Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by qazyman

Originally posted by deviliscious

 

YOU ARE MAD if you think they have any intention of cutting spending..

You may be right but if you are he will lose the middle and lose power very quickly.

Have you even looked at what they have passed with a democrat majority? Have you even looked? 

Bill Clinton had a Democratic majority and did exactly what I'm proposing for the reasons I suggest. If Obama want to take the nation down a liberal love fest thats fine, but he will lose the support of the people by doing this. This is really the only logical approach for the democrats; It will insure political power for a very long time. If they want to do the same thing Bush did say Hello to a third party.

Am I MAD, thats debatable...but I've certainly been called worse.
 

Originally posted by Brenelael

Originally posted by Gorair

actually Obama has a shot of getting something's he wants done , he is sitting in perfect position to have a trifecta of Democrats with no way to stop policy. no mater what anyone outside the hill wants or says.

If he gets the seats in  Senate and house + his bias means they actually have a decent shot at passing things he wants.

 

 

Everything must pass by a 2/3rds majority. As long as the Republicans hold at least 1/3rd of each house Obama isn't going to change squat.

 

Cobra Commander is looking better and better every day

 

Bren

Not true, to pass something only requires a +50% majority so long as the President agrees. The only time it requires +66% is when the president attempts to veto the bill.

Originally posted by qazyman

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by qazyman

Originally posted by deviliscious

 

YOU ARE MAD if you think they have any intention of cutting spending..

You may be right but if you are he will lose the middle and lose power very quickly.

Have you even looked at what they have passed with a democrat majority? Have you even looked? 

Bill Clinton had a Democratic majority and did exactly what I'm proposing for the reasons I suggest. If Obama want to take the nation down a liberal love fest thats fine, but he will lose the support of the people by doing this. This is really the only logical approach for the democrats; It will insure political power for a very long time. If they want to do the same thing Bush did say Hello to a third party.

Am I MAD, thats debatable...but I've certainly been called worse.
 

The problem being that we have a more corrupt congress than ever right now, they throw out the people from meetings that stand up for the people, THEY HAVE NOT DONE THIS IN THE PAST. They care nothing for the people, it is all about their agenda. ask Marcy Kaptur.. she knows "wassup" and she isn;t afraid to tell the people either. The problem is there are very few Kapturs fighting for us, and we have to clean these others out before we can get more in there.  The balance is way off that is why these things have been able to happen, the balance will be farther off if Pelosi has absolute power.

Obama does what pelosi says ... and that isn't going to be good for anyone.  We should have been saying "hello" to a third party for a while now, but see they have corrupted the system to such extreme that no one even gets to hear what the third parties are offering. They are not even allowed in the main presidential debates, and they very well should be. Unless that changes there is no way any 3rd party will be able to "buy " their way in because  that is the only way they can get there. They get no air time, and the majority of the country doesn't even know about the 3rd party.

I do not think they will be "moderate" in their decicions, far from it, this is the most liberal congress and presidential candidate this country has ever seen. I don;t think  they even care if they get reelected, they think that as long as they  get the uneducated people out to vote they can win via media blitz.  It works for power rangers why not the white house? You see they have propaganda on their side, what do the people have? Nothing.
 

Originally posted by tillamook

I love how deviliscious keeps telling people they are wrong, but when you check the facts it seem she is wrong and it's all just her oppinion. Who spent all the surplus? xD It was Bush

Anyways Bush fucked up, even he knows this. After he is out of office you are gonna see an interview done on a prime time news show were he admits his mistakes. There was a reason why his advisers bailed on him, thought we all know he was misinformed on a lot of things by his advisers. So don't be surprised if he points the finger at a few them, and rightly so. And here is something some of you may not know, he's voting for Obama.

So Bush is voting for Obama? Do the Bush-Whackers know? Or did the media hide that jab at their infatuation, too?

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by qazyman

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by qazyman

Originally posted by deviliscious

 

 

 

 

I do not think they will be "moderate" in their decicions, far from it, this is the most liberal congress and presidential candidate this country has ever seen. I don;t think  they even care if they get reelected, they think that as long as they  get the uneducated people out to vote they can win via media blitz.  It works for power rangers why not the white house? You see they have propaganda on their side, what do the people have? Nothing.
 

 I think (hope) you may underestimate the American voter. The American people want real change. If Obama and Pelosi don't deliver they will be in the same boat Bush is in right now. I agree that they try to fool the voters to retain power; I just don't think this has proved to be a good way to govern.

If your views are correct, the Dem's will go down if flames and voters will start to look to other options. A media blitz will not cover up lies and failure for very long.

BTW you keep saying politics is about individuals not parties. If this is true why didn't McCain run as the Maverick he has been his whole career? That was a Joe I could have voted for.

 

 

Originally posted by qazyman

Originally posted by deviliscious

 

I do not think they will be "moderate" in their decicions, far from it, this is the most liberal congress and presidential candidate this country has ever seen. I don;t think  they even care if they get reelected, they think that as long as they  get the uneducated people out to vote they can win via media blitz.  It works for power rangers why not the white house? You see they have propaganda on their side, what do the people have? Nothing.

 

 

 I think (hope) you may underestimate the American voter. The American people want real change. If Obama and Pelosi don't deliver they will be in the same boat Bush is in right now. I agree that they try to fool the voters to retain power; I just don't think this has proved to be a good way to govern.

If your views are correct, the Dem's will go down if flames and voters will start to look to other options. A media blitz will not cover up lies and failure for very long.

BTW you keep saying politics is about individuals not parties. If this is true why didn't McCain run as the Maverick he has been his whole career? That was a Joe I could have voted for.

 

 

 

well, you see how far Bob barr got on his own.. why do you think Ron Paul went republican?, ( which I still wish they had chose him instead)  without the backing from one of the parties you don;t have a snowballs chance in hell of winning. You get no advertsing, no press, no debates, no televised speeches.. nothing.. so no one even knows you ran at all.  To me it is about indviduals, I cannot understand how anyone could vote straight ticket ever without even knowing what or who they are voting for. I actually look at each and every person runnig for office in every position so that I can make a sound decision. The majority of  voters do not and that is a problem.

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by qazyman

Originally posted by deviliscious

 

I do not think they will be "moderate" in their decicions, far from it, this is the most liberal congress and presidential candidate this country has ever seen. I don;t think  they even care if they get reelected, they think that as long as they  get the uneducated people out to vote they can win via media blitz.  It works for power rangers why not the white house? You see they have propaganda on their side, what do the people have? Nothing.

 

 

 I think (hope) you may underestimate the American voter. The American people want real change. If Obama and Pelosi don't deliver they will be in the same boat Bush is in right now. I agree that they try to fool the voters to retain power; I just don't think this has proved to be a good way to govern.

If your views are correct, the Dem's will go down if flames and voters will start to look to other options. A media blitz will not cover up lies and failure for very long.

BTW you keep saying politics is about individuals not parties. If this is true why didn't McCain run as the Maverick he has been his whole career? That was a Joe I could have voted for.

 

 

 

 

well, you see how far Bob barr got on his own.. why do you think Ron Paul went republican?, ( which I still wish they had chose him instead)  without the backing from one of the parties you don;t have a snowballs chance in hell of winning. You get no advertsing, no press, no debates, no televised speeches.. nothing.. so no one even knows you ran at all.  To me it is about indviduals, I cannot understand how anyone could vote straight ticket ever without even knowing what or who they are voting for. I actually look at each and every person runnig for office in every position so that I can make a sound decision. The majority of  voters do not and that is a problem.

Did you notice how they came after him with that racism charge after he raised all that money?

I think your wrong to think Ron Paul's views don't have a place in America's future. If the Dem's fail, thats where people will turn. Ron Paul was the best candidate in the race IMHO.

Originally posted by qazyman

Originally posted by deviliscious

 

well, you see how far Bob barr got on his own.. why do you think Ron Paul went republican?, ( which I still wish they had chose him instead)  without the backing from one of the parties you don;t have a snowballs chance in hell of winning. You get no advertsing, no press, no debates, no televised speeches.. nothing.. so no one even knows you ran at all.  To me it is about indviduals, I cannot understand how anyone could vote straight ticket ever without even knowing what or who they are voting for. I actually look at each and every person runnig for office in every position so that I can make a sound decision. The majority of  voters do not and that is a problem.

 

Did you notice how they came after him with that racism charge after he raised all that money?

I think your wrong to think Ron Paul's views don't have a place in America's future. If the Dem's fail, thats where people will turn. Ron Paul was the best candidate in the race IMHO.

I fully agree, and the republicans would have taken this in a land slide if they had nominated him instead.
 

Originally posted by qazyman

Originally posted by olddaddy

Originally posted by JestorRodo

Originally posted by Zindaihas

Originally posted by crysomore

 

 

Obama will take the money away from the rich and rebuild the middle class. Such a redistribution of wealth is evil, for the rich create jobs. What needs to be done to get out of this recession is to take more money away from the middle class, and give it to the rich so that more jobs are created.

Policies like the bailout are good. Giving bailout money to executives as a bonus is good. Spending bailout money on executive retreats to luxury resorts is good. Giving subsidies to the wool industry and wooden arrow shaft manufacturers is good. This is how to create more jobs.

What we need is eight more years of Bush economic policies. Obama will only destroy America by undoing all that Bush has accomplished in the last eight years. Vote McCain, he will take care of you.

Thank You! I hadn't had a good laugh today until I read this
 

On a side note. We have just witnessed the greatest redistribution of wealth since the 20's and 30's. All of it going to the wealthy. This is why the middle class is hurting so bad, they have been bled dry. Why is there such an emotional response when they use politics to strike back? Lets just hope Obama can help.

I'll let you in on a little secret....America's middle class is far more important to global stability than America's wealthy could ever hope to be. We are the one's who do the work; we are the ones who pay the bills!

  I was laughing at this too. The only Tickle down I want to see is out of Palin's ***.

Originally posted by JestorRodo

Originally posted by qazyman

Originally posted by olddaddy

Originally posted by JestorRodo

Originally posted by Zindaihas

Originally posted by crysomore

 

 

Obama will take the money away from the rich and rebuild the middle class. Such a redistribution of wealth is evil, for the rich create jobs. What needs to be done to get out of this recession is to take more money away from the middle class, and give it to the rich so that more jobs are created.

Policies like the bailout are good. Giving bailout money to executives as a bonus is good. Spending bailout money on executive retreats to luxury resorts is good. Giving subsidies to the wool industry and wooden arrow shaft manufacturers is good. This is how to create more jobs.

What we need is eight more years of Bush economic policies. Obama will only destroy America by undoing all that Bush has accomplished in the last eight years. Vote McCain, he will take care of you.

Thank You! I hadn't had a good laugh today until I read this
 

On a side note. We have just witnessed the greatest redistribution of wealth since the 20's and 30's. All of it going to the wealthy. This is why the middle class is hurting so bad, they have been bled dry. Why is there such an emotional response when they use politics to strike back? Lets just hope Obama can help.

I'll let you in on a little secret....America's middle class is far more important to global stability than America's wealthy could ever hope to be. We are the one's who do the work; we are the ones who pay the bills!

  I was laughing at this too. The only Tickle down I want to see is out of Palin's ***.

 

Sick.  Well thanks guys for the entertainment.  I'm glad most of you are too lazy or young to vote.
 

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by qazyman

Originally posted by deviliscious

 

well, you see how far Bob barr got on his own.. why do you think Ron Paul went republican?, ( which I still wish they had chose him instead)  without the backing from one of the parties you don;t have a snowballs chance in hell of winning. You get no advertsing, no press, no debates, no televised speeches.. nothing.. so no one even knows you ran at all.  To me it is about indviduals, I cannot understand how anyone could vote straight ticket ever without even knowing what or who they are voting for. I actually look at each and every person runnig for office in every position so that I can make a sound decision. The majority of  voters do not and that is a problem.

 

Did you notice how they came after him with that racism charge after he raised all that money?

I think your wrong to think Ron Paul's views don't have a place in America's future. If the Dem's fail, thats where people will turn. Ron Paul was the best candidate in the race IMHO.

I fully agree, and the republicans would have taken this in a land slide if they had nominated him instead.
 

Paul/Palin '08!

Originally posted by crysomore

Originally posted by JestorRodo

Originally posted by qazyman

Originally posted by olddaddy

Originally posted by JestorRodo

Originally posted by Zindaihas

Originally posted by crysomore

 

 

Obama will take the money away from the rich and rebuild the middle class. Such a redistribution of wealth is evil, for the rich create jobs. What needs to be done to get out of this recession is to take more money away from the middle class, and give it to the rich so that more jobs are created.

Policies like the bailout are good. Giving bailout money to executives as a bonus is good. Spending bailout money on executive retreats to luxury resorts is good. Giving subsidies to the wool industry and wooden arrow shaft manufacturers is good. This is how to create more jobs.

What we need is eight more years of Bush economic policies. Obama will only destroy America by undoing all that Bush has accomplished in the last eight years. Vote McCain, he will take care of you.

Thank You! I hadn't had a good laugh today until I read this
 

On a side note. We have just witnessed the greatest redistribution of wealth since the 20's and 30's. All of it going to the wealthy. This is why the middle class is hurting so bad, they have been bled dry. Why is there such an emotional response when they use politics to strike back? Lets just hope Obama can help.

I'll let you in on a little secret....America's middle class is far more important to global stability than America's wealthy could ever hope to be. We are the one's who do the work; we are the ones who pay the bills!

  I was laughing at this too. The only Tickle down I want to see is out of Palin's ***.

 

Sick.  Well thanks guys for the entertainment.  I'm glad most of you are too lazy or young to vote.
 

  Your welcome butt , If you are registered and are too lazy to vote , you just lost your right to bitch about the results . SOOOOOOOOOOOOO Go Vote !

Originally posted by LV426

Originally posted by tillamook

More troll spam, no one cares what this guy thinks, he’s not even a gamer, he’s never played an MMO and he don't care about MMOs. He’s just some random "Joe 12 pack"  on a troll alt account political shilling for his own agenda here. I would just ignore him, report all his posts.

 

Wow... so you have to game to have a political opnion? You, Sir... are an ass.

If all else fails resort to name calling.

I call it as I see it.... and I called it as I see it when you make a call out for everyone to report someone over something COMPLETELY unconnected. I stand by the statement.

REPUBLICANS ALL OVER THE NATION ARE FILLED GATHERING! They are planning for a mass-suicide their neo-conservative mindsets can't stand a man of color being president!

Originally posted by IIRL

REPUBLICANS ALL OVER THE NATION ARE FILLED GATHERING! They are planning for a mass-suicide their neo-conservative mindsets can't stand a man of color being president!

Wow ... i cant beleive how racist the new democratic party has become recently. Its a shame we actually had a chance to step past that , now its being undone.

Originally posted by crysomore

This economic crap and Obama as president all points to the end of the middle-class.  And no guys they aren't going to bump us up a notch.  Have fun.  Your only option is to join the welfare wagon and become a loser because ingenuity, risk, independence, knowledge and hard work will NOT be rewarded.

Hyperbole. If McCain wins, we'll go to war with every country in the world. If Obama wins, the USA will be just lke the old Soviet Union.

The world won't end if either one gets elected.

Originally posted by Gorair

Originally posted by IIRL

REPUBLICANS ALL OVER THE NATION ARE FILLED GATHERING! They are planning for a mass-suicide their neo-conservative mindsets can't stand a man of color being president!

 

Wow ... i cant beleive how racist the new democratic party has become recently. Its a shame we actually had a chance to step past that , now its being undone.

 

 

I can...

Originally posted by Gorair

Originally posted by IIRL

REPUBLICANS ALL OVER THE NATION ARE FILLED GATHERING! They are planning for a mass-suicide their neo-conservative mindsets can't stand a man of color being president!

 

Wow ... i cant beleive how racist the new democratic party has become recently. Its a shame we actually had a chance to step past that , now its being undone.

 

 

Wow, I can't stand how people have no idea what the true concept of racism is. Instead you tout this 'new/reverse racism'. This ain't racism, reverse or otherwise, and to think so is plain stupidity.

I think you belong here

Originally posted by star.buck

Originally posted by Gorair

Originally posted by IIRL

REPUBLICANS ALL OVER THE NATION ARE FILLED GATHERING! They are planning for a mass-suicide their neo-conservative mindsets can't stand a man of color being president!

 

Wow ... i cant beleive how racist the new democratic party has become recently. Its a shame we actually had a chance to step past that , now its being undone.

 

 

Wow, I can't stand how people have no idea what the true concept of racism is. Instead you tout this 'new/reverse racism'. This ain't racism, reverse or otherwise, and to think so is plain stupidity.

I think you belong here

 

I think it's a statement of what the percieved motive of Dems nominating him were. Concidering the delegate selection, I wouldnt be suprised if they were right, actually....