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  Stradden

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OP  11/03/08 1:20:06 PM#1

MMORPG.com Age of Conan Correspondent Ben Avery recently spoke with members of two Age of Conan Guilds, on in North America and one in Europe, to get their opinions on a number of issues relevant to the game as it is now and since launch.

In Part One, Ben talks to Mental Block, from the North American guild Primal Instinct.

Age of Conan is fast approaching the 5 months old mark. It released amidst a huge wave of hype. Is the game currently living up to the hype from the minds of its current player base? Did that wave of hype crash down and drown everyone? Is the game the same as it was at release? Has it gotten worse or better?

These are some of the questions that I hope to bring answers to in today’s Age of Conan state of the game Guild Q&A. One of the main reasons for doing this is to get some perspective from the current player base that has been in since launch. I thought ‘what better way to do this than to ask directly’! It’s also important to ask the right questions to get a clearer perspective for those interested. I have chosen two guilds to start – one from the European servers and one from the North American continent servers. These guilds are active in game, are known on their servers and have some good insight. I hope this comes across as adequate and unbiased enough for the critics and a decent enough read for the casual browser. As the questions asked are to the leaders and guild members alike, it should portray a good representation of where we are up to today with Age of Conan. We have one large guild and one average sized, both from a PvP and PvE perspective. As time goes on I might be doing more of these to getter a better feel of the truer state of the game.

Check out Ben's interview.

Cheers,
Jon Wood
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  Samhael

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11/03/08 2:03:50 PM#2

 

12-15 actives?  I wouldn't really consider that worthy of an article.  If I had been the correspondent, I would have tried to get an interview with more of a representive guild (granted that due to the sub decline that number might have dwindled somewhat).  No disrespect intended to the members of Primal but this article seems unworthy of the space it takes up.

  AmazingAvery

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The only time you run out of chances is when you stop taking them.

11/03/08 2:08:27 PM#3
Originally posted by Samhael

 

12-15 actives?  I wouldn't really consider that worthy of an article.  If I had been the correspondent, I would have tried to get an interview with more of a representive guild (granted that due to the sub decline that number might have dwindled somewhat).  No disrespect intended to the members of Primal but this article seems unworthy of the space it takes up.


 

I was going for a PvP and PvE guild perspective contrast - there is a part 2 coming soon, and seen as a whole might give a clearer picture. For Example the EU Guild coming - has 200+ members. P.I.'s numbers I believe have risen slightly as the article was penned a few weeks ago and patches since. A lot of P.I's members run on the test server too, giving further insight.


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  Soupgoblin

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11/03/08 2:51:50 PM#4

 

I too was dissapointed that the guild interviewed was a very tiny guild with very little experience with raiding and Sieging. I was also dissapointed that the guild was an old AO guild. So they may be somewhat biased towards Funcom (I'm not saying they are, but that is my perception considering they seem to be very fond of AO and Craig the game director).

Why couldn't you find a larger guild that has more experience in raiding and sieging?

On another note, I can see that the leader is not fond of the community, he considers them clueless, and he is happy with the "FOTM" OP Bear Shaman Class.

Overall the interview was very well written, but lacks substance due to the lack of experience exhibited by a very small guild, and the guild seems to have been "cherry picked" to get answers that the interviewer wanted to hear.

Next time find a guild that isn't heavily into AO, and that may be a bit more unbiased.

  User Deleted
11/03/08 3:40:27 PM#5

heh. the smaller the population the easier to be "king of the hill" Im sure some people are happy to be the big fish in the little pond. As for paid transfers . FC would have to be out of their mind clueless to not at least offer a limited time free transfer. Afterall the mess AoC is in now is all their fault. They should suck it up and do what it takes to make those players they still have happy and wanting to stay.

  AmazingAvery

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Joined: 1/16/07
Posts: 7095

The only time you run out of chances is when you stop taking them.

11/03/08 3:54:17 PM#6
Originally posted by Soupgoblin

 

I too was dissapointed that the guild interviewed was a very tiny guild with very little experience with raiding and Sieging. I was also dissapointed that the guild was an old AO guild. So they may be somewhat biased towards Funcom (I'm not saying they are, but that is my perception considering they seem to be very fond of AO and Craig the game director).

Why couldn't you find a larger guild that has more experience in raiding and sieging?

On another note, I can see that the leader is not fond of the community, he considers them clueless, and he is happy with the "FOTM" OP Bear Shaman Class.

Overall the interview was very well written, but lacks substance due to the lack of experience exhibited by a very small guild, and the guild seems to have been "cherry picked" to get answers that the interviewer wanted to hear.

Next time find a guild that isn't heavily into AO, and that may be a bit more unbiased.


 

As I said this is part 1. Part 2 is a PvE guild which is large and into Raiding. The whole thing was 2 big to put up as one article. Therefore as a whole it should give the reader constrasting views coupled with my take on what was said too :)


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  Dillig

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11/03/08 4:30:30 PM#7

 Hmm I find it really hard to believe that the person they talked with has been playing from day one just because of this quote.

 "Patches in AO used to come every 6-8 weeks (sometimes longer before Silirrion), I think that during launch (and the month following it) FC was fixing problems fast and effectively, downtimes weren't annoying as they were usually short. They were doing very good, I do think they should speed it up a little or just hot-fix things like the gems(remove them completely and rebalanced them on test), testing is required as well and the test server player base is ok, the Raid guild idea(to test raids on Test live) is also a good move.

I have no problem if the patches take longer, as long as they do not introduce game breaking bugs."
 

Patches in AOC were an ongoing joke server wide. The nerfed every 2 weeks and fixed bugs like NPC such and such will no longer dance on his chair. Not sure how things have been the last couple patches but that first 3 months or so it was all about the nerf bat. I recently read up some on the boards cause I was thinking about going back to see what had changed but the fact they still have not fixed much of the raiding makes me think not.

  Damarl

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Joined: 7/25/06
Posts: 30

11/03/08 4:34:17 PM#8

wow... a bear shaman saying that people gotta learn how to play their toon to be able to have fun in AoC... Just try a conqueror for fun, dont go for a 2hand weapon, try some dual wielding. And then come see me and explain me how a damn healer can outDPS the main DPS class of the soldier archetype ? How can a guardian (the main tanking class, the name says it no ? ) can outDPS a Conq ?

AoC should hav been the best MMO out there 4 month ago, they fucked it all up real good ! i've wait 2 years and a half for this game, i'm a fan of Conan lore, with bloody battles, where melee is the main kind of fight everywhere. But Funcom just made a Age of Caster...

Ninja patch happening any time of the days is kinda boring too, and having to wait almost a month to get some bas news (all they can do is change name of the damn abilities) in a fabulous patch where they're still having fun with caster class they'Ve been working on since launch !

Sorry but Funcom wont have my money anymore, i'Ve already paid enough, i'Ve been patient and they still cant fix their nightmare, enough is enough.

  Nukacola

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Joined: 11/03/08
Posts: 2

11/03/08 5:23:04 PM#9
Originally posted by Samhael

 

12-15 actives?  I wouldn't really consider that worthy of an article.  If I had been the correspondent, I would have tried to get an interview with more of a representive guild (granted that due to the sub decline that number might have dwindled somewhat).  No disrespect intended to the members of Primal but this article seems unworthy of the space it takes up.

 

This is going to be fun, so lets start:

Big guilds have 30-40 active people on Tyranny, which is the most populated US PvP server.


PI at the time of writing(a month ago) had 12-15, as it stands now, we have 20ish.

People are slowly coming back.

 

[quote]Originally posted by Soupgoblin

 

I too was dissapointed that the guild interviewed was a very tiny guild with very little experience with raiding and Sieging. I was also dissapointed that the guild was an old AO guild. So they may be somewhat biased towards Funcom (I'm not saying they are, but that is my perception considering they seem to be very fond of AO and Craig the game director).

Why couldn't you find a larger guild that has more experience in raiding and sieging?[/quote]

Craig did good things for a game that was pretty much not getting any updates for years and crap.

He actually communicated with the community and implemented a lot of good and thought out suggestions made BY players.

Somethings that lacking in AoC.

The thing I dislike about him is that he made AO a lot more gear dependent, which I fear he will do with AoC as well...

 

Also, as far as raiding goes, we don't raid, its boring.

As far as sieges go, we did 4 in this/last week.

So...
Right, find more guilds that siege(be it offence or defence) more regularly than that.

 

[quote]

On another note, I can see that the leader is not fond of the community, he considers them clueless, and he is happy with the "FOTM" OP Bear Shaman Class.[/qupte]

This FoTM OP bear shaman has been playing since the beta and has 2 guides behind him, as well as about 10-15 pvp videos, so try again.

So when I say people need to learn to play, it means they need to learn to play, rangers are complaining they can't tank people, while having 3 types of ranged CC to keep them at bay and 2 melee ones...

They have all the tools to stay at range, yet most people are idiots and don't realize it, they do the same, KB at start(or pin down), trap and try killing people, they blow all their CCs right at the start, instead of using them strategically.


The community is crap in AoC, if you compare  it to AO's one, if you haven't played AO, you don't know, its that simple.

The community is crap, there are some good individuals, in every class forum, people who see the bigger picture and keep telling people they are idiots when they whine about stupid stuff, but overall, the community is immature, childish, filled with idiots, crybabies and people who refuse to learn basic game mechanics, lets not forget the people who pay for the game just so they can troll...

[quote]

Overall the interview was very well written, but lacks substance due to the lack of experience exhibited by a very small guild, and the guild seems to have been "cherry picked" to get answers that the interviewer wanted to hear.

Next time find a guild that isn't heavily into AO, and that may be a bit more unbiased.[/quote]

How did you figure we are biased...

Jesus...

AO had a few good things, it was a good game, mostly because the community was specific, it was full of good people, some good mechanics and a wealth of knowledge.

You can't imagine how much knowledge the forums contain, sadly its not the case with AoC, whine threads outnumber "knowledge" threads by 12:1.

[quote]

Originally posted by Bodeus

heh. the smaller the population the easier to be "king of the hill" Im sure some people are happy to be the big fish in the little pond.[/quote]

Funny, consider Tyranny is the most populated US PvP server.

Again, if you want to make comments, at least get your facts straight.

[quote]

Originally posted by Dillig

Hmm I find it really hard to believe that the person they talked with has been playing from day one just because of this quote.

"Patches in AO used to come every 6-8 weeks (sometimes longer before Silirrion), I think that during launch (and the month following it) FC was fixing problems fast and effectively, downtimes weren't annoying as they were usually short. They were doing very good, I do think they should speed it up a little or just hot-fix things like the gems(remove them completely and rebalanced them on test), testing is required as well and the test server player base is ok, the Raid guild idea(to test raids on Test live) is also a good move.

I have no problem if the patches take longer, as long as they do not introduce game breaking bugs."

Patches in AOC were an ongoing joke server wide. The nerfed every 2 weeks and fixed bugs like NPC such and such will no longer dance on his chair. Not sure how things have been the last couple patches but that first 3 months or so it was all about the nerf bat. I recently read up some on the boards cause I was thinking about going back to see what had changed but the fact they still have not fixed much of the raiding makes me think not.[/quote]


Lets go:

Traders were taken out soon as the duping was discovered(fast), took a while to fix, lots of stuff was fixed and hot fixed immediately after launch, so no, you're wrong.

The gems did took a fucking age to do, which is a big minus.

But overall, the month after the launch, it was good, 2 patches a week on average...

They toned down a lot of classes that needed toning down(ToS for example, so no more infinite cyclones/idols), they took out a lot of exploits fast as well.

[quote]

Originally posted by Damarl

wow... a bear shaman saying that people gotta learn how to play their toon to be able to have fun in AoC... Just try a conqueror for fun, dont go for a 2hand weapon, try some dual wielding. And then come see me and explain me how a damn healer can outDPS the main DPS class of the soldier archetype ? How can a guardian (the main tanking class, the name says it no ? ) can outDPS a Conq ?[/quote]


http://www.tentonhammer.com/node/22025 as far as DPS goes, answers are in there.

I also play a pretty good necro.

 

Think I covered it all.

It comes to this:

You guys have an opinion, just not an informed one...

Nice that you tried to flame, but failed, since you don't know jack about the current situation... :>

  AlienShirt

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11/03/08 5:44:43 PM#10

I am sure all they could find was one guild still playing AoC on both sides of the pond.

  ganbee

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Posts: 249

11/03/08 5:48:35 PM#11

Ben could have poked at the wounds more! Jon give him some pointers!

  Deewe

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Posts: 1982

11/03/08 6:23:53 PM#12

Nice interview.

As a note, I urge FunCom to do server merge. I won't be back till they at least merge them.

  Samhael

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Posts: 630

11/03/08 6:56:40 PM#13
Originally posted by Nukacola

Nice that you tried to flame, but failed, since you don't know jack about the current situation... :>

Dang, i didn't realize I was supposed to be flaming the post.  Actually, i was meaning more to express a mild disappointment that the article had focused on a smaller guild (which may be the norm these days -- my sub ended last week so I admit to being out of touch).

I'm glad to hear you've had some success with recruiting and hope the article helps y'all get more!  Believe it or not, I'd love to see AoC have a great resurgence and really start to shine.  I think that's going to be tough as hell but I'd still like to see it happen.  Maybe I'll check out the game in 6 months or so -- whenever Funcom decides to give a free month to former subscribers.  As you may be able to guess by the fact I still read the articles at all, I'm essentially an optimist at heart.

Note to the author: yeah, I've seen a couple of correspondents comment about the length of time between submitting and actually getting posted. With the patches that have occurred since time of writing, you'd figure that a lot of things about AoC would be more timely. Oh well.  But I will take a jab at you (in the best of spirit) -- you realize your avatar makes you look like a fanboi, right?  :P

  Bigdavo

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Posts: 2092

11/03/08 7:44:02 PM#14
Originally posted by ganbee

Ben could have poked at the wounds more! Jon give him some pointers!


 

You kidding me, poking at the wounds is the last thing Avery would do.

O_o o_O

  Soupgoblin

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11/03/08 10:25:18 PM#15

Nukacola:

Please write more coherently. And please organize your post a bit better, it is difficult to tell what you are whinning about.

You are correct about your views of the AoC community, the reason for that is AoC is a bad game, bad games mean upset, whinney players. Why would you bother to write two guides for people you can't stand?

There are larger guilds, but they are on Cimmeria, the most populated server I know. Tranny doesn't hold a candle to Cimmeria's population.

And chiding people to "learn to play" when you play the absolutely easiest class in AoC is just silly (sort of like a Guardian telling a conquerer to "learn to tank better"). And any 14 year old with fraps can make PVP videos.

Congradulations on your new MMORPG account. You will have good company with the rest of the new members from AoC.

 

Avery:

Please stop throwing month old interviews that are full of outdated information up here on MMORPG, that is just sad. How old is the 2nd interview with the guild from Norway..I mean EU that you are going to put up later?

But the interview was very well written, so good job on that...

  kujii

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Joined: 6/10/07
Posts: 188

11/03/08 11:00:36 PM#16

Charging for server transfers would really piss off the already pissed off imo.  People have already paid for something that was only half delivered.  Drunken brawling anyone? 

  Slashed316

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Posts: 151

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11/03/08 11:08:27 PM#17
Originally posted by AlienShirt

I am sure all they could find was one guild stlling playing AoC on both sides of the pond.


 

 

  Dillig

Novice Member

Joined: 9/24/04
Posts: 72

11/04/08 12:42:09 AM#18

"Traders were taken out soon as the duping was discovered(fast), took a while to fix, lots of stuff was fixed and hot fixed immediately after launch, so no, you're wrong."
 

 

 Ah name one thing that got fixed in the first 2 months! saying lots of stuff got fixed dont make it so. Uniformed? I played beta from OCT. 07 and stopped playing the game about 2 or 3 months after. They didn't fix a damned thing in that time I was playing. oh wait your right they did finally fix the traders it took what a month and a half and that only got fixed cause of the duping bug!

 

 Just name me 1 thing that the players wanted fixed that got fixed.

oh wait here is one of your so called patches, this was the last patch I remember before I decided to cancel.

"Resolved several issues with the Arena access quest, hopefully it should work correctly this time, and this time we really mean it! (or poor Aquilus might meet with a very unfortunate end if he insists on being so troublesome in the future!)
Travel NPCs will no longer erroneously show the same destination multiple times
Altered the loot table of the Beguiler Demons in Potain so they are now dropping more appropriate loot."
 

 I will agree that FC did fix issues with the game, its just what they seen as easy fixes and what they wanted to fix not what really needed to be fixed. I mean how can you even sit here and defend them after 5 months of release and they still have not addressed raiding? good god man folks have been level 80 forever, yet they are still trying to find ways to stop progression and discourage raiding. like the latest tidbit about raid mobs ignoring the line of site so people can not hide from the dmg. No mention of fixing any of the raid mobs tho is there.

 

 

  AmazingAvery

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Joined: 1/16/07
Posts: 7095

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11/04/08 12:51:20 AM#19
Originally posted by Soupgoblin

Nukacola:

Please write more coherently. And please organize your post a bit better, it is difficult to tell what you are whinning about.

You are correct about your views of the AoC community, the reason for that is AoC is a bad game, bad games mean upset, whinney players. Why would you bother to write two guides for people you can't stand?

There are larger guilds, but they are on Cimmeria, the most populated server I know. Tranny doesn't hold a candle to Cimmeria's population.

And chiding people to "learn to play" when you play the absolutely easiest class in AoC is just silly (sort of like a Guardian telling a conquerer to "learn to tank better"). And any 14 year old with fraps can make PVP videos.

Congradulations on your new MMORPG account. You will have good company with the rest of the new members from AoC.

 

Avery:

Please stop throwing month old interviews that are full of outdated information up here on MMORPG, that is just sad. How old is the 2nd interview with the guild from Norway..I mean EU that you are going to put up later?

But the interview was very well written, so good job on that...


 

Hey mate the article was done about 2 weeks ago. Its not my fault when it gets put up - considering as you can tell from the first few lines "coming up on the 5 month old mark" it was pretty much very in line with the current state of affairs. The second part was wrote all at the same time - since then patch 3 has gone up. And a few other articles about that so it was a wait for this one. Infact this info is from alot of people right up until the day your sub ran out if I remember right. I know your fishing for some harder response from me, in your poor attempt at bad jibes. The second guild is actually Awakening.

There is no need to bait Nukacola, we both know your doing it.

As for the above poster questioning raiding. Have you read all the raid feedback on test server? They fixed Yakhmar pretty good and plenty of other encounters. When part 2 comes, you can get Awakening perspective from the same questions here is their website: http://www.awakening.minionsofarchaon.co.uk/  


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  Nukacola

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Posts: 2

11/04/08 1:51:52 AM#20
Originally posted by Soupgoblin

Nukacola:

Please write more coherently. And please organize your post a bit better, it is difficult to tell what you are whinning about.[/quote]

 

Right...

Don't make jabs when its obvious that i used [quote][/quote]

Took out each persons name as well, so nice try, if you can't remember what you wrote then... :>

Let me know how the quote function works :>

[quoting(since it doesn't work) your text:

You are correct about your views of the AoC community, the reason for that is AoC is a bad game, bad games mean upset, whinney players.[/quote]

AoC is not a bad game, it has flaws like any game, but the pvp is good and fluid, the only reason I play the game, I don't care about pve as it is mindnumbingly simple as opposed to pvp.

Would it be by any chance, that you are one of the upset whine players?

I would think so.

[quoting(since it doesn't work) your text:

There are larger guilds, but they are on Cimmeria, the most populated server I know. Tranny doesn't hold a candle to Cimmeria's population.[/quote]

Cimmeria is an RP-PvP server...And according to the last survey(in sept I think) Tyranny was the most populated server.


Like I said, large guilds have 30-40 active people, zerg guilds(there are 2 on Tyranny) pretty much spam recruit and I wouldn't be surprised if they had more than 50-60 easy, they don't matter, since zerg guilds fall apart sooner or later, they aren't guilds either, they are a swarm.

Again, a retarded statement, without any proof, you seem to be good at this.

 

[quoting(since it doesn't work) your text:

And chiding people to "learn to play" when you play the absolutely easiest class in AoC is just silly (sort of like a Guardian telling a conquerer to "learn to tank better").[end the quote] :>


Really?
Funny, considering that a bear shaman has to micromanage stuff on the fly pretty much all the time, it is by no means a simple class, you can keep taking jabs, but like I said, I got 2 guides behind me and I play a necromancer.

But I guess both of these classes are simple compared to <insert class you played>.

You don't know anything about the current state, so your opinion doesn't matter.

People do need to learn to play, as some mindnumbingly simple things get ignored and totally pointless whine threads are made(rogues whining about being knocked back...Rooted...Yet they have all the tools at their disposal to take care of most forms of CC)

[quoting(since it doesn't work) your text:

And any 14 year old with fraps can make PVP videos.[end quote] :>


Wow. NOW that was clever. I  .

[your text]

Congradulations on your new MMORPG account. You will have good company with the rest of the new members from AoC.[/end text]


I won't be joining this community, its full of people who flame for the sake of flaming, as veiled as it is, you're baiting and trolling, you don't know jack about the current situation yet you like to post your.

Thats ok, you have one, its just not informed and therefor holds no weight to this discussion.

Same thing happened on the siege videos that Avery posted, people attacked him saying that he increased the speed, made it a lot smoother, edited crap and made it so AoC can look better...

He didn't, the same videos(broken up in 5 parts) can be found on forums, they look exactly the same and the last 4 sieges I did were smooth and good, the last one(I wasn't there) people had problems with computers locking up.

WoW forums all over again heh, including the children(not talking about the age either). :>

 

 

 

 

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