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  Rhoklaw

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11/02/08 9:16:46 AM#1

This is actually a joke about a battle I just endured which for the life of me makes no sense. I'm a 26 Warrior Priest and I got tangled up with a 21 Shaman. Ok, I'm thinking, 5 levels his senior in open RvR, should be a piece of cake.

I couldn't have been more wrong!

We fought for over 15 minutes straight folks with no end in sight, as we both constantly had full health. Granted, my health rarely ever moved, I did get him down to about 25-30% health before he'd bounce back up to full.

I know WAR is all about team based RvR, but uhm, you WILL still have that occasional 1 vs. 1 which is actually more prevailant than anything right now. Healer vs. Healer has to be the most ridiculous thing ever created in MMO history when it comes to WAR. Neither one of us could manage to DPS the other to death. WHY?!? Because healers have unlimited "mana" reserves or power. This is the only MMO that I know of where healers can sit there and heal, heal, heal, heal and never run out of power.

Bad game design...

  Kasimir

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11/02/08 9:21:33 AM#2

And had you been 5 levels below him, I am sure you would have praised your superior heal skills. "I was so much smaller than him and he did not even come close to killing me! Me leet!!

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  EvolvedMonky

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11/02/08 9:36:45 AM#3

If you speced for it WP have an ability that decreases the effectivness of healing.  Sounds like neither of u speced for damage.

  Gyrus

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11/02/08 9:42:14 AM#4
Originally posted by Rhoklaw

This is actually a joke about a battle I just endured which for the life of me makes no sense. I'm a 26 Warrior Priest and I got tangled up with a 21 Shaman. Ok, I'm thinking, 5 levels his senior in open RvR, should be a piece of cake.

I couldn't have been more wrong!

We fought for over 15 minutes straight folks with no end in sight, as we both constantly had full health. Granted, my health rarely ever moved, I did get him down to about 25-30% health before he'd bounce back up to full.

I know WAR is all about team based RvR, but uhm, you WILL still have that occasional 1 vs. 1 which is actually more prevailant than anything right now. Healer vs. Healer has to be the most ridiculous thing ever created in MMO history when it comes to WAR. Neither one of us could manage to DPS the other to death. WHY?!? Because healers have unlimited "mana" reserves or power. This is the only MMO that I know of where healers can sit there and heal, heal, heal, heal and never run out of power.

Bad game design...

Bad design?

In this case I don't see it...

Wizard v Wizard battles are supposed to be epic type affairs in most fantasy stories?

As you say... it's supposed to be team based game play.

And if either one of you had easily walked over the other this tread would be on OMFG MY CLASS IS NERFED!!!11!1!!!!1!1!

And yes - the whole point to WAR as i understand it is war without end?

 

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  Majinash

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11/02/08 9:47:43 AM#5

1: WOW duels, holy pallys and restro druids, put them against each other and the fights never end.

2: Lineage2.  bishop vs elven elder, even more so early in the game before they added mana burns

3: Guild wars, 2 heal or prot spec monks, or resto spec rits.

 

most games healers specced for healing will never kill another healer specced for healing, if they could... either their healing is so pathetic a healer could kill them through it, or their damage is so overpowered that even being specced for healing they could still kill through a healbot.

 

and as a final note.  if the shaman had been 26 against your 21, sadly I think you would have lost.  they would have played with your AP so much that you would have ended up helpless.

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  Rhoklaw

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11/02/08 10:01:36 AM#6
Originally posted by Majinash

1: WOW duels, holy pallys and restro druids, put them against each other and the fights never end.

2: Lineage2.  bishop vs elven elder, even more so early in the game before they added mana burns

3: Guild wars, 2 heal or prot spec monks, or resto spec rits.

 

most games healers specced for healing will never kill another healer specced for healing, if they could... either their healing is so pathetic a healer could kill them through it, or their damage is so overpowered that even being specced for healing they could still kill through a healbot.

 

and as a final note.  if the shaman had been 26 against your 21, sadly I think you would have lost.  they would have played with your AP so much that you would have ended up helpless.


 

Then I guess its time to roll a new class, cause this game just keeps pissin off healer classes. Its nice to be able to heal and all, but this game isn't about healing at the moment, its about who can do more DPS than the other guy.

When it comes down to it, WAR is about DPS, not healing. Which is why I've seen scenarios with mostly BW or Magus and Sorceress kickin butt and taking names later. Game is flawed fundamentally in an attempt to get healers to do something besides heal which apparently is all they are good at.

As a final note, healer classes are great in groups, but aside from scenarios, theres not a lot of that going on. No wonder theres so many BW's and WE's, cause thats the prime classes to play.

  scott21493

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11/02/08 10:12:40 AM#7

If you don't like healing why would you pick a healing class?  Most people would think that, you know, healers heal and are not great with DPS.

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11/02/08 11:06:31 AM#8

Warrior Priests are the worse class design I have ever seen. Many people thinkthis is like the paladin a la WoW. At least in WoW you could specialize for tanking and it worked gloriously. WP cant tank and cant heal as good as other healer classes.

I am surprised the WP cant use a shield and one handed blunt.  WP sometimes are portrayed with a shield and one handed weapon yet they cant in-game. Guess the Knight of Blazing Sun will be the one hero that can amazingly carry a shield???

  Ralsar

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11/02/08 12:23:01 PM#9

Healers are essential in WAR.  However you aren't made to fight another healer.  Just like my Marauder isn't made to take down tanks.  Each class has its role to fufill and his particular targets on the battlefield.  Learn your class, get out of the lower levels and you'll start to see it better.

  FreddyNoNose

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11/02/08 12:55:24 PM#10
Originally posted by Rhoklaw

This is actually a joke about a battle I just endured which for the life of me makes no sense. I'm a 26 Warrior Priest and I got tangled up with a 21 Shaman. Ok, I'm thinking, 5 levels his senior in open RvR, should be a piece of cake.

I couldn't have been more wrong!

We fought for over 15 minutes straight folks with no end in sight, as we both constantly had full health. Granted, my health rarely ever moved, I did get him down to about 25-30% health before he'd bounce back up to full.

I know WAR is all about team based RvR, but uhm, you WILL still have that occasional 1 vs. 1 which is actually more prevailant than anything right now. Healer vs. Healer has to be the most ridiculous thing ever created in MMO history when it comes to WAR. Neither one of us could manage to DPS the other to death. WHY?!? Because healers have unlimited "mana" reserves or power. This is the only MMO that I know of where healers can sit there and heal, heal, heal, heal and never run out of power.

Bad game design...

You know it's based around team based rvr.  But you don't seem to want to believe it.  A duck is a duck.
 

  Majinash

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11/02/08 1:29:21 PM#11

great game design, mana pools are old and energy pools are far more fun.  its why I find guild wars PvP far more fun and balanced than WoW or Lineage2 PvP.  and you can run out of AP, Archmages do quite often, we are AP hogs... hopefully once they fix our tactics it should be better, but right now its painful.

 

and WAR is all about heals and tanks, not DPS.  you see BW and sorcs because people love to DPS, always the highest class choice.  but a team with healers and tanks will beat out a DPS team.

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