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  micona

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12/22/08 2:58:29 PM#21
Originally posted by krenalor

EQ sucks plain and simple and WoW is 100 times superior, only a few idiots think otherwise. The posters of MMORPG have predicted Vanguard, AoC, and WAR would overtake WoW. They are wrong, have no clue what a good game and a bad one are (EQ=BAD, WoW=GOOD) or they make stupid analogies, well here is mine, WoW is like McDonalds and EQ is like the Mexican food place next door closed for serving bad food, ROFLMAO.

 

If you think Wow is good then you know nothing about mmorpg's , for someone that 47 years old you surely act and talk like a little kid just like all the kiddies playing Wow actually i guess you fit in just great .

I played EQ in 1999 and it was the most fun i had in a mmo , but now the game is old and packed with expansions , i dont play anymore i have moved on but not to Wow .

last thing comparing online games with restaurants chains = fail !

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  Bait12

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12/22/08 3:03:45 PM#22
Originally posted by krenalor

EQ sucks plain and simple and WoW is 100 times superior, only a few idiots think otherwise. The posters of MMORPG have predicted Vanguard, AoC, and WAR would overtake WoW. They are wrong, have no clue what a good game and a bad one are (EQ=BAD, WoW=GOOD) or they make stupid analogies, well here is mine, WoW is like McDonalds and EQ is like the Mexican food place next door closed for serving bad food, ROFLMAO.

Don't be ignorant. Actually play those other games before you say they suck.

  Wakygreek

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12/22/08 4:04:50 PM#23

EQ was my first mmo, and in some cases it was alot of peoples first MMO's. Some people had the pleasure of AC or UO or even text base mmo.  The point is depending when you started into gaming your starter game is going to be different.  Your first experiance in anything that you will eventually like will be awesome for that time period.  If you had started playing MMORPGS back when EQ was just launched you would think that is one of the greatest games ever. 

Here is my point, EQ was a very good game, it had alot of the right things in the game.  The graphics were good for the time it was released the skill to play the game varied.  However the sheer size of the world and the fact that it required you to find a druid or wizard or get SOW made the world seem real.  MMO's today like WAR and WOW are still great games...but the fact that they have soo many shortcuts to get things done fast ruins the gaming experiance. Sure its good for casual players to travel from 1 place to another quickly but thats not the point of an MMO, at least not to me.  I want to get online and have to travel some place and be forced to fight or escape evils and what not, not click a button and wait for 15 minutes in flight to get from Dalaran to Coldarra.

MMO's have changed alot since EQ some were really neat, I think DAOC was another good fresh new MMO that offered alot of new interesting ideas and classes. The only thing I can think of that WoW really brought to the gaming community was a lazy approach to gamming. 

Every MMO has had their problems dont get me wrong.  EQ had way too many crappy expansions, 1 expansion a year is a rip off imo, 1 every 2 years is good.

To the OP, EQ is a great group orientated game, the fact that there isnt enough players anymore due to its age and its over the top amount of expansions makes it almost impossible to play.  As much as I hate to say it, id recommend finding a different game that has a larger player base, or a game that doesnt require grouping to level.  Because unless it has changed EQ is still a heavy group geared game.  Im currently looking at Aion myslef, take a look and see if its your type of game.

Which game was the best overall experiance for you?

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  Tyvolus1

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1/11/09 9:56:41 PM#24
Originally posted by qombi
Originally posted by krenalor

Everquest suceeded solely because of a lack of any real competition, WoW kicked its butt so bad EQ was forced to consolodate servers, I was one of the ones to happily leave that festering p.o.s. Everjunk for WoW.

 

No Everquest crumbled because it was on top for so long with no real competition and it just got old. The reason why is different than what you think. While on top they put out horrible expansion packs and milked their customers for every cent they could get.

Poor poor decisions and age killed the game. World of Warcraft just happened to be the next generation game to get most of the attention. It is happening to WoW as we speak, it is getting older and they have made a lot of bad decision being on top so long without any real competition. The game isn't the same game that made it a hit and I will bet there will be a next generation game in the future that will tear at it's subscription numbers.

These MMORPGs make too many drastic changes away from what made them a hit in the first place. Always hurts them.

EQ had no competition and it treated their customers as such.  they only heard hardcore raiders and abandoned the pvp community and players who liked small groups and played casually etc.  SOE decided to cater to a small group of its players and drove off the rest.  What you see now is the result of their stupidity.  EQ could still have 300k or so players but SOE thought they knew what their customers wanted when all they had to do was listen.   Apparently they werent as smart as they thought.  I had alot of fun in original EQ, but they made their bed.

SOE chose to TELL their customers what they wanted and shoved a certain horrible raid playstyle down its players throats.  Original EQ was not about huge time consuming raids, it was more small party grouping etc.  With of course the exception of dragon raids.
 

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  Ethrasime

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1/12/09 10:21:38 PM#25

SOE will be adding a new server in March and you'll be able to vote for the server type.

http://eqplayers.station.sony.com/game_updates.vm


In addition, in conjunction with the upcoming EQ 10th Anniversary celebration, SOE is expecting to add a new EQ server in March 2009 and players will be able to vote on a new server type. To provide your input on the type of server you'd like, you can visit EQplayers.com later in January to vote in a poll.

Maybe that's what SOE needs, a fresh start for weary players.


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  Jtrav1987

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1/12/09 10:30:09 PM#26
Originally posted by krenalor

EQ sucks plain and simple and WoW is 100 times superior, only a few idiots think otherwise. The posters of MMORPG have predicted Vanguard, AoC, and WAR would overtake WoW. They are wrong, have no clue what a good game and a bad one are (EQ=BAD, WoW=GOOD) or they make stupid analogies, well here is mine, WoW is like McDonalds and EQ is like the Mexican food place next door closed for serving bad food, ROFLMAO.

 

This post just screams "Hey im a 16 year old fat kid who loves his McDonalds and playing WoW all night, and by all night I mean 9:30 because thats when mom tells me to go to bed." If you're going to be a troll, use some feeling. Nub.

  qombi

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1/13/09 10:44:56 AM#27
Originally posted by Tyvolus1
Originally posted by qombi
Originally posted by krenalor

Everquest suceeded solely because of a lack of any real competition, WoW kicked its butt so bad EQ was forced to consolodate servers, I was one of the ones to happily leave that festering p.o.s. Everjunk for WoW.

 

No Everquest crumbled because it was on top for so long with no real competition and it just got old. The reason why is different than what you think. While on top they put out horrible expansion packs and milked their customers for every cent they could get.

Poor poor decisions and age killed the game. World of Warcraft just happened to be the next generation game to get most of the attention. It is happening to WoW as we speak, it is getting older and they have made a lot of bad decision being on top so long without any real competition. The game isn't the same game that made it a hit and I will bet there will be a next generation game in the future that will tear at it's subscription numbers.

These MMORPGs make too many drastic changes away from what made them a hit in the first place. Always hurts them.

EQ had no competition and it treated their customers as such.  they only heard hardcore raiders and abandoned the pvp community and players who liked small groups and played casually etc.  SOE decided to cater to a small group of its players and drove off the rest.  What you see now is the result of their stupidity.  EQ could still have 300k or so players but SOE thought they knew what their customers wanted when all they had to do was listen.   Apparently they werent as smart as they thought.  I had alot of fun in original EQ, but they made their bed.

SOE chose to TELL their customers what they wanted and shoved a certain horrible raid playstyle down its players throats.  Original EQ was not about huge time consuming raids, it was more small party grouping etc.  With of course the exception of dragon raids.
 

 

I sure do agree with you. It comes back to what I was saying. These developers veer to far away from what made their games originally a hit in the first place. If they want success they need to keep the game on track. Single player games do not fall to this demise luckily. I can still enjoy the original Diablo game if I care to and I do sometimes!

  tomlukas

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1/15/09 9:12:49 PM#28

hearing that SOE will be adding a new server in March. it's really inspiring. maybe this will interest more players to join this game. oh~~ difficulties and doenturn is only temporary.

  skeaser

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1/15/09 9:16:59 PM#29

Population isn't too good at low levels, but I've recently started playing again. If you have the newest expansion you can hire mercs. I know it's fairly lame, but it's helping a lot for me to get up in level to group with those at the top. On The Combine (Progression) server, I see a decent amount of people in the tutorial area, but not outside...there are people around at low levels fairly frequently, but not enough to count on getting a group.


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  User Deleted
1/15/09 10:42:14 PM#30

eq is not a bad game, i liked it but the reason i dont play it is because of the bad UI...i can live with a low pop lower level but ehh the UI

  ZANGFEI

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I am HighElfiner or something of the sort. :)

1/15/09 10:51:12 PM#31
Originally posted by Kabon

Prayer to the Mmorpg GOD

 

if there is a mmorpg god , please  force ppls to group let grouping be 250% better xps let grouping be the source of cool gear ..leave some solo options but make them way worse then grouping. Make my hitpoints and spellpoints  not regenerate in a milisecond after i killed something .. give my fight some meaning.Let me evolve my character with my own choices . Dont let it be WoW easymode (+ all new mmorpgs) , dont let me do 10000 boring quests kill 5 that kill 7 this for best xps aviablele give us some real quests with interesting rewards .. and leave the shitty quests alone, i rather grind ( i have fun grinding in groups) do not make a open pvp world , i dont like to be killed by a group of brainless pkers when im about 20% health from my last fight ..if you do pvp make it RVR or Arena fights .. let my character be able to still earn xps and invest it somwhere when he hits max lvl ..let me grow very strong , create content for my very strong character so i can get even stronger but dont go crazy when doing that, let me show off in groups about my skills, give us usefull pulling tactics ..to split pulls create roles ..or create a skill based system wich gives the players roles due to theyre skillage + all the 1000000000000000000millions of ideas i got .. + start it 4 weeks before WoW started and tell the warcraft players its based on Warcraft ...but name it Everwow ..so you get 40 million subscribers because your much better then WoW :) ... at the end send me all the Billions you earned from the subscribers

 

Thank you .


 

Everwow..................... hehehe good one.  A+

  Mirathul

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Joined: 1/17/09
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1/17/09 7:55:06 AM#32

What i really miss in other MMO's is the group play, that was fantastic in EQ. i remember alot of groups that lastet for more than 10hours.. with the same members.

i also miss the hole camp thing where a group just sits in one place to make EXP. i hate to run around and do quests all the time, like in WOW. or even worse like in LOTRO where you have to do quests.. if you ever wanna lvl :D

  ZANGFEI

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I am HighElfiner or something of the sort. :)

1/18/09 5:59:27 PM#33
Originally posted by Mirathul

What i really miss in other MMO's is the group play, that was fantastic in EQ. i remember alot of groups that lastet for more than 10hours.. with the same members.

i also miss the hole camp thing where a group just sits in one place to make EXP. i hate to run around and do quests all the time, like in WOW. or even worse like in LOTRO where you have to do quests.. if you ever wanna lvl :D


 

To bad there never will be another community like it, POK was awesome, we could get Buffs for reasonable prices as well as Give them out for free.  Had to Love Temp....... Loved my Ranger S.o.W.

Damn to bad the Old days are gone /sigh.

  RPGPorkster

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1/26/09 7:29:27 AM#34
Originally posted by krenalor

Everquest suceeded solely because of a lack of any real competition, WoW kicked its butt so bad EQ was forced to consolodate servers, I was one of the ones to happily leave that festering p.o.s. Everjunk for WoW.

 

I've played both and EQ1 had the mojo.

Just to prove I'm no SONY lover, EQ2 was a failure in my opinion as it had too much limitations and uniformity between good and bad faction map areas.  It was a nanny game much like WoW.

Sony destroyed EQ1 and the respect of customers.  I will never buy another Sony product agian.

  vardar

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1/27/09 6:39:28 PM#35

EQ sucks plain and simple and WoW is 100 times superior, only a few idiots think otherwise. The posters of MMORPG have predicted Vanguard, AoC, and WAR would overtake WoW. They are wrong, have no clue what a good game and a bad one are (EQ=BAD, WoW=GOOD) or they make stupid analogies, well here is mine, WoW is like McDonalds and EQ is like the Mexican food place next door closed for serving bad food, ROFLMAO.


Words cannot explain this statement from this individual. Its people like this that destroys gaming and the history of gaming. EQ will go down in history as a legend, it doenst need 7million subscribers, but what it has done for future gaming and the standards and level it has pushed for future games. EQ is what gaming should be, with an immense world, and a never ending 'end game', Games now a days are boring and lack creativity, and the 'end game' is extremely reptitive and very very boring. EQ had numerous things to do at the end game it wasnt even funny, heck sometime you dont know where to begin. The end game for EQ was the beginning, it felt like the game was just starting when you reached max level. No game at the present time comes close to that.

In conclusion. now your history before making immature comments like this person did, its sad to destroy a piece of history   like EQ.

  Tutu2

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4/18/09 7:15:23 AM#36

You don't get communities like EQ anymore in MMOs =( If there was just one thing I missed from EQ, it was that. I'm planning to go back and play again, I just miss those days.

  sebbonx

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4/19/09 3:02:23 PM#37
Originally posted by Tyvolus1
Originally posted by krenalor

Everquest suceeded solely because of a lack of any real competition, WoW kicked its butt so bad EQ was forced to consolodate servers, I was one of the ones to happily leave that festering p.o.s. Everjunk for WoW.

 

No Everquest crumbled because it was on top for so long with no real competition and it just got old. The reason why is different than what you think. While on top they put out horrible expansion packs and milked their customers for every cent they could get.

Poor poor decisions and age killed the game. World of Warcraft just happened to be the next generation game to get most of the attention. It is happening to WoW as we speak, it is getting older and they have made a lot of bad decision being on top so long without any real competition. The game isn't the same game that made it a hit and I will bet there will be a next generation game in the future that will tear at it's subscription numbers.

These MMORPGs make too many drastic changes away from what made them a hit in the first place. Always hurts them.

EQ had no competition and it treated their customers as such.  they only heard hardcore raiders and abandoned the pvp community and players who liked small groups and played casually etc.  SOE decided to cater to a small group of its players and drove off the rest.  What you see now is the result of their stupidity.  EQ could still have 300k or so players but SOE thought they knew what their customers wanted when all they had to do was listen.   Apparently they werent as smart as they thought.  I had alot of fun in original EQ, but they made their bed.

SOE chose to TELL their customers what they wanted and shoved a certain horrible raid playstyle down its players throats.  Original EQ was not about huge time consuming raids, it was more small party grouping etc.  With of course the exception of dragon raids.
 

SOE made their bed, and my leveling easy characters, WHY ARE THEIR EASY CHARACTERS TO LEVEL? Piss poor class management on top of SOE incompetance. EQ couldn't succeed with no competition, it is bombing now that there is a fight. Heck every new game is doing better than EQ1, except that turd Vanguard. Vanguard THREATENED to go back EQ1 crappy original gameplay and players responded, NO "F'n" THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

If you have any questions please ask. I have moved on to WoW from eq and no longer have any desire to play a dead game. Thank you. (posted by another selling his account in EQ1)

  Tutu2

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4/23/09 3:12:57 AM#38

i gotta say, eq1 has changed rather alot since the old days. levelling is bloody fast now.  just sucks the population is so low. 

  Archmage_Sle

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4/30/09 12:43:56 PM#39
Originally posted by declaredemer

EQ 3 would not work.  People do not necessarily want to play Everquest, save for us veterans.

 

People, however, do want that immersion feel from EQ.  People do want that sense of travel and exploration from Everquest.  People do want a group-cooperative gameplay experience.  People do want community -not raid- guilds.  People might want Everquest concepts and themes, but an Everquest 3 title would suffer because SOE would be competing with itself (EQ 2, EQ) and it would turn others away.

 

Couldn't agree with you more. EQ was the first MMO I actually played and it really was a game that would suck you right into their world.   I do miss those old days, yet SOE did shoot themselves in the foot quite a few times.  I played a bunch of MMOs since then but would never really find that special kick EQ had before the game went on the border of flatlining.

"If WoW rogues were so hard to play back then, how come so many 12 year olds rolled a rogue?"

Currently playing: WoW (still searching for that perfect MMO)

Have played: EverQuest (have still never found another MMO that gave you that feeling of being in that world), EQ2, Age of Conan, RuneScape, Guild Wars, Tabula Rasa, Warhammer Online, FFXI

  sallan75

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4/30/09 10:37:43 PM#40
Originally posted by sebbonx
Originally posted by Tyvolus1
Originally posted by krenalor

Everquest suceeded solely because of a lack of any real competition, WoW kicked its butt so bad EQ was forced to consolodate servers, I was one of the ones to happily leave that festering p.o.s. Everjunk for WoW.

 

No Everquest crumbled because it was on top for so long with no real competition and it just got old. The reason why is different than what you think. While on top they put out horrible expansion packs and milked their customers for every cent they could get.

Poor poor decisions and age killed the game. World of Warcraft just happened to be the next generation game to get most of the attention. It is happening to WoW as we speak, it is getting older and they have made a lot of bad decision being on top so long without any real competition. The game isn't the same game that made it a hit and I will bet there will be a next generation game in the future that will tear at it's subscription numbers.

These MMORPGs make too many drastic changes away from what made them a hit in the first place. Always hurts them.

EQ had no competition and it treated their customers as such.  they only heard hardcore raiders and abandoned the pvp community and players who liked small groups and played casually etc.  SOE decided to cater to a small group of its players and drove off the rest.  What you see now is the result of their stupidity.  EQ could still have 300k or so players but SOE thought they knew what their customers wanted when all they had to do was listen.   Apparently they werent as smart as they thought.  I had alot of fun in original EQ, but they made their bed.

SOE chose to TELL their customers what they wanted and shoved a certain horrible raid playstyle down its players throats.  Original EQ was not about huge time consuming raids, it was more small party grouping etc.  With of course the exception of dragon raids.
 

SOE made their bed, and my leveling easy characters, WHY ARE THEIR EASY CHARACTERS TO LEVEL? Piss poor class management on top of SOE incompetance. EQ couldn't succeed with no competition, it is bombing now that there is a fight. Heck every new game is doing better than EQ1, except that turd Vanguard. Vanguard THREATENED to go back EQ1 crappy original gameplay and players responded, NO "F'n" THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

 

You got to 47 playing easy classes? I got to 70 in WOW playing a warrior solo the whole time, can you level a warrior in EQ solo to max level? Of course you can't. I played WoW and have played many other games, low population aside, EQ still kicks the shit out of any other game out there. If you like instant gratifaction, WoW is the best game in the world, but then thats the path the world is going down. WoW exists because Everquest was successful.

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