Sorry Zspawn, I forgot you were using the EU clients. Hopefully something similar will be offered for the EU people.

Well I did play WoW and it's a grindfest in the end.

I played it for 3 years and a half and I have like 3 level 70s all full epicced out and been up to Hyjal.

Thing is the game is about an open world but to be honest it's really small.

Why ? Ok let's see - if you wanna hardcore raid all you do is fly to raid and go inside. Or even worse wait at a major city and be summoned....

If you wanna PvP you just dwell in the battlemasters room and queue to NPCs for either arena or BGs...

From all MMOs  I played LOTRO EQ2 and VG have the open world feeling cause you travel constantly. EQ2 was probably the best with vast number of areas...

Anyway you shouldn't compare DDO with LOTRO / WoW and tell me to get that cause I already mentioned we are gonna play LOTRO. But I can see myself playing LOTRO *AND* DDO simply because DDO has no open world, travelling, crafting grinds or all that. I can just jump in a dungeon it seems and complete it...

That way I think it can be played in conjunction with another MMO :)

Btw I already got the game it was 4.99 as I mentioned with a free month !

Originally posted by zspawn

 

Btw I already got the game it was 4.99 as I mentioned with a free month !

So what's the status? Still having fun? What classes did you settle on?

And most important did you EU players find out officially yet when you are getting Mod 8?

The usual EU practice is to say we will get it a week or two after the US, in which time the US has problems (sometimes exploit blocking rather than problems) so it is put off until the first patch is available. The exact same thing has happened with Mod 8, we were supposed to get it yesterday (13th), but was delayed, with no new date given.

It is a bit of a shame that the time gap tends to mean we have a lot of the surprise sucked out of any new module. Not so much of a problem with new content, but events such as the devil invasion are pretty much ruined by it ending in the US before the EU starts.

Originally posted by Dr.Rock

The usual EU practice is to say we will get it a week or two after the US, in which time the US has problems (sometimes exploit blocking rather than problems) so it is put off until the first patch is available. The exact same thing has happened with Mod 8, we were supposed to get it yesterday (13th), but was delayed, with no new date given.

It is a bit of a shame that the time gap tends to mean we have a lot of the surprise sucked out of any new module. Not so much of a problem with new content, but events such as the devil invasion are pretty much ruined by it ending in the US before the EU starts.

It really is a shame that events are run in such a way that they can be ruined for the EU players.  I expect modules to be ruined due to people playing the test server, but special events would be nice if they ran some for you guys in the EU first. This should be for all games as it seems the EU servers are always one of the fuller and as such should be treated more equally.

There are alot of games out there that can be considered having duo content.  I don't quite know what you really want or don't want out of a MMORPG to tell for certain sorry.

Most of the game I know of that 2 people can have fun spending time together doing stuff are usually pretty challenging games, or very harsh to either your time or your money, or both even.

If you edit and give more preferences in a game I might be able to help out better.  However, since this is the D&D online section.  I'll recommend you not choose D&D online for couples, but hey, I can be wrong.

Well I haven't had the chance to play that much, plus I'm waiting for the new Mod for the starting area (and my gf to arrive on Monday so we can play together).

I rolled a fighter since I'm mostly a melee guy... I liked the way the characters move and such, I've done some dungeons but I'm looking for a guide for newbies to understand how the game works (ranks, levels or whatever).

I like that you have many choices on how to build your character and that I can mostly jump in do a dungeon and logout.

A lot of people complain about lack of open world but hey, I got LOTRO for that. I just like instancing (I did it a lot in WoW) so DDO is perfect for me so far !

BTW: Do monsters always die 1hit ?:P

Oh Neosai replied while I was :p

Well my gf used to play Guild Wars, that was her first MMO....We couldn't play together cause she was living in a +8 timezone so we never tried together...

I did try it with a friend tho but moving around together in group seemed like a chore :\

Then she moved in with me for 4 months so we gave WoW a chance.

Levelling and instancing together from level 1 was the most fun I ever had in an MMO (even if I was playing 2 years of WoW and doing endgame with another char).

Anyhow, WoW grew a bit stale when we capped... She's more into exploring and questing, reading the descriptions etc (thus we will play LotRo) however she liked instancing and raiding a lot - but WoW was too time consuming so she got bored of farming a 5man dungeon for -1- item or badges or raid for DKP 4 nights a week 4 hours a day... So we needed something of our own pace :)

I'm looking for a "2nd MMO" just to break the monotony of levelling up - So it's kinda pointless to play for example LotRO and EQ2 I guess - But LotRO and DDO seems like a sweet combination for some reason...

If you do the dungeons on elite pretty sure you're not going to be killing them in one hit.

Mod 8 would be good for you like it was me. It has builds at the beginning when you create your character on how you want it to be developed out over time.

Originally posted by zspawn

Oh Neosai replied while I was :p

 

Well my gf used to play Guild Wars, that was her first MMO....We couldn't play together cause she was living in a +8 timezone so we never tried together...

I did try it with a friend tho but moving around together in group seemed like a chore :\

 

Then she moved in with me for 4 months so we gave WoW a chance.

Levelling and instancing together from level 1 was the most fun I ever had in an MMO (even if I was playing 2 years of WoW and doing endgame with another char).

 

Anyhow, WoW grew a bit stale when we capped... She's more into exploring and questing, reading the descriptions etc (thus we will play LotRo) however she liked instancing and raiding a lot - but WoW was too time consuming so she got bored of farming a 5man dungeon for -1- item or badges or raid for DKP 4 nights a week 4 hours a day... So we needed something of our own pace :)

I'm looking for a "2nd MMO" just to break the monotony of levelling up - So it's kinda pointless to play for example LotRO and EQ2 I guess - But LotRO and DDO seems like a sweet combination for some reason...

My hubby and I played DDO together for about a year and loved it. I still play but he has returned to pnp style. As for just the two of us. I ran a cleric and he played a barbarian. There were few quests where we actually needed someone else in party (rogue for instance). Raids are a bit different though. Most raids are completable with as few as 5 people. Some can be soloed, I am not uber l33t by any stretch of the imagination so I have not soloed any raid to date. However, as a couple, we had a blast and in the US on Khyber server, you will find lots of couples running together. You will also find full families running together for that matter. Give it a 10 day trial and check out Korthos village together. Everything on the island can be done with just the two of you in party.

Originally posted by zspawn

Oh Neosai replied while I was :p

 

Well my gf used to play Guild Wars, that was her first MMO....We couldn't play together cause she was living in a +8 timezone so we never tried together...

I did try it with a friend tho but moving around together in group seemed like a chore :\

 

Then she moved in with me for 4 months so we gave WoW a chance.

Levelling and instancing together from level 1 was the most fun I ever had in an MMO (even if I was playing 2 years of WoW and doing endgame with another char).

 

Anyhow, WoW grew a bit stale when we capped... She's more into exploring and questing, reading the descriptions etc (thus we will play LotRo) however she liked instancing and raiding a lot - but WoW was too time consuming so she got bored of farming a 5man dungeon for -1- item or badges or raid for DKP 4 nights a week 4 hours a day... So we needed something of our own pace :)

I'm looking for a "2nd MMO" just to break the monotony of levelling up - So it's kinda pointless to play for example LotRO and EQ2 I guess - But LotRO and DDO seems like a sweet combination for some reason...

Yep pretyt much agree that this is the best plan for you.  DDO is different and a good diversion.  LOTRO and EQ2 seems pretty pointless to play simultaneously to me and i have played both.

EQ2 is a fine game for what it is but, IMO, LOTRO is better all raound and certainly more of the pace you mention here.  There is definitely a certain WoW like grind to the raiding and such in EQ2.  While that exists in LOTRO it is by no means necessary and this is coming from someone who detests the reputation grinds in LOTRO.  Also LOTRO is chock full of small intimate kinships (guilds).  I would say they are the majority and the big time raiding, hardcore, whatever are tolerated by not really held in any special regard by most people.

Also with Moria the exploration end of things definitely get taken up a notch.  EQ2 has some real good exploration too with its expansions and packs and various other things.  But it has nothing like Moria.

Both good games, I think LOTRO suits your needs better though.  I like EQ2 but parts of LOTRO are just nice.  The shire is just restful.  Doing the quickpost quests is sometimes just a great diversion and I really have no special love or lie of messenger quests.  Some of the cinematic parts of LOTRO are great.  I got to play a session as a dwarf and see the release of the Moria Balrog.  Got to fight off the watcher to enter Moria.  DDO has nothing of the kind.   DDO is for kicking ass and taking names.

Originally posted by Neosai

There are alot of games out there that can be considered having duo content.  I don't quite know what you really want or don't want out of a MMORPG to tell for certain sorry.

Most of the game I know of that 2 people can have fun spending time together doing stuff are usually pretty challenging games, or very harsh to either your time or your money, or both even.

If you edit and give more preferences in a game I might be able to help out better.  However, since this is the D&D online section.  I'll recommend you not choose D&D online for couples, but hey, I can be wrong.

DDO is fine for a couple like he describes if they just want to have fun and not be super duper uber.

If you want to run the hardest stuff on elite and be super duper uber.  Then well frankly it does get grindy and is not possible for a couple.  You need run raids farm the same instance over and over over for jsut one drop.  You need to farm the high end stuff for "crafting" materils over and over and over.

Otherwise you are just fine.  That stuff is not really necessary ro run just about any content on normal or maybe even hard. 

However I would warn you to not necessarily expect DDO to last forever for you.  Eventually you will have run everything and maybe not want to do the endgame grind.  I personally will not be doing the green steel item grind.  Nor will I run reaver 50 times to get a chattering ring.  Just not going to happen, I'd rather quit the game.

Also keep in mind DDO is kind of split between the power grinders and the a more experience oriented group.  I personally powergame my character to a certain degree but I won't grind to do it.  So I kind of fall in between these groups.  They kind of don't like each other much.  

Anyway you can play DDO however you like and be ok.  But there are probably apsects to it you will simply not want to do.  It has a good bit of longevity with multiple builds and alts and what not.  And you should not really feel like you have to "keep up with the jones".  Don't get me wrong there are tons of twinks around and definitely elitists but a significant portion of the game have not bought into that idea as well.  So it is not a given.

As your main MMO this may be problem eventually.  In that people who decided on a main MMO tend to take it well too seriously.

The thing both Turbine games seem to share, for some reason I do not know, is that you really can play the games your own way to a pretty decent degree when you are not to worried about other people and have a small number of like minded people.  LOTRO is especially this way, but DDO is also this way.

I mean DDO has perma-death guilds that delete their chars on the first death.  You really can play however you like.  But don't get me wrong here, I don't thin kthe high-end of DDO , the min/max running only on elite as fast as possible crowd is for you at all.  Not at all.  I would try to avoid that.

Originally posted by gestalt11

I personally will not be doing the green steel item grind.  Nor will I run reaver 50 times to get a chattering ring. 

Anyway, you can play DDO however you like and be ok.  It has a good bit of longevity with multiple builds and alts and what not.  And you should not really feel like you have to "keep up with the jones".  Don't get me wrong there are tons of twinks around and definitely elitists but a significant portion of the game have not bought into that idea as well.  So it is not a given.

I mean DDO has perma-death guilds that delete their chars on the first death.  You really can play however you like. 

Green Steel item crafting is a grind.  No question about it. Oddly enough, it can be a lot of fun when running with well natured people.   ;)

You can run the Reaver a Bazillion time and you're not going to get the Chattering Ring, but that's because it's in the Twlight Forge and you have to defeat the Titan for a chance to loot it.  :P

Originally posted by mindspat

Originally posted by gestalt11

I personally will not be doing the green steel item grind.  Nor will I run reaver 50 times to get a chattering ring. 

Anyway, you can play DDO however you like and be ok.  It has a good bit of longevity with multiple builds and alts and what not.  And you should not really feel like you have to "keep up with the jones".  Don't get me wrong there are tons of twinks around and definitely elitists but a significant portion of the game have not bought into that idea as well.  So it is not a given.

I mean DDO has perma-death guilds that delete their chars on the first death.  You really can play however you like. 

Green Steel item crafting is a grind.  No question about it. Oddly enough, it can be a lot of fun when running with well natured people.   ;)

You can run the Reaver a Bazillion time and you're not going to get the Chattering Ring, but that's because it's in the Twlight Forge and you have to defeat the Titan for a chance to loot it.  :P

 

 

Say what you will about Mod 8, but the 'crafting' does avoid the ingredient grind.. insofar as it is random and you are guaranteed a complete item if you complete all four 'refuge' quests and the optional at the end of Stealer of Souls...

Originally posted by moorewr

Originally posted by mindspat

Originally posted by gestalt11

I personally will not be doing the green steel item grind.  Nor will I run reaver 50 times to get a chattering ring. 

Anyway, you can play DDO however you like and be ok.  It has a good bit of longevity with multiple builds and alts and what not.  And you should not really feel like you have to "keep up with the jones".  Don't get me wrong there are tons of twinks around and definitely elitists but a significant portion of the game have not bought into that idea as well.  So it is not a given.

I mean DDO has perma-death guilds that delete their chars on the first death.  You really can play however you like. 

Green Steel item crafting is a grind.  No question about it. Oddly enough, it can be a lot of fun when running with well natured people.   ;)

You can run the Reaver a Bazillion time and you're not going to get the Chattering Ring, but that's because it's in the Twlight Forge and you have to defeat the Titan for a chance to loot it.  :P

 

 

Say what you will about Mod 8, but the 'crafting' does avoid the ingredient grind.. insofar as it is random and you are guaranteed a complete item if you complete all four 'refuge' quests and the optional at the end of Stealer of Souls...

I'm ok with Mod 8's crafting although someone did drop the ball with the design of the rune sytsem.  They should have introduced Named Runes which provide specific affects on items.  These Named Runes should have been in the Optional Chests for the three prerequisite quests for Stealer of Souls.   This would have encouraged more people to run the quests, the optionals and SoS.

Originally posted by Sevenwind

Originally posted by mindspat

Originally posted by Sevenwind

I totally agree with you on this. My highest is lvl 9 with a lot of alts just because of this "dead zone".

What are some good dungeons between 7-11?

Tangleroot Gorge, Threnal, erh..VoN.  You can sort quests by level which would also help you get favor for the qeusts while getting exp.  . 

 

Ok I did one long one I can't remember the name. A series of caves, then it contines outside and you go up the mountain and it finishes up top. It took all night to complete and I got a batfang earring. Has perm feather fall on it.

What dungeon was that? Does that ring a bell?

That's Co6.  Tempest's Spine and Xoriat Cipher are very good 8-10 quests, along with VoN series.

Tothe OP:  Me and my Husband play on THelanis and we often duo stuff together.  THere are ALOT of couples in the game.