chit works as intended for the most part.
The more I read of your posts GreyGhost, the more I realize that you have little understanding of what you are talking about. A software working flawlessly is not equivalent to that the programmers are fantastic. We are really back to, that if you try to program Pacman that is fare more easy than if you try to program a game with close to MovieTheater realism. AoC is 10 times more complex than other MMO's out there, so how can you say that the AoC programmers are subpar. In my eyes AoC's programmers are probably some of the more competent people out there right now. The rest of your points are just plain out wrong and juvenile so I'll refrain to respond, but let me just tell you that your posting style and form are quickly moving toward what Lumache, orzo and other forum trolls are cranking out.
Your right, it's so complex they can't get it to work........ Seriously though lol the AI is sub par, the quests are pretty standard. Whats so complex? The worse FC does the less I respect them. I guess my posts are reflecting that. Compare me to whom you will, I speak my mind. If you don't like it don't read it. FC has been pretty horrible with the programing so far, if your saying thats only because AoC is to complicated for them.... then I really don't know what to say. If the game is to complicated for them, maybe they should have done something a bit more simple. It's not just there programing either, there managment is just horrid. I mean the problems with 3.0 were explained in detail by many. They knew they were there. They released before the patch was ready, so there making the same mistakes over and over. I am fine with people making mistakes but for the love of all that is holy atleast try to learn from your mistake. Anyways, I am lossing what respect I had left for FC so my posts are showing that I am sorry this upsets you. By the Way it's GrayGhost not with an E, with an A.
Nobody is upset and by the way your last post which is as negative as the previous post is totally ok because you convey a opinion rather than erronous facts. As I said before you cant claim that the makers of tetris are fantastic programmers just because something is not up to par (in your oppinion) in AoC. I on the other hand play TL as I have played many other TL servers of other games and I do not see more bugs from FC than others. Pretty much the same, but there is one important difference and that is in fact that FC test more, which is a good thing. |
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11/06/08 8:50:03 PM#19
How could you suggest such a thing?
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11/07/08 7:02:59 AM#20
Originally posted by Transporter
The more I read of your posts GreyGhost, the more I realize that you have little understanding of what you are talking about. A software working flawlessly is not equivalent to that the programmers are fantastic. We are really back to, that if you try to program Pacman that is fare more easy than if you try to program a game with close to MovieTheater realism. AoC is 10 times more complex than other MMO's out there, so how can you say that the AoC programmers are subpar. In my eyes AoC's programmers are probably some of the more competent people out there right now. The rest of your points are just plain out wrong and juvenile so I'll refrain to respond, but let me just tell you that your posting style and form are quickly moving toward what Lumache, orzo and other forum trolls are cranking out.
Your right, it's so complex they can't get it to work........ Seriously though lol the AI is sub par, the quests are pretty standard. Whats so complex? The worse FC does the less I respect them. I guess my posts are reflecting that. Compare me to whom you will, I speak my mind. If you don't like it don't read it. FC has been pretty horrible with the programing so far, if your saying thats only because AoC is to complicated for them.... then I really don't know what to say. If the game is to complicated for them, maybe they should have done something a bit more simple. It's not just there programing either, there managment is just horrid. I mean the problems with 3.0 were explained in detail by many. They knew they were there. They released before the patch was ready, so there making the same mistakes over and over. I am fine with people making mistakes but for the love of all that is holy atleast try to learn from your mistake. Anyways, I am lossing what respect I had left for FC so my posts are showing that I am sorry this upsets you. By the Way it's GrayGhost not with an E, with an A.
Nobody is upset and by the way your last post which is as negative as the previous post is totally ok because you convey a opinion rather than erronous facts. As I said before you cant claim that the makers of tetris are fantastic programmers just because something is not up to par (in your oppinion) in AoC. I on the other hand play TL as I have played many other TL servers of other games and I do not see more bugs from FC than others. Pretty much the same, but there is one important difference and that is in fact that FC test more, which is a good thing.
Seriously explain whats so complex about AoC. What makes it more complex then WoW? I can't stand WoW myself, I use to think better of AoC then WoW, now I think less of it then WoW. There in the process of converting the game over to a WoW clone with pixelated partial nudity and gore. Whats so complex about that? I played on TL as well and I still do on occasion on a friends account. Guess what, they are told by the testers the problems are there, repeatedly, half the time I can see the problems before ever playing it on TL just by reading the notes. They are beyond incompetent at times. I mean some of you fanboi's were trying to tell me I was wrong about reverse ganking, that AoE's wouldn't pose a problem and telling me I was wrong about many other things. This was before even playing it on TL. I then played it a week after my predicitions saw some of my concerns already posted so I left it be, there's no way a proffesional company would go live with it in the state it was. Yet they DID go live with it. The completely ignored there testers responses. I mean sure they let players test it for a good while. When the reports come in FC seems to simply say, well were programers and there just players, there's no way there are this many problems with it and they go live with it. When the rest of the community steps up and says WTF! Then FC plays moderator nazi and go into denial. Everythings working as intended, nothing to see here folks. Then when they start losing subs they go, Oh sorry we goofed, atleast were admitting it now, we will fix the problem soon. Some of the mods even go so far as to try and claim the reason the problems go live is because of the lack of testers on TL and the lack of QUALITY testers on TL. So I guess your right, they do test longer than some other companies. Most other companies I have done test servers for tend to get it mostly right the first time and there is little to fix. I don't always agree with the content of the patch but devs in general don't want feedback on the content just the technical side of it. They do listen and fix the problems for the most part atleast on there test servers.
Regardless, FC screws up and deny's it each and every time until it grows into a serious problem. They haven't learned jack in all this time. Once it becomes a problem the first people that tend to get blamed (By the mods atleast) are those on TL and those not on TL. When people that were on TL reply they already posted on the problem and reported as did many others the mods shut up. FC comes in and says theres a patch on the way it's on TL now. The problem is they do this each friggin time. Why have a TL if your not going to listen to the F'n people testing???? I am sorry Transporter I just don't see any proffesionalism from FC. You are correct that the above and everything I post about AoC and FC are just my opinions. The problem is there are more people that agree with my opinion of FC and AoC than disagree, Atleast a good bit of my opinion. Listen or don't listen it matters not to me. I've said what I wanted to say. You can disagree all you want, you can think FC and AoC are great all you want, the problem is of course that is just YOUR opinion. |
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