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Originally posted by wjrasmussen
If it's so good, why are you here instead of concentratiing on playing the game? What I think is best, is if people on all sides, stop trying to persuade of dissuade people from any games. You like a game, you really don't need to say anything to anyone about it. Same goes to haters.
im suppose to play WAR 24/7? whatever, i can tell your one of those haters that i speak of. |
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11/03/08 12:51:05 PM#22
It is just more backlash to game developers failing to live up to the prerelease hype they build for their games. There has been a very long list of let downs over the last 4 years and people are getting tired of it. Even though Warhammer is one of the very few games to have a stable launch, there are very serious problems with the game in a variety of areas and it shows. Just looking at how many major issues patch 1.1 is targeting gives a decent idea of what currently isn't working. Mythic obviously cut corners and didn't finish the game so they could beat WOLTK to market. How badly that will hurt them in the long run isn't clear, but there is smoke to be seen and Mythic knows it.
I still play warhammer, because I think it is one of the very few games that has potential that could possibly be reached. However I can see why some people are upset. |
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Originally posted by Thunderous
thank you for honestly posting your feelings about WAR and AOC. i think you are bored/burned out on MMOs period. Trying to be innovative ends up with combat systems like AOC(horrible IMO). Being innovation brings things like RVR. WAR has alot of innovative features that were introduced to the MMO market. WOW has been around for 3 years. Lets see what WAR will be like in 3 years. my only gripe is they release these games too early. they need to finish them before having us be the lab rats. |
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11/03/08 1:23:11 PM#24
Originally posted by GaryM Most are trolls, pure and simple. Last year I tried out Guild Wars, and I didn't care for it and quit playing. Since then I've posted ZERO times in any Guild Wars forum, since I have no desire to discourage anyone from playing it. But then I'm not a troll, I have better things to do with my time. Like replying to a obvious flamebait thread? I always find it silly that people try to take the high horse on the gaming matter when they are as hopelessly addicted to it as the rest of us are. Anyway, look at the nge haters then come back and whine about it. Also less than 5%, hardly that even read and post on gaming forums so what we say here, and do here got little to no consequence if a game is successful or not. Let em fanboys and haters duke it out. Make for entertaining read for the rest of us |
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11/03/08 1:23:16 PM#25
Originally posted by lorndarken
ill answer your question and then with a follow up question . 1st , we hate what mythic did to the game, we were hoping for a great rvr game that they were promising us 2nd we wanted to lose ourselfs while playing the game ,but instead we got 10 min pillow fight grinds with the addition of the scenarios, which is something borrow from wow, why could mythic borrow more from its on game instead of others ? and now my question to you if warhammer is so great, why are you even on the forums ? , i mean you love this game so much, why are you not playing it right now ? instead you are defending a product that has failed. and how it failed is because the rvr in this game is not even that complexed , the rvr is and has yet to see the glory days of what daoc use to dish out, i mean c'mon, if it is so great why is it that no one is playing it for the rvr and instead people scenario grind all day instead ? Just thought you should know that the battlegrounds idea was originally in DAoC and also called "Battlegrounds" and they were instanced fights with level brackets. So the Scenarios are actually built on what DAoC had. I just think they didn't realize how many people would do them. They probably thought that they would be something that people would ignore and that the players needed more incentive to do scenarios than Open World RvR. Turns out that the players need more incentives to do Open World RvR. With those incentives seemingly being put into place, I think the scenarios and Open world Rvr will balance out in the future. Also, to declare this game as a Failure a month and a half out of the gate is very premature. Even if the game does worse than Mythic expected and has around 250-300k subs, it's still not a failure. --------------------------------------------- |
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11/03/08 1:59:17 PM#26
Originally posted by checkthis500 Just thought you should know that the battlegrounds idea was originally in DAoC and also called "Battlegrounds" and they were instanced fights with level brackets. So the Scenarios are actually built on what DAoC had. I just think they didn't realize how many people would do them. They probably thought that they would be something that people would ignore and that the players needed more incentive to do scenarios than Open World RvR. Turns out that the players need more incentives to do Open World RvR. With those incentives seemingly being put into place, I think the scenarios and Open world Rvr will balance out in the future. Also, to declare this game as a Failure a month and a half out of the gate is very premature. Even if the game does worse than Mythic expected and has around 250-300k subs, it's still not a failure.
you are half right and half wrong about some things, daoc never had scenarios, and the rvr zones were not time limited when going to the zones to be a part of some rvr, sure if you want open world in thoese rvr zones, but they had a pretty fair system, 1 keep , 3 realms, and people would attack or defend the keep. scenarios on the other had are a borrowed idea from wow, new frointeirs were more open world . commericaly the game is not a failure because they made a lot of money, but for what mythic was promising , which was a rvr based game, this is a failure if no one is doing the rvr in the game to begin with in comparison to that of daoc. i rest my case |
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11/03/08 2:01:56 PM#27
I've been playing WAR for about a week now and am really at a loss for anything extremely negative that I could say about the game...it takes the good parts of WoW and improves them, and then it does the things that WoW did poorly and either takes them out or turns them into something cooler...I'm having fun so far without feeling like I have to play all day in order to keep competetive. Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced. |
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11/03/08 2:05:06 PM#28
Originally posted by slask777 Like replying to a obvious flamebait thread? I always find it silly that people try to take the high horse on the gaming matter when they are as hopelessly addicted to it as the rest of us are. Anyway, look at the nge haters then come back and whine about it. Also less than 5%, hardly that even read and post on gaming forums so what we say here, and do here got little to no consequence if a game is successful or not. Let em fanboys and haters duke it out. Make for entertaining read for the rest of us Heh, I'm at work right now killing time while processes run, but you have a point about spending my time more wisely - point taken. As far as being entertained by semi-literate battles between fanboys and haters: no thanks. But at least you're honest about how you get your kicks. |
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11/03/08 2:20:21 PM#29
Originally posted by medafor
thank you for honestly posting your feelings about WAR and AOC. i think you are bored/burned out on MMOs period. Trying to be innovative ends up with combat systems like AOC(horrible IMO). Being innovation brings things like RVR. WAR has alot of innovative features that were introduced to the MMO market. WOW has been around for 3 years. Lets see what WAR will be like in 3 years. my only gripe is they release these games too early. they need to finish them before having us be the lab rats.
You are welcome for the reply and thanks for yours. In large part I agree with you, I am quite bored of the MMO industry. It still doesn't change the fact that the industry has taken many steps backwards. As for RvR, Dark Age of Camelot, which released in 2001, had RvR that was arguably equal to or better than what WAR has now. It also supported a much better character progression system. Games like Ultima Online, Dark Age of Camelot, Pre-CU SWG, they all offered the player such choice and such freedom. The skill systems were quite innovative as well. WoW is now 4 years old but I venture to say that EQ1 was the beginning of the end of innovation in the industry. WoW only sped up that process with its wide success. I believe that most veteran MMO games expect more and demand more from this industry than class systems, instanced worlds, poor crafting systems, traditional RPG combat, and the repetitive quests that MMO games offers today.
Tecmo Bowl. |
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11/03/08 2:21:05 PM#30
Originally posted by medafor
Every game sucks on this site if you go by the opinions of no life nerds. Most of them are here to vent frustrations from real life. |
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11/03/08 7:25:23 PM#31
Originally posted by medafor
Many people will tell you its WOW and AOC fans that are bitter, or they have no lives and are lonely, or some other bologna Truth is, peopel come here for the same reason people slow to look at a car wreck.... it's interesting.. period |
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11/03/08 7:49:42 PM#32
Originally posted by banthis
I wrote a blog on here about how people should view new games. Heres the link for anyone that cares to look at it.
http://www.mmorpg.com/blogs/onlinenow225/092008/2588_Playing-a-new-game-How-it-should-be-looked-at |
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11/04/08 12:54:23 AM#33
This forum isnt for sucking a devs b*lls, or for discussing game mechanics. Every single game I have played either has an official forum or a more popular community forum that has all these discussions neatly organised (ie Warhammer Alliance in this case).
People use this forum to discuss how good the game is with the larger MMO community and for others to have a browse through and decide if a game is for them. You could use the official forums, but most are locked to active game accounts. You also have to deal with the fact only the fans of the game willl be there and in some cases over zealous moderation of negative comments. So in answer to your question go to Warhammer Alliance to enjoy discussions with fans of the game. This place is for good and bad alike, fanbois and haters. |
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11/04/08 3:36:07 AM#34
Originally posted by ganbee
Yes message from a delusional troll. 3 months? copy paste this thread because after 3 months i will laugh at your stupid face. Hope you won't disappear or change nick like most of the pathetic trolls. |
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11/04/08 3:56:30 AM#35
WAR is far from a bad game. Unfortunately it relies heavily on a healthy server community to have fun. Server imbalance and bad retention rate killed the fun for me. I have since moved on. |
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11/04/08 4:44:33 AM#36
I moved on because what the game should have or could have been isnt what it is. Some of it is mythics fault some of it isnt. Regardless so long as a few servers have a healthy population it wont die. Its a decent game in its own right. I hope in the future someone can take some of there idea's (such as PQ's) and impliment it right. |
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11/04/08 4:50:23 AM#37
Maybe we are angry because Mythic didn't try harder? Maybe you are content because this is all you wanted? |
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11/04/08 6:12:51 AM#38
It's called loneliness. It's sad really............. |
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11/04/08 7:18:21 AM#39
Originally posted by wjrasmussen
If it's so good, why are you here instead of concentratiing on playing the game? What I think is best, is if people on all sides, stop trying to persuade of dissuade people from any games. You like a game, you really don't need to say anything to anyone about it. Same goes to haters. Lets see, the OP plays and enjoys the game and visits the forums of the game he plays -- and you want to know why ? Are you really this ignorant ? I have visited the forums of the various MMOs I have played since '99. it is a place to find out some of the latest gossip, to discuss some of the latest game developments and patches, to meet and chat with other people that play the same game you do. Please tell me this is not a real question you just asked -- if it is, you need some serious help. 
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11/04/08 7:19:19 AM#40
Originally posted by Baseline
QFT really.. "Do not fret! Your captain is about to enter Valhalla!" - General Beatrix of Alexandria "The acquisition of knowledge is of use to the intellect, for nothing can be loved or hated without first being known." - Leo da Vinci |
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