Yes, I know. Another 'I quit' thread...gaahhh. Feel free to skip this one.

After having played through the first free month I see no reason to sub to this game. It's still feels unfinished, got huge balance issues, rvr is a joke, xp is concentrated in the scenarios and the pve is boring.

Unfinished - Animation issues with the npc and mobs. Sometimes the mobs will freeze their animation and float all over the place. Graphics engine make NVidia based pc-builds stutter like hell. You would think they bloody bugtest the thing against one of the main developers of graphics hardware, and system boards. There are player hotfixes for that thing, but I don't want to do that each bloody patch Mythic release.

Balance issues - This one is a nobrainer. Playerbase is spread to thin. Way to many servers to start with. Their dream of even getting a 10th of WoW's playerbase is proven wrong. WoW just gets stronger all the time. That's what I see on my servers atleast. The other balance issue this game got is order vs destruction. Half the order toons looks like feminine boys. I found it just as well to roll female toons so I didn't had to look at some <Mod edit>all the freaking time <Mod edit>. Their look just suck, causing alot of players to choose destruction based on looks alone. Then there are those that can look past that and roll order nonetheless. Then some 60-80% of them roll bright wizards cause of the sick amount of damage they can do. It's like all those that roll a rogue in WoW cause of the stunlock. I would like to see the looks on their faces when Mythic bring the nerf-bat to the bright wizards though Order lacks tanks like hell, while destruction got too many of them. The balance all over the place is just out of whack.

RvR - RvR is non-existent cause of the huge amounts of xp you get from scenarios. You do get the occasional rvr-raid but most of the time the rvr-lakes stand empty. And what's with the ridiculously huge amount of rvr-lakes anyway?

Xp - Most people I think would like to balance scenarios, rvr and pve while leveling their toons. The way scenarios give the shortest ride to endgame, public quests and general pve is empty. Most just idle in warcamps while waiting for the queue in scenarios. This game needs to reward people equally on all fronts. I would like to see scenarios be an alternative to pve and rvr, not the main activity in this game. They don't prepare you for rvr either as none of them mirror the experience you get from taking keeps and holding them.

Pve - For some good pve, look at how WoW did it. WoW is a mixed bag, but it's pve is excellent. Even Anarchy Online, a bleeding old mmo got better and more fun pve than WAR have at the moment. The devs at Mythic forgot to ask themselfes one critical question while they designed the pve, 'Is this fun?'. I realize that fun is something we all got different opinions about, but when almost everyone find WAR's pve boring something is wrong. Read so many threads about the pve, experienced it myself and talked to players ingame. Some like it, but most hate it.

Well, those are my main concerns with the game. I tried to like it, but it didn't stick. Mythic made a damn pvp minigame out of the whole thing. Game feels too unfinished aswell. I know it only got a month or so on itself and that the 1.1 patch is just around the corner, but it's too little, too late for me. I'll check this one out again later when it had some time to mature. At the moment game is just too boring and repetitive for me. I found myself at the end thinking up reasons why I should bother logging in and play the game. It was fun at the start(all games are), but when I reached mid-t3 the game just lost it all for me. Even D&DO and LotRO lasted longer for me and I hate how they introduced mana in D&DO and how empty LotRO felt most of the time. I guess both of those games got maturity now though. Hmm, maybe I'll go back and check them out again. Been away from both of them a long time now.

Edit: Nope, won't go back to WoW. So bloody damn tired of that game now. Burnt out is the word I'm looking for. While I think WoW is a great little mmo, it's not the top of my list. Never where as it's the old mmo called Anarchy Online that holds that position on my top10 list of great mmo's I've played WoW is a good second though. WoW's just a good game to compare with as it's the top dog at the moment. Reason why I used it as comparison. About the bright wizards, maybe I exaggerated a little bit about them, but a damn lot of the players do roll them. Most my deaths in pvp on the black orc is due to a bw dot or nuke.

How far into T3 did you get? I'm wondering because I had a lot of the same complaints as you did. In fact, I cancelled my subscription one week before my free month was out. However, on the last day of my active sub, on a whim I decided to give it another month.

So far I've had a ton of fun, getting into late-T3 and having tons of experience doing RvR. I can also say that the patch that doubled RvR experience gains helped immensely. Scenarios now will almost always give me less experience than a good RvR fight taking the same amount of time to complete.

I'd also like to note that scenarios are definitely not the fastest way to travel through the levels in this game, at least in my experience. PQs are dead in the lower Tiers, but when you catch up to everyone else they are alive and well. You get a ton of quests to complete for easy experience. As another note, scenarios give you LESS experience if you are lower in the tier (I believe if you get the bolster buff you get significantly less experience), so that should actually keep you away from doing scenarios lower in the tier.

A typical beginning to a new tier for me: Quest and do PQs, maxing out influence for every chapter. This gives a ton of good gear, by the way. Then, as I get towards the end of the tier, I begin doing a lot of scenarios for experience and renown. On my last few levels of the Tier I do hardcore RvR, keep battles, etc. It's usually pretty easy to get everyone together for a keep battle, although there are dry periods of time when that is impossible.

Anyways, this post isn't to make you resub immediately.. more to show you that there is light at the end of the tunnel and that the game will continue to improve. I'm sure that when you get bored of LotRO and WoW again you'll head here for another try. From reading your post, it seems like you like WoW a lot anyways, and probably should've just stayed playing an MMO you already like.

(By the way, 60-80% roll Bright Wizards? lol... not true :P)

pretty mush the same reason why i quit.

Can I have your stuff?

Personally i find the game fun. Now that said i have to say the kep takes usually suck. An organized group can take them sure but theres always those loose cannons messing it up. I personally hate the way they re set up. Keep lords with mass AOEs, so you drag the lord out on the balcony. A Order tank then runs out and knocksback half the tanks off the damn keep. They need to make the keep takes like DAOC were a challemge but not a chaotic mess. They re just too frusterating for alot of people, hence why alot don t do them even if they want to.

Don't let the door kick you on the way out.

Sorry but I don't have any of the problems you mentioned. I always get enough people for PQs, don't feel compelled to grind scenarios (why would anyone is a complete mystery to me) and I have no idea what you mean by "balance problems". Oh and yes, I play on an underpopulated server.

We might be playing a different game then, or at least we were playing it as a different game more probably.

Get a guild and try to understand what this game is about. You have to go with the flow of the game and your realm instead of trying to fight it. No, you won't get your open RvR right now and no, that PQ that you got your mind set up on might be well deserted. But hey, go to the other PQ that is populated, get into the group and then after its done say "hey lets do this other PQ or maybe steal a keep?". That's how you do things in this game.

Originally posted by markoraos

Don't let the door kick you on the way out.

Sorry but I don't have any of the problems you mentioned. I always get enough people for PQs, don't feel compelled to grind scenarios (why would anyone is a complete mystery to me) and I have no idea what you mean by "balance problems". Oh and yes, I play on an underpopulated server.

We might be playing a different game then, or at least we were playing it as a different game more probably.

Get a guild and try to understand what this game is about. You have to go with the flow of the game and your realm instead of trying to fight it. No, you won't get your open RvR right now and no, that PQ that you got your mind set up on might be well deserted. But hey, go to the other PQ that is populated, get into the group and then after its done say "hey lets do this other PQ or maybe steal a keep?". That's how you do things in this game.

 

Comments like " dont let the the door hit you on the way out " dont apply here, the OP makes some very good points and a hell of alot of people are feeling the same.... dont reply a to perfectly reasonable post with blind fanboi remarks and replys.

another "good" vs "evil" MMO with horrible design like this one and I close shut my gaming hobby.

Originally posted by summitus

Originally posted by markoraos

Don't let the door kick you on the way out.

Sorry but I don't have any of the problems you mentioned. I always get enough people for PQs, don't feel compelled to grind scenarios (why would anyone is a complete mystery to me) and I have no idea what you mean by "balance problems". Oh and yes, I play on an underpopulated server.

We might be playing a different game then, or at least we were playing it as a different game more probably.

Get a guild and try to understand what this game is about. You have to go with the flow of the game and your realm instead of trying to fight it. No, you won't get your open RvR right now and no, that PQ that you got your mind set up on might be well deserted. But hey, go to the other PQ that is populated, get into the group and then after its done say "hey lets do this other PQ or maybe steal a keep?". That's how you do things in this game.

 

 

Comments like " dont let the the door hit you on the way out " dont apply here, the OP makes some very good points and a hell of alot of people are feeling the same.... dont reply a to perfectly reasonable post with blind fanboi remarks and replys.

Helluva lot of people that actually post in this viper pit of a forum you mean? It is just that I really don't see what those complains are about since I don't experience those problems.The game has some tbh, but I find that they are almost never actually mentioned here. It's all about the same old set of "problems" that I actually do not experience, and especially not to any degree that the "cool crowd" around here insists is "game breaking".

I don't know why. Maybe I'm some kind of a freak that somehow got a special super-secret edition of WAR that is actually enjoyable to play and very easy to group... and so are all my guild members. Dunno. There's something funny here.

I play on a low pop server and I find it very easy to group. I never have any problems with finding people to PQ. I do open RvR daily and I'm enjoying myself immensely. I don't know what is the problem with me. I really would like to be like the majority of posters on this site, pissing on this game mostly because they haven't put any effort in actually understanding how it plays.

Maybe I should just join the crowd yelling "there is no open RvR" and then queue for a scenario instead of actually forming a RvR warband. Or maybe go to the first PQ, kill a mob and then proclaim the game dead because there isn't a full group waiting there for my pleasure. Hmm.. or the "PvE is shallow!" - off to that scenario again, maybe just maybe a starter quest from a hub occasionally. "Open RvR is imbalanced!" and then keep hitting that same old keep that is defended by half of the opposing faction instead of thinking strategically and attacking in some other pairing... I could go on and on in this manner you know... But frankly I'm tired. I'm off to play the game as it's meant to be played.

Originally posted by markoraos

Originally posted by summitus

Originally posted by markoraos

Don't let the door kick you on the way out.

Sorry but I don't have any of the problems you mentioned. I always get enough people for PQs, don't feel compelled to grind scenarios (why would anyone is a complete mystery to me) and I have no idea what you mean by "balance problems". Oh and yes, I play on an underpopulated server.

We might be playing a different game then, or at least we were playing it as a different game more probably.

Get a guild and try to understand what this game is about. You have to go with the flow of the game and your realm instead of trying to fight it. No, you won't get your open RvR right now and no, that PQ that you got your mind set up on might be well deserted. But hey, go to the other PQ that is populated, get into the group and then after its done say "hey lets do this other PQ or maybe steal a keep?". That's how you do things in this game.

 

 

Comments like " dont let the the door hit you on the way out " dont apply here, the OP makes some very good points and a hell of alot of people are feeling the same.... dont reply a to perfectly reasonable post with blind fanboi remarks and replys.

 

It is just that I really don't see what those complains are about since I don't experience those problems.

I don't know why. Maybe I'm some kind of a freak that somehow got a special super-secret edition of WAR that is actually enjoyable to play and very easy to group... and so are all my guild members. Dunno. There's something funny here.

I play on a low pop server and I find it very easy to group. I never have any problems with finding people to PQ. I do open RvR daily and I'm enjoying myself immensely. I don't know what is the problem with me. I really would like to be like the majority of posters on this site, pissing on this game mostly because they haven't put any effort in actually understanding how it plays.

Maybe I should just join the crowd yelling "there is no open RvR" and then queue for a scenario instead of actually forming a RvR warband. Or maybe go to the first PQ, kill a mob and then proclaim the game dead because there isn't a full group waiting there for my pleasure. Hmm.. or the "PvE is shallow!" - off to that scenario again, maybe just maybe a starter quest from a hub occasionally. "Open RvR is imbalanced!" and then keep hitting that same old keep that is defended by half of the opposing faction instead of thinking strategically and attacking in some other pairing... I could go on and on in this manner you know... But frankly I'm tired. I'm off to play the game as it's meant to be played.

 

Or you could just be one of those people that are just happy with the game and don't post on the forum about it

 (just kidding btw )

Originally posted by markoraos

Originally posted by summitus

Originally posted by markoraos

Don't let the door kick you on the way out.

Sorry but I don't have any of the problems you mentioned. I always get enough people for PQs, don't feel compelled to grind scenarios (why would anyone is a complete mystery to me) and I have no idea what you mean by "balance problems". Oh and yes, I play on an underpopulated server.

We might be playing a different game then, or at least we were playing it as a different game more probably.

Get a guild and try to understand what this game is about. You have to go with the flow of the game and your realm instead of trying to fight it. No, you won't get your open RvR right now and no, that PQ that you got your mind set up on might be well deserted. But hey, go to the other PQ that is populated, get into the group and then after its done say "hey lets do this other PQ or maybe steal a keep?". That's how you do things in this game.

 

 

Comments like " dont let the the door hit you on the way out " dont apply here, the OP makes some very good points and a hell of alot of people are feeling the same.... dont reply a to perfectly reasonable post with blind fanboi remarks and replys.

 

Helluva lot of people that actually post in this viper pit of a forum you mean? It is just that I really don't see what those complains are about since I don't experience those problems.

I don't know why. Maybe I'm some kind of a freak that somehow got a special super-secret edition of WAR that is actually enjoyable to play and very easy to group... and so are all my guild members. Dunno. There's something funny here.

I play on a low pop server and I find it very easy to group. I never have any problems with finding people to PQ. I do open RvR daily and I'm enjoying myself immensely. I don't know what is the problem with me. I really would like to be like the majority of posters on this site, pissing on this game mostly because they haven't put any effort in actually understanding how it plays.

Maybe I should just join the crowd yelling "there is no open RvR" and then queue for a scenario instead of actually forming a RvR warband. Or maybe go to the first PQ, kill a mob and then proclaim the game dead because there isn't a full group waiting there for my pleasure. Hmm.. or the "PvE is shallow!" - off to that scenario again, maybe just maybe a starter quest from a hub occasionally. "Open RvR is imbalanced!" and then keep hitting that same old keep that is defended by half of the opposing faction instead of thinking strategically and attacking in some other pairing... I could go on and on in this manner you know... But frankly I'm tired. I'm off to play the game as it's meant to be played.

 

I'm not saying that there are not alot of enjoyable things about War, I'm really glad you like like it !

All I'm saying is that the OP is not a Hater or a Troll etc , he is just someone who has issues with WAR .. thats all I'm saying.

If he was the type of poster thats spews out stuff like " Omg lolz Borehammer suxxoors u n00bs" well fair enough ,but he's just an average poster with real concerns about a game that he obviously wanted to like but could'nt.

Originally posted by Pheace

Originally posted by markoraos

Originally posted by summitus

Originally posted by markoraos

Don't let the door kick you on the way out.

Sorry but I don't have any of the problems you mentioned. I always get enough people for PQs, don't feel compelled to grind scenarios (why would anyone is a complete mystery to me) and I have no idea what you mean by "balance problems". Oh and yes, I play on an underpopulated server.

We might be playing a different game then, or at least we were playing it as a different game more probably.

Get a guild and try to understand what this game is about. You have to go with the flow of the game and your realm instead of trying to fight it. No, you won't get your open RvR right now and no, that PQ that you got your mind set up on might be well deserted. But hey, go to the other PQ that is populated, get into the group and then after its done say "hey lets do this other PQ or maybe steal a keep?". That's how you do things in this game.

 

 

Comments like " dont let the the door hit you on the way out " dont apply here, the OP makes some very good points and a hell of alot of people are feeling the same.... dont reply a to perfectly reasonable post with blind fanboi remarks and replys.

 

It is just that I really don't see what those complains are about since I don't experience those problems.

I don't know why. Maybe I'm some kind of a freak that somehow got a special super-secret edition of WAR that is actually enjoyable to play and very easy to group... and so are all my guild members. Dunno. There's something funny here.

I play on a low pop server and I find it very easy to group. I never have any problems with finding people to PQ. I do open RvR daily and I'm enjoying myself immensely. I don't know what is the problem with me. I really would like to be like the majority of posters on this site, pissing on this game mostly because they haven't put any effort in actually understanding how it plays.

Maybe I should just join the crowd yelling "there is no open RvR" and then queue for a scenario instead of actually forming a RvR warband. Or maybe go to the first PQ, kill a mob and then proclaim the game dead because there isn't a full group waiting there for my pleasure. Hmm.. or the "PvE is shallow!" - off to that scenario again, maybe just maybe a starter quest from a hub occasionally. "Open RvR is imbalanced!" and then keep hitting that same old keep that is defended by half of the opposing faction instead of thinking strategically and attacking in some other pairing... I could go on and on in this manner you know... But frankly I'm tired. I'm off to play the game as it's meant to be played.

 

 

Or you could just be one of those people that are just happy with the game and don't post on the forum about it

 

 

 

 

 

 

 (just kidding btw )

It's just my temperament - the injustice and... lack of perception to be diplomatic is making my blood boil. I'll counter you and give you the real flaws in this game:

- too much running in T2, not enough flight points by far and you get your mount too late, at the end of T2.

- warping in scenarios - i'm a tank and its pretty annoying because i need to be close to my opponents, netcode needs to be fixed there or just get more scenario servers online

- funny stutter whenever there is stuff happening on multiple height levels - like keep floors etc. that's some weird coding here.

- leveling is still too slow starting at T3, they are addressing this but it is a bit grindy

- some char customization issues like trophy cloaks that still cannot be applied to stat bearing ones. weirdness with trophy slots in general (or is it intentional, not sure). Some coloration issues like red coming off as pink etc.

- itemization problems as well. RvR equipment is too weak. Weird stats on armor sets. Non-existat drops off non-PQ bosses. Stuff like that. Annoying definitely but fixable.

- RvR lakes, keeps and objectives seriously lack content that would guarantee players some kind of satisfaction (fun & rewards) independent of other players being there. patch 1.1 will supposedly address this.

- it seems that T4 zone control mechanics are a bit screwy. A lot of ideas are tossed around on forums regarding this and i suppose a future patch will have to do something about it.

- animation glitches and general instability. Nothing serious though. In fact the game is in a state of technical polish most mmorpgs get to achieving only after 6+ months post release.

If I think of anything else I'll let you know.

See? These are the REAL problems this game has and in spite of them I have loads of fun and consider it the best mmo out there now.  Most of the "problems" whiners list on this site I find completely ridiculous - showing an ignorance of the basic mechanics and a lack of any willingness to adjust to the game. As one poster said before me "Most complainers here are trying to play WoW in WAR and are naturally being disappointed." I'm not saying they're doing it on purpose - they are looking for something else but are nevertheless automatically and unconsciously following the same patterns they learned in games they played before instead of actually playing the game as it is.

          Hmm  i see that more people dont like this game. And i wanted to buy it.

           im waiting to see if will be some kinde of change ...maybe who know's...with the new patch will gonna come new stuff....good stuff...and improve the existing one's

            For now im waiting

Originally posted by SweetSense

          Hmm  i see that more people dont like this game. And i wanted to buy it.

           im waiting to see if will be some kinde of change ...maybe who know's...with the new patch will gonna come new stuff....good stuff...and improve the existing one's

            For now im waiting

Ignore this site.

go to www.metacritic.com

http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/pc/warhammeronline?q=warhammer%20online

That's your best bet. Read the reviews and user reviews. The people posting here on mmorpg.com are a loud minority with issues they need to vent out somewhere (me included). Go to metacritic, really - that's the most reliable "critic" site on the web and then make up your mind.

I would love to know what goes through people's minds when they make threads like this? Feeling of accomplishment? In-security issues? Maybe your just bored and really just don't have that great of a life to begin with? No freinds to tell it to to stop you from spouting it here? So what is it this week?

Originally posted by ParkCarsHere

How far into T3 did you get? I'm wondering because I had a lot of the same complaints as you did. In fact, I cancelled my subscription one week before my free month was out. However, on the last day of my active sub, on a whim I decided to give it another month.

So far I've had a ton of fun, getting into late-T3 and having tons of experience doing RvR. I can also say that the patch that doubled RvR experience gains helped immensely. Scenarios now will almost always give me less experience than a good RvR fight taking the same amount of time to complete.

I'd also like to note that scenarios are definitely not the fastest way to travel through the levels in this game, at least in my experience. PQs are dead in the lower Tiers, but when you catch up to everyone else they are alive and well. You get a ton of quests to complete for easy experience. As another note, scenarios give you LESS experience if you are lower in the tier (I believe if you get the bolster buff you get significantly less experience), so that should actually keep you away from doing scenarios lower in the tier.

A typical beginning to a new tier for me: Quest and do PQs, maxing out influence for every chapter. This gives a ton of good gear, by the way. Then, as I get towards the end of the tier, I begin doing a lot of scenarios for experience and renown. On my last few levels of the Tier I do hardcore RvR, keep battles, etc. It's usually pretty easy to get everyone together for a keep battle, although there are dry periods of time when that is impossible.

Anyways, this post isn't to make you resub immediately.. more to show you that there is light at the end of the tunnel and that the game will continue to improve. I'm sure that when you get bored of LotRO and WoW again you'll head here for another try. From reading your post, it seems like you like WoW a lot anyways, and probably should've just stayed playing an MMO you already like.

(By the way, 60-80% roll Bright Wizards? lol... not true :P)

I understand and share what you say, and mostly agree, only on two things:

a) BW are NOT overpowered, ppl just feel like it, but when Destro knows what they do BW see no sun. Peiod. Most Destro just ignore BW too long and aim for the tanks or melee DPS instead. If Mythic nerfs BW they might as well shoot themselves in the knee given the fact Order is mostly underplayed.

b) As gay gamer I great disagree the chars look gay. (I am not sure most straight REALLY have an idea what kind of men gays like, btw) I find they look way too straight, thats why *I* dont like them. Those humans look like Bruce Willis after 3 episodes Die Hard with the beat up, big nosed, scarred faces. Elfes... they dont look gay or feminine, they look like undead, like vampires. *shudder* Seriously, I really thought an AAA title would have a more detailled character customization with more diversity and "soul" in those faces. They are just "dead" and palin ugly as hell. Would be curious what your taste in MMO characters is? Personally I liked SWG the most; Vanguard was ok before they changed it, also Perfect World has a decend one. I am just sick and tired of those "chose from 5 faces and 5 haircuts but they all look the same"-shit. SICK and TIRED.

Never rly played WOW, never will, besides. We read a lot of similar posts these days, I wonder when Mythic panicks, heh. Guess we'll see Paul Barnett head on the spike, just like the VG guy (forgot his name) and Gaute Godager from AoC. Or whoever is responsible at Mythic. Weird, it didnt look that bad right away.

Actually WAR has way more than 10% of the supposed WOW population.  Since WAR is not available to Asians then just comparing apples to apples I would say WAR is doing very well for the first month.  I personally know about 20 RL gamers that all quit WOW sometime in the last few years.  Is WAR the answer? Hell no, but it is fun as hell.  Deep and interesting?  Not at all.

Originally posted by markoraos

Originally posted by summitus

Originally posted by markoraos

Don't let the door kick you on the way out.

Sorry but I don't have any of the problems you mentioned. I always get enough people for PQs, don't feel compelled to grind scenarios (why would anyone is a complete mystery to me) and I have no idea what you mean by "balance problems". Oh and yes, I play on an underpopulated server.

We might be playing a different game then, or at least we were playing it as a different game more probably.

Get a guild and try to understand what this game is about. You have to go with the flow of the game and your realm instead of trying to fight it. No, you won't get your open RvR right now and no, that PQ that you got your mind set up on might be well deserted. But hey, go to the other PQ that is populated, get into the group and then after its done say "hey lets do this other PQ or maybe steal a keep?". That's how you do things in this game.

 

 

Comments like " dont let the the door hit you on the way out " dont apply here, the OP makes some very good points and a hell of alot of people are feeling the same.... dont reply a to perfectly reasonable post with blind fanboi remarks and replys.

 

Helluva lot of people that actually post in this viper pit of a forum you mean? It is just that I really don't see what those complains are about since I don't experience those problems.The game has some tbh, but I find that they are almost never actually mentioned here. It's all about the same old set of "problems" that I actually do not experience, and especially not to any degree that the "cool crowd" around here insists is "game breaking".

I don't know why. Maybe I'm some kind of a freak that somehow got a special super-secret edition of WAR that is actually enjoyable to play and very easy to group... and so are all my guild members. Dunno. There's something funny here.

I play on a low pop server and I find it very easy to group. I never have any problems with finding people to PQ. I do open RvR daily and I'm enjoying myself immensely. I don't know what is the problem with me. I really would like to be like the majority of posters on this site, pissing on this game mostly because they haven't put any effort in actually understanding how it plays.

Maybe I should just join the crowd yelling "there is no open RvR" and then queue for a scenario instead of actually forming a RvR warband. Or maybe go to the first PQ, kill a mob and then proclaim the game dead because there isn't a full group waiting there for my pleasure. Hmm.. or the "PvE is shallow!" - off to that scenario again, maybe just maybe a starter quest from a hub occasionally. "Open RvR is imbalanced!" and then keep hitting that same old keep that is defended by half of the opposing faction instead of thinking strategically and attacking in some other pairing... I could go on and on in this manner you know... But frankly I'm tired. I'm off to play the game as it's meant to be played.

 

First of all your not a FREAK your just a Warhammer Fanboi who decided that this is the best game ever, which evidently it's not due to it's declining numbers.  And yes I know you Play Destro thats why I know you are happy probably a mindless zerg herder slashing everything in it's sight with one button.  See how you like PVP when you guys are playing with yourselves, which  your probably doing already.

Originally posted by slask777

Yes, I know. Another 'I quit' thread...gaahhh. Feel free to skip this one.

After having played through the first free month I see no reason to sub to this game. It's still feels unfinished, got huge balance issues, rvr is a joke, xp is concentrated in the scenarios and the pve is boring.

Unfinished - Animation issues with the npc and mobs. Sometimes the mobs will freeze their animation and float all over the place. Graphics engine make NVidia based pc-builds stutter like hell. You would think they bloody bugtest the thing against one of the main developers of graphics hardware, and system boards. There are player hotfixes for that thing, but I don't want to do that each bloody patch Mythic release.

OK, lets be fair and realistic here. Many an online game, or offline for that matter, launch with their fair share of niggles. I'm not sure if the Nvidia problem is an Nvidia only problem. Please feel free to point me to a Mythic post on this becuase I an not certain.

Balance issues - This one is a nobrainer. Playerbase is spread to thin. Way to many servers to start with. Their dream of even getting a 10th of WoW's playerbase is proven wrong. WoW just gets stronger all the time. That's what I see on my servers atleast.

I'm not sure what WoW's growth pattern really has to do with this topic, perhaps just a shameless swipe at Mythic here.

The other balance issue this game got is order vs destruction. Half the order toons looks like feminine boys. I found it just as well to roll female toons so I didn't had to look at some gayboy all the freaking time (nothing against gays though, just don't like how bloody feminine they get sometimes). Their look just suck, causing alot of players to choose destruction based on looks alone. Then there are those that can look past that and roll order nonetheless.

True, I feel the overall look of Order has caused some balance issues.

Then some 60-80% of them roll bright wizards cause of the sick amount of damage they can do. It's like all those that roll a rogue in WoW cause of the stunlock. I would like to see the looks on their faces when Mythic bring the nerf-bat to the bright wizards though  Order lacks tanks like hell, while destruction got too many of them. The balance all over the place is just out of whack.

Perhaps this is caused by issue above. Lack of tanks means what little mdps order do have get slaughtered in seconds. People get fed up and roll ranged DPS, I know I did.

RvR - RvR is non-existent cause of the huge amounts of xp you get from scenarios. You do get the occasional rvr-raid but most of the time the rvr-lakes stand empty. And what's with the ridiculously huge amount of rvr-lakes anyway?

More server population issues. When RvR does start in an area it can quickly fill up with warbands and is fun. The problem is people are lazy, and the 3 race pairings probably inhibit proper RvR at lower levels.

Xp - Most people I think would like to balance scenarios, rvr and pve while leveling their toons. The way scenarios give the shortest ride to endgame, public quests and general pve is empty. Most just idle in warcamps while waiting for the queue in scenarios. This game needs to reward people equally on all fronts. I would like to see scenarios be an alternative to pve and rvr, not the main activity in this game. They don't prepare you for rvr either as none of them mirror the experience you get from taking keeps and holding them.

Lazy people. PvE means exploring and traveling. Scenario means hiting the join all button and away you go. Each section is well rewarded but people tend to like the most reward for the least effort. Alot of scenario players dont even try to play the game, they just zerg farm. Maybe reworking the way experience is awarded would help.

Pve - For some good pve, look at how WoW did it. WoW is a mixed bag, but it's pve is excellent. Even Anarchy Online, a bleeding old mmo got better and more fun pve than WAR have at the moment. The devs at Mythic forgot to ask themselfes one critical question while they designed the pve, 'Is this fun?'. I realize that fun is something we all got different opinions about, but when almost everyone find WAR's pve boring something is wrong. Read so many threads about the pve, experienced it myself and talked to players ingame. Some like it, but most hate it.

 PvE can offer more exp than scenarios, especially Phoenix gate or Tor Anroc, or any losing scenario. If you get rolled you can wind up with 15min of game time and only a few hundred xp. Some quests award 3-4k xp for seconds of effort. I think alot of people do mix there xp intake. 

For me the PvE is no less fun than most other games PvE. One bonus feature is the lack of rediculous drop item quest rates. you need 10, 10 mobs drop the item 100%.

Well, those are my main concerns with the game. I tried to like it, but it didn't stick. Mythic made a damn pvp minigame out of the whole thing. Game feels too unfinished aswell. I know it only got a month or so on itself and that the 1.1 patch is just around the corner, but it's too little, too late for me. I'll check this one out again later when it had some time to mature. At the moment game is just too boring and repetitive for me. I found myself at the end thinking up reasons why I should bother logging in and play the game. It was fun at the start(all games are), but when I reached mid-t3 the game just lost it all for me. Even D&DO and LotRO lasted longer for me and I hate how they introduced mana in D&DO and how empty LotRO felt most of the time. I guess both of those games got maturity now though. Hmm, maybe I'll go back and check them out again. Been away from both of them a long time now.

 Yup, noone can make you like anything. maybe you got sucked into the scenario grind, because it's easy and quick, and as a result devalued the rest of your experiences, only you know. But as you say, it needs time.

Edit: Nope, won't go back to WoW. So bloody damn tired of that game now. Burnt out is the word I'm looking for. While I think WoW is a great little mmo, it's not the top of my list. Never where as it's the old mmo called Anarchy Online that holds that position on my top10 list of great mmo's I've played WoW is a good second though. WoW's just a good game to compare with as it's the top dog at the moment. Reason why I used it as comparison. About the bright wizards, maybe I exaggerated a little bit about them, but a damn lot of the players do roll them. Most my deaths in pvp on the black orc is due to a bw dot or nuke.

Perhaps you suffer from mmoRPG burnout, period. I hope you find something to enjoy. I also hope Mythic keep fixing and improving and that one day you will enjoy it.

op:

bye :(

Hope you find something that you like mate