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10/27/08 5:33:49 PM#2
Join the club. Yep, endgame killed AoC. They tried to design a WoW killer but chose a wrong type of killer. They made a japanese kamikaze pilot with bad eyesight, who missed his target and blew himself to pieces. |
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10/27/08 5:49:31 PM#3
I lol'ed IRL. Yes I think it is safe to say that AoC might best serve the industry as a sort of '101' in what not to do when making an mmo. Some people are like slinkies, they dont really have a purpose, but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down the stairs. |
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Distopia
 Drifter
Joined: 11/22/05
If it contains the words video and game, it must be a WOW clone. |
10/27/08 7:03:59 PM#4
After reviewing the review section here, I'm actually amused by this. So according to MMORPG.com matrix online is a better game than AOC as is every Asian grinder out there and NGE SWG lmao, it's actually third from the worst only beaten by Scions of fate and dark and light, hows that for objective journalism! rofl!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson If you can't argue the point don't say anything at all. |
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10/27/08 7:10:28 PM#5
Originally posted by Malickie Hehehe you got that right, I have to admit I read the review out of curiosity, but frankly mmorpg credibility went down the drain a long time ago... I remember reading a reviewer talking about dynamic shadow system in WoW (1st year of release). It's not easy to review a product and yet remain objective, but honestly...
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10/27/08 7:20:15 PM#6
i started AoC from beta back in may and quit at the end of august. there was nothing for me to do with my level 80 ranger other than PvP all the time. that quickly got old and i didnt resub. getting raids together was a major pain in the ass. 24 man raids just didnt sit well with me. the equipment in the game sucked and all looked the same. the crafted armour was terrible as well. i had no idea the purpose of armour in the game at all. the few pieces of raid armour i did manage to get were not so bad though. spending days on end grinding mobs in kylikkis just didnt make it happen for me. good luck AoC and funcom. |
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10/27/08 7:25:19 PM#7
Well I already said it in another post, but I will say it again... Age of Conan has issues and still need at least one year/maybe an expansion to be great, it has good art, unique combat, a great lore, fantastic music, great graphics, but it need more balance, more content/zones, depth, fixes and polish. But as someone said : "This review is just the reflection of the state of the AoC-forums on this website. It's a coward article hiding behind the community."
It is a personal and emotive review, not a profissional and informative review, the player base has the right to feel offended. The lack of respect (for the player base) and perception ( about the "few emotes") showed this is not a serious review. The funny thing is, now even the official content of MMORPG.COM matches the majority of parcial, offensive and misinformed posts of MMORPG.COM forums.
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10/27/08 7:28:54 PM#8
Funcom has to my knowledge, never claimed to be making a WoW killer. AoC was never going to compete with WoW. 2 different type of games. Also, the fact they never expected the 700k subs they had is proof of that. So, stop trying to spread that BS your spewing. |
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Drifter
Joined: 11/22/05
If it contains the words video and game, it must be a WOW clone. |
10/27/08 7:30:02 PM#9
Originally posted by BoudahXL Hehehe you got that right, I have to admit I read the review out of curiosity, but frankly mmorpg credibility went down the drain a long time ago... I remember reading a reviewer talking about dynamic shadow system in WoW (1st year of release). It's not easy to review a product and yet remain objective, but honestly... IF they want to make a mockery of themselves, who are we to stop them? This is freaking hilarious, reviews are supposed to tell you which game at present, is worth your time in a given genre. According to this list those games are lotro and eve. And shot online is a better game than AOC, lmao!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson If you can't argue the point don't say anything at all. |
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10/27/08 8:44:36 PM#10
According to the list of reviews you posted - the only game worse than AOC is Dark and Light. That sounds about right :) |
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10/27/08 8:57:51 PM#11
In games that I have played I would rank it somewhere behind Horizons and Vanguard and ahead of Dark and Light. Never played a lot of the other gaggers out there. I miss DAoC
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10/27/08 9:09:51 PM#12
Originally posted by Malickie
My issue with the AoC review on this site was mostly that it was a meandering mess and poorly written all throughout. Nothing kills what could be potentially engaging and dynamic prose more than by choosing to write as if you were posting on your blog between gaming sessions. I actually agree with its current score on the site based on my experiences and those observed by professional reviewers on other sites and magazines. I however, don't agree with the score as it was laid by the reviewer on this site; who could not formulate a central or set of corroborative themes/examples in his entire review. We have a corespondent on hand (Avery); whom I feel could have put a more compelling review together; while ensuring a level of objectivity on the state of the game. He understands the medium and audience well; and while not being a professional writer to my knowledge does a good job of making his points while making it engaging to read. (as close as I get to saying i respect your work Avery) |
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Drifter
Joined: 11/22/05
If it contains the words video and game, it must be a WOW clone. |
10/27/08 11:02:09 PM#13
Originally posted by SinReaper
My issue with the AoC review on this site was mostly that it was a meandering mess and poorly written all throughout. Nothing kills what could be potentially engaging and dynamic prose more than by choosing to write as if you were posting on your blog between gaming sessions. I actually agree with its current score on the site based on my experiences and those observed by professional reviewers on other sites and magazines. I however, don't agree with the score as it was laid by the reviewer on this site; who could not formulate a central or set of corroborative themes/examples in his entire review. We have a corespondent on hand (Avery); whom I feel could have put a more compelling review together; while ensuring a level of objectivity on the state of the game. He understands the medium and audience well; and while not being a professional writer to my knowledge does a good job of making his points while making it engaging to read. (as close as I get to saying i respect your work Avery) I'm not opposed to the score on it's own, 6-7 is exactly where I would rate it on a scale of 1-10 . MMORPG.com doesn't use a scale like that, they've said so themselves numerous times. Looking at that list, the whole thing looks like a mess if you consider their basis on scoring games. You have to consider those games are all still relevant in the greater scheme of things.Saying shot online is better than AOC is a weird message to be sending. Not to mention the NGE, which is by far the buggiest mess on the market today. I agree the writer was very amatuerish. MMORPG needs to hire some real reviewers who think of the games they write about on a neutral basis. The reviewer even admitted to bashing them (now) based on the state the game was in at launch. Which in my opinion is very unprofessional and shows he approached the game from a bias stand point in his review. That's not helping mmorpg.com out in the credibility department at all. My biggest beef is giving a game a good review at launch time, then months later when the game has actually improved, lowering the score. Kind of backs up those who had the opinion they either gave a good review to please FC, or gave a bad one to please their forum users.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson If you can't argue the point don't say anything at all. |
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10/27/08 11:29:36 PM#14
This is the most innovative MMO to ever hit the market.. and the most graphically pleasing as well..
If you can't handle thinking and adjusting strategy and tactics on the fly .. you shouldn't be playing any game let alone this one... |
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Ghist
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Joined: 10/21/06
Paid MMORPG subscriptions are the ONLY valid rating meters because people have to pay to vote." |
10/28/08 2:20:09 AM#15
Originally posted by Malickie I'm not opposed to the score on it's own, 6-7 is exactly where I would rate it on a scale of 1-10 . MMORPG.com doesn't use a scale like that, they've said so themselves numerous times. Looking at that list, the whole thing looks like a mess if you consider their basis on scoring games. You have to consider those games are all still relevant in the greater scheme of things.Saying shot online is better than AOC is a weird message to be sending. Not to mention the NGE, which is by far the buggiest mess on the market today. I agree the writer was very amatuerish. MMORPG needs to hire some real reviewers who think of the games they write about on a neutral basis. The reviewer even admitted to bashing them (now) based on the state the game was in at launch. Which in my opinion is very unprofessional and shows he approached the game from a bias stand point in his review. That's not helping mmorpg.com out in the credibility department at all. My biggest beef is giving a game a good review at launch time, then months later when the game has actually improved, lowering the score. Kind of backs up those who had the opinion they either gave a good review to please FC, or gave a bad one to please their forum users.
Funny he's not the only one to have a problem with the community. http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/138-Age-of-Conan Waiting for the next thing |
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Drifter
Joined: 11/22/05
If it contains the words video and game, it must be a WOW clone. |
10/28/08 3:06:47 AM#16
Originally posted by Ghist I'm not opposed to the score on it's own, 6-7 is exactly where I would rate it on a scale of 1-10 . MMORPG.com doesn't use a scale like that, they've said so themselves numerous times. Looking at that list, the whole thing looks like a mess if you consider their basis on scoring games. You have to consider those games are all still relevant in the greater scheme of things.Saying shot online is better than AOC is a weird message to be sending. Not to mention the NGE, which is by far the buggiest mess on the market today. I agree the writer was very amatuerish. MMORPG needs to hire some real reviewers who think of the games they write about on a neutral basis. The reviewer even admitted to bashing them (now) based on the state the game was in at launch. Which in my opinion is very unprofessional and shows he approached the game from a bias stand point in his review. That's not helping mmorpg.com out in the credibility department at all. My biggest beef is giving a game a good review at launch time, then months later when the game has actually improved, lowering the score. Kind of backs up those who had the opinion they either gave a good review to please FC, or gave a bad one to please their forum users.
Funny he's not the only one to have a problem with the community. http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/138-Age-of-Conan
Escapist? Honestly, that's your defense? That's meant to be offensive, I did'nt know thats what this site was shooting for. For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson If you can't argue the point don't say anything at all. |
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Ghist
Novice Member
Joined: 10/21/06
Paid MMORPG subscriptions are the ONLY valid rating meters because people have to pay to vote." |
10/28/08 3:28:55 AM#17
Ever hear of the saying "Out of the mouth of babes..."? While it is easy to dismiss one point of view, having collaboration gives that review legitamite weight.
Is it possible that you are afraid you are one of the people that they are talking about? Waiting for the next thing |
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Drifter
Joined: 11/22/05
If it contains the words video and game, it must be a WOW clone. |
10/28/08 3:49:06 AM#18
Originally posted by Ghist
I don't take Yahtzee very seriously, so IMO it doesn't add much weight. No, I really don't care what the reviewer or anyone thinks of me, that doesn't change the fact that he included insults toward players in his review. For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson If you can't argue the point don't say anything at all. |
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10/28/08 5:59:48 AM#19
I probably would have given it a 4.0-5.0 at best, I think the reviewer was being pretty forgiving of a lot of problems if he was giving it a 6.0. I agree about the community being horrible, even way before release the community was one of my biggest concerns because of how they conducted themselves on the boards, way too trashy for my tastes. Waiting for: A skill-based MMO with Freedom and Consequence. |
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10/28/08 8:33:05 AM#20
Originally posted by lugal
You can't make a fantasy MMO (or maybe any MMO) and NOT compete with WoW because it's going to be the same audience. I'll think you'll find that 700k subs went to more like 200k (probably less now) after everyone's free 30 days ended after release :P They expected people to leave wow for aoc. But after playing wow, aoc just feels sub-par on just about every level and there is no end game to keep people playing. |
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