Originally posted by ardohain

i'll believe darkfall is released once i see it on the shelf. a physical box that i can open with a dvd install disc and a key code. i will not believe any release story until then...

then the game will probably never be released in your book, I beleive DFO will feature download only.

Originally posted by Ozmodan

Sorry, but the chances of Darkfall releasing this year and slim and none.  Anyone who thinks differently is depending on blind faith from a firm that has consistently NEVER met an announced date. Supposedly,  they are still in a very limited closed beta, if a game actually exists, because at this point NO ONE has ever seen the actual game.

Sorry if I seem a bit skeptical, but when an outfit like Adventurine cries wolf as many times as they have without ever showing the game or following through on a announced date, it is almost mandatory to be leary of anything they say.

They have never announced an official release or beta date.

There is recent footage of them playing the game for almost half an hour, plus 7 other gameplay videos and over 620 screenshots.

You fail.

Originally posted by theanimedude

All in all though, ready for release? You've got to be kidding me. PS, at the end of the video THE GAME CRASHES!!! Are you kidding me? HA.

They lose connection, it doesn't crash. Seriously, who these days *doesn't* know what the windows alt-tab animation looks like?

Originally posted by nileq

Originally posted by ardohain

i'll believe darkfall is released once i see it on the shelf. a physical box that i can open with a dvd install disc and a key code. i will not believe any release story until then...

 

then the game will probably never be released in your book, I beleive DFO will feature download only.

it will be on the shelf in EU because of AV

Originally posted by javac

Originally posted by Ozmodan

Sorry, but the chances of Darkfall releasing this year and slim and none.  Anyone who thinks differently is depending on blind faith from a firm that has consistently NEVER met an announced date. Supposedly,  they are still in a very limited closed beta, if a game actually exists, because at this point NO ONE has ever seen the actual game.

Sorry if I seem a bit skeptical, but when an outfit like Adventurine cries wolf as many times as they have without ever showing the game or following through on a announced date, it is almost mandatory to be leary of anything they say.

 

They have never announced an official release or beta date.

 

There is recent footage of them playing the game for almost half an hour, plus 7 other gameplay videos and over 620 screenshots.

 

You fail.

 

Excuse me, if you want to blindly believe that a company that has consistently failed to allow any outsider to actually play the game and report on it, actually has a playable game you are truely overly trusting.  All those videos only show what they want you to see.  It is so easy to stage video of what you know as working in the game and then put it on the web.   You can do that with any game that is years from release. 

If they have such a great game then why are they hiding it?  Huh?  The only reason to hide anything, especially in this industry, is if you have something to hide.    So far Adventurine has done nothing to make us trust them.  They are basically good at hype and disinformation, beyond that who knows.

Personally I would love to see one of these Indie firms put out something worthwhile.  The big gorilla's in this industry won't budge from the Wow mold and will only change if someone small takes a chance and succeeds.  

Originally posted by openedge1

The issue is just earlier this year this game was noted as Vaporware...

Now, it will release for Christmas? And the fact people think this game will rock?

Can we not look at Age of Cona or WAR to see what Hype gets ya?

 

This game smells like fail.

The devs never poured loads into marketting and hype like the aoc or war devs, infact Darkfall never received any hype other than what a few fans gave it and the hype is due it being the only real full pvp game in the making for quite a few years.

Originally posted by Ozmodan

 

Originally posted by javac

Originally posted by Ozmodan

Sorry, but the chances of Darkfall releasing this year and slim and none.  Anyone who thinks differently is depending on blind faith from a firm that has consistently NEVER met an announced date. Supposedly,  they are still in a very limited closed beta, if a game actually exists, because at this point NO ONE has ever seen the actual game.

Sorry if I seem a bit skeptical, but when an outfit like Adventurine cries wolf as many times as they have without ever showing the game or following through on a announced date, it is almost mandatory to be leary of anything they say.

 

They have never announced an official release or beta date.

 

There is recent footage of them playing the game for almost half an hour, plus 7 other gameplay videos and over 620 screenshots.

 

You fail.

 

 

Excuse me, if you want to blindly believe that a company that has consistently failed to allow any outsider to actually play the game and report on it, actually has a playable game you are truely overly trusting.  All those videos only show what they want you to see.  It is so easy to stage video of what you know as working in the game and then put it on the web.   You can do that with any game that is years from release. 

If they have such a great game then why are they hiding it?  Huh?  The only reason to hide anything, especially in this industry, is if you have something to hide.    So far Adventurine has done nothing to make us trust them.  They are basically good at hype and disinformation, beyond that who knows.

Personally I would love to see one of these Indie firms put out something worthwhile.  The big gorilla's in this industry won't budge from the Wow mold and will only change if someone small takes a chance and succeeds.  

 

Excuse me if you only seem to get your info from this website and not the official one.

They have welcomed at least 2 people to play their game live in the studios and have reported on it.

They arent hiding anything.  Unless you consider a 17min 100% ingame footage video, and a 30min+ live demonstration of the game being played online (not some offline mode) at a convention hiding...then i dont know.

And as far as them only showing us what they wanted to....thats silly.  If that was true they wouldnt have been playing it online.  Im sure the internet going down at the end of the video wasnt planned lol.

And even though it was the internet and not the game...lets just say they are lieing about that for the sake of arguement.  What game still in beta doesnt have some crashes?  Hell WAR still has CTD issues and its a few months after release!!!

I am taking a two month vacation from work mid December to mid February just to play Darkfall non stop.

I already feel the excitement of early EQ days.

Originally posted by Samuraisword

I am taking a two month vacation from work mid December to mid February just to play Darkfall non stop.

Oh boy are you going to be pissed if they push back the release date to March.

Originally posted by theanimedude

So, I just watched the video that was previously linked... and here's what I see:

The UI -- The interface rivals that of Anarchy Online... that's right, an age old, ancient MMO. That is EXACTLY what this interface looks like. There's no style, no graphics, just plain blue lines, text, and black, hooray?

The Animation -- The characters walk like they have sticks up their arses, and look at that mount animation... the mount is bobbing like a freaking pendulum, congrats on the least life-like animations ever boys, congrats.

Walking -- Yes... walking. Seriously. I have never seen anyone walk that slow. What, are we going to attack each other at a snails pace, and see who gets bored first?

Graphics -- The graphics look good. Not great, but good. Everything looks a little too plastic for me, but still, it's not that bad.

All in all though, ready for release? You've got to be kidding me. PS, at the end of the video THE GAME CRASHES!!! Are you kidding me? HA.

If you're looking forward to this game, cool... but honestly, if not even the devs can make it look fun, who can?

EDIT: Here's the video that was previously linked, if anyone wants to see what i'm talking about.

First of all, they lost connection to the greek internet, the game didn't crash. way to pay attention!

And your only bad points for this game are the graphics and animations? This must be the best game ever because evrything else is perfect. Seriously, if you want shiny graphics go play AoC.

It's unbelievable how retarded the MMORPG.com community is, learn to read up on something before you open your hole.

You guys are a bunch of stupid kids who want to play free korean MMOs with shiny graphics and spit on anything that isn't exactly that. If you are too blind to see what Darkfall could be then that is really a shame...

Originally posted by flakmonky

 A paltry one million subs? What are you smoking? One million subs is a huge number compared to most MMOs out there. If you would compare it to WoW then I would suggest that look up what an outlier is. WoW is not indicative of the average MMO. In fact, it's subscriber base is so incogruous with that of most MMOs that it is quite likely in that catagory where it's number is thrown out when determining the average (outlier).

Yet, console games can sell through a million, 5 million, etc...Yes, single player games..but MMO's are making headway.

WoW has proven this is not a niche market. WAR sold 1.2 million boxes according to their charts, AoC 800k boxes (note, I am not saying SUBS...thanks)...YET

They cannot retain that number....why?

Quality is key.

I will agree that someone said Darkfall has been in production so long that maybe it WILL be good. But, so far, they have so much they wish the game to do, and over promising seems to be the norm for MOST games.

Like I said, when I see an MMO keep a million, then I will believe it is worth a crap.

Darkfall will not be that game.

A good MMO is one with the highest population...?

thats a load of bull

Ill believe this game releases when it actually releases. Nuff said!

Originally posted by Krayzjoel

Ill believe this game releases when it actually releases. Nuff said!

 

fair enough heh

Originally posted by Samuraisword

I am taking a two month vacation from work mid December to mid February just to play Darkfall non stop.

I already feel the excitement of early EQ days.

Nice sig

But yea...maybe you know something we dont...thats a hell of a comittment to a december launch.

Originally posted by SXRchosen1

A good MMO is one with the highest population...?

thats a load of bull

No, an MMO that wont shut it's doors (Hellgate, Auto Assault), or have population issues (AoC, LOTRO, Vanguard, TR) will have a million players or more.

It at least will tell me that the game must be worth playing if so many others play it.

11 million have not been wrong so far.

Originally posted by Fargin

They have been testing this game with paid betatesters for years. So they only have to do stress testing and give people a chance to test the game for free so they can say if they like it or not.

So everything shows that they are pretty much ready for a launch in December.

     I dont know why but everything about this game feels shaky to me.........The only way I woul ever even give this game a look is if they have a open beta for the public....If they are going to pull the "oh join such and such website for $$ and you can play our beta" then I have no interest.........I cant quite put my finger on it but I have a bad feeling about this game.

Originally posted by Theocritus

Originally posted by Fargin

They have been testing this game with paid betatesters for years. So they only have to do stress testing and give people a chance to test the game for free so they can say if they like it or not.

So everything shows that they are pretty much ready for a launch in December.

 

     I dont know why but everything about this game feels shaky to me.........The only way I woul ever even give this game a look is if they have a open beta for the public....If they are going to pull the "oh join such and such website for $$ and you can play our beta" then I have no interest.........I cant quite put my finger on it but I have a bad feeling about this game.

They promised everyone would get a chance to play the game for free before they had to buy it.

Originally posted by openedge1

Originally posted by SXRchosen1

A good MMO is one with the highest population...?

thats a load of bull

No, an MMO that wont shut it's doors (Hellgate, Auto Assault), or have population issues (AoC, LOTRO, Vanguard, TR) will have a million players or more.

It at least will tell me that the game must be worth playing if so many others play it.

11 million have not been wrong so far.

LotrO doesn't have population issues... Just because an MMO has less than 1 mill subs doesn't mean it has issues. You are a stupid sheep that can only like something when others like it.

Do you really want to play the same game forever? do you want everyone to keep copying EQ?

Why can't you give MMOs that actually try to be innovative a chance?

Originally posted by Fargin

Originally posted by openedge1

Originally posted by SXRchosen1

A good MMO is one with the highest population...?

thats a load of bull

No, an MMO that wont shut it's doors (Hellgate, Auto Assault), or have population issues (AoC, LOTRO, Vanguard, TR) will have a million players or more.

It at least will tell me that the game must be worth playing if so many others play it.

11 million have not been wrong so far.

 

LotrO doesn't have population issues... Just because an MMO has less than 1 mill subs doesn't mean it has issues. You are a stupid sheep that can only like something when others like it.

Do you really want to play the same game forever? do you want everyone to keep copying EQ?

Why can't you give MMOs that actually try to be innovative a chance?

Yet, I do NOT want the same thing. That is my issue. Darkfall "talks" innovation, but so far I have not SEEN anything to say this will be as it is.

LOTRO is a sheep game, WAR is a sheep game. If Darkfall even tries to be somewhat different and works out of the box...cool.

But, I have seen nothing to prove to me it will be what everyone says it is.