And, I mean, completely free. For awhile, at least.

http://forums.ryzom.com/showthread.php?t=32434

LET'S ROLL?!

No one has talked about this game in a while.

With the lack of anything new added to the game and the Free play probably ending soon I don't see Ryzom lasting much longer to be honest.

Majority of the main land is empty I really think maybe 3-4k people play this game.

During Prime time a couple days ago I went to every major city and counted 9 players, such a shame.

Everyone wants a sandbox but when one is staring right at their face they look the other way.

Too bad, I actually enjoyed the game.

Edit: I keep Ryzom in my games played List cause I have hope for the game, lets hope the devs fix the glaring problems with this game.

I want a sandobx game but I also want a fully 3D environment.

Originally posted by altairzq

I want a sandobx game but I also want a fully 3D environment.

Ryzoms world isnt 3D?

or are you just complaining about the lack of jumping?

I have valid complaints when it comes to ryzom, the whole lack of jumping argument is crazy.

" I can't jump so I can't get into this game" Wtf?

I bunch you nuts in the same group of crazy people as the guys that complain about broken immersion do to zoning

Originally posted by Devour

And, I mean, completely free. For awhile, at least.

http://forums.ryzom.com/showthread.php?t=32434

LET'S ROLL?!

Let's not and say we did.

 Spoiler alert; it isn't free forever. It's just a long trial period, when they have enough players addicted, they'll start asking money for it.

It will only stay free until the end of oktober

Originally posted by kingtommyboy

It will only stay free until the end of oktober

At least the end of october, which is 3 days.. :) My bet is untill the end of 2008.

Originally posted by metalhead980

Originally posted by altairzq

I want a sandobx game but I also want a fully 3D environment.

 

Ryzoms world isnt 3D?

or are you just complaining about the lack of jumping?

I have valid complaints when it comes to ryzom, the whole lack of jumping argument is crazy.

" I can't jump so I can't get into this game" Wtf?

I bunch you nuts in the same group of crazy people as the guys that complain about broken immersion do to zoning

What I find crazy is being glued to the terrain, but to each his own.

Ryzom is a great game with alot of Sandbox elements. It's far superior to many new MMOrpg. You can even design your own quests and such for other players.. it's cool and fun.

If the lack of jumping turns you off... I seriously don't know what to say lol. Go back to WOW ?

You get what you pay for.

Originally posted by Ponico

Ryzom is a great game with alot of Sandbox elements. It's far superior to many new MMOrpg. You can even design your own quests and such for other players.. it's cool and fun.

If the lack of jumping turns you off... I seriously don't know what to say lol. Go back to WOW ?

Well, if you are so pissed off by my personal choice and want to insult me in a way, yes I guess you can say that. But it truly makes you look a bit silly.

Just making clear I don't want to bunny jump, just want to feel the freedom a true 3D environment gives.

Jumping is important, IMO, not for bunny hopping combat, but because if it doesn't exit it causes a feeling of claustrophobia and restriction leading to frustration. It's similar to isometric 2d games. When I play an isometric 2d game, I'm constantly trying to scroll up to see the sky and the horizon, but I never can. I feel claustrophobic.

Without jumping, the smallest obstacle has to be walked around, instead of jumped over. It's very frustrating after playing a full 3d game where you can jump over small obstacles. I can see where I want to go, but I can't get there in what would be a normal manner, to simply jump over the log. No, I have to walk around. It's a pain in hte arse.

That being said, from all I'ver heard Ryzom has some good sandbox elements  in the game, and I do wish there were more games with these sorts of elements.

Well a sandbox also needs content IF you don't make core features like changing the world your core.

Really there's just crafting crafting, combat, faction quests(which are craft X, gather X and kill X), and a small handful of lore quests(of which all of them aren't in game, and some that actually 'hurt' your character peramently).  Most of which just affects your character... kill a mob and it'll spawn back before 5 mins is up, kill a boss it'll be back the next day.  Take control of territory/outpost and it looks the same but gives loot to your guild instead.

Sure in WumOnline there's just crafting, and combat... but everything you do directly affects the world in some way or form.  Kill a mob it's corpse will be around for a day or two, it'll attract nearby predators/scavengers during that time.  Control an area you can build your houses, have storage, can make farms, and change the land to your liking.

Basically it's a lot more sandbox than Everquest/WoW but only because it's missing some of the linearity and lets people plot their own course.   But not to the extent of games that are paraded as a sandbox, basically below EvE on the 'numberline'.  And it needs more mechanics for me to want to play it.

Originally posted by altairzq

Originally posted by Ponico

Ryzom is a great game with alot of Sandbox elements. It's far superior to many new MMOrpg. You can even design your own quests and such for other players.. it's cool and fun.

If the lack of jumping turns you off... I seriously don't know what to say lol. Go back to WOW ?

 

Well, if you are so pissed off by my personal choice and want to insult me in a way, yes I guess you can say that. But it truly makes you look a bit silly.

Just making clear I don't want to bunny jump, just want to feel the freedom a true 3D environment gives.

You can tell that you like and want to jump in a game, you cannot tell that Ryzom is not a full 3D environment because it's not true.

Ryzom is full 3D and the lack of jump is intentional. If people start to play a game trying to inderstand what are the rules and the reasons of a game instead of searching things of other games in a game, maybe that people could write more balanced opinions.

One of the major quests of Ryzom is the ability to travel safety around the world, a world that have trap paths and constraints so you need your own personal skill to do that well (and that is a hard job). Jump would spoil this a lot.

You can dislike it, of course, but what about having the jump and still having obstacles to avoid you escaping from a trap? You would enjoy more the game because you could jump in towns?

What you are asking is exactly the bunny jumps, because for the mechanics of the game they would be totally useless, apart of having some people happy to press one more button for nothing.

That's my opinion of course.

Originally posted by paulscott

Well a sandbox also needs content IF you don't make core features like changing the world your core.

Really there's just crafting crafting, combat, faction quests(which are craft X, gather X and kill X), and a small handful of lore quests(of which all of them aren't in game, and some that actually 'hurt' your character peramently).  Most of which just affects your character... kill a mob and it'll spawn back before 5 mins is up, kill a boss it'll be back the next day.  Take control of territory/outpost and it looks the same but gives loot to your guild instead.

 

Sure in WumOnline there's just crafting, and combat... but everything you do directly affects the world in some way or form.  Kill a mob it's corpse will be around for a day or two, it'll attract nearby predators/scavengers during that time.  Control an area you can build your houses, have storage, can make farms, and change the land to your liking.

 

Basically it's a lot more sandbox than Everquest/WoW but only because it's missing some of the linearity and lets people plot their own course.   But not to the extent of games that are paraded as a sandbox, basically below EvE on the 'numberline'.  And it needs more mechanics for me to want to play it.

I just wish had better graphics because the design seemed so solid. Genuis. I might take another look at it cause I could use a change from EVE

Originally posted by PatchDay

 

I just wish had better graphics because the design seemed so solid. Genuis. I might take another look at it cause I could use a change from EVE

Do you mean better quality graphics, or different style of artwork?

To be specific, I was refering to Wurm Online (not saga of ryzom)

The lack of jump, while sometimes annoying mainly because I'm so used to being able to do it, certainly isn't a deal breaker for me. I played Ryzom all through beta and for about a month in release, hoping for the best. It's a game with a lot of really clever bits to it but it ultimately bored me to tears. I had hoped during the time I played that they would tidy it up and make the clever bits more interesting to use. Unfortunately, they didn't. I returned to check after the whole Ryzom Ring thingy, another very clever idea, but it was still as tedious to me as ever. Good luck to them, but I don't think I'll be giving it another go.

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Originally posted by altairzq

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Originally posted by metalhead980

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Originally posted by altairzq

I want a sandobx game but I also want a fully 3D environment.

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Ryzoms world isnt 3D?
or are you just complaining about the lack of jumping?
I have valid complaints when it comes to ryzom, the whole lack of jumping argument is crazy.
" I can't jump so I can't get into this game" Wtf?
I bunch you nuts in the same group of crazy people as the guys that complain about broken immersion do to zoning

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What I find crazy is being glued to the terrain, but to each his own.

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Evidenty youve never played the game! glued hmm...so you run, you mount, you swim..wheres the glue...no need to jump, you glare up at gigantic creature and kill em!