I was thinking about resubbing on a progression server (would be prefer straight up classic but let's not get into that) and am wondering about the lower level populations. If I start a character from scratch will there be people to group up with and is this population distributed among the world or is it all concentrated into which zones have been calculated to yield the best exp? Also have the two servers been merged? and if not which is the more populated?

Agree.

We all play WoW, there are no new players coming to EQ.

Its in a harsh loop =/

People wont play EQ because people aren't playing EQ

I hope that'll break soon

Originally posted by sebbonx

We all play WoW, there are no new players coming to EQ.

Yes, everyone is playing WoW. Except those of us that think WoW is a steaming pile of Poo.

But anyway, the population is quite low and it is insanely low at the low levels. I went back for a short time and started a new guy and was pretty much alone.

Sucks because i havent liked a game since EQ but i really cant go back.

Can SOE please make EQ3 and actually make it what EQ2 should have been. All i want is a EQ updated with new graphics and maybe change the world up a bit.

Originally posted by safwd

Originally posted by sebbonx

We all play WoW, there are no new players coming to EQ.

 

Yes, everyone is playing WoW. Except those of us that think WoW is a steaming pile of Poo.

But anyway, the population is quite low and it is insanely low at the low levels. I went back for a short time and started a new guy and was pretty much alone.

Sucks because i havent liked a game since EQ but i really cant go back.

Can SOE please make EQ3 and actually make it what EQ2 should have been. All i want is a EQ updated with new graphics and maybe change the world up a bit.

They shouldn't listen to you, you are wrong and why make a flop such as EQ3? NO ONE WILL PLAY, THEY WON'T WASTE MONEY ON SUCH A PUNY POTENTIAL NUMBER OF PLAYERS, JUST MILK THEIR CASH COW TILL IT IS DRY!!!! SOE is in business to make money, a classic server will do nothing but flop.

Originally posted by sebbonx

Originally posted by safwd

Originally posted by sebbonx

We all play WoW, there are no new players coming to EQ.

 

Yes, everyone is playing WoW. Except those of us that think WoW is a steaming pile of Poo.

But anyway, the population is quite low and it is insanely low at the low levels. I went back for a short time and started a new guy and was pretty much alone.

Sucks because i havent liked a game since EQ but i really cant go back.

Can SOE please make EQ3 and actually make it what EQ2 should have been. All i want is a EQ updated with new graphics and maybe change the world up a bit.

 

They shouldn't listen to you, you are wrong and why make a flop such as EQ3? NO ONE WILL PLAY, THEY WON'T WASTE MONEY ON SUCH A PUNY POTENTIAL NUMBER OF PLAYERS, JUST MILK THEIR CASH COW TILL IT IS DRY!!!! SOE is in business to make money, a classic server will do nothing but flop.

Maybe to you. Not to alot of mature gamers out there that do not like what MMORPGs have to offer today. I for one know there would be thousands interested in a classic server. It's not the millions WoW has but I bet if they released one the way it was originally it would be one of the most played EQ servers that exist. If you don't want it fine. There are plenty that do. Options are good thing. Everything doesn't have to be super easy, quest based, instant gratification type games.

Originally posted by sebbonx

Originally posted by safwd

Originally posted by sebbonx

We all play WoW, there are no new players coming to EQ.

 

Yes, everyone is playing WoW. Except those of us that think WoW is a steaming pile of Poo.

But anyway, the population is quite low and it is insanely low at the low levels. I went back for a short time and started a new guy and was pretty much alone.

Sucks because i havent liked a game since EQ but i really cant go back.

Can SOE please make EQ3 and actually make it what EQ2 should have been. All i want is a EQ updated with new graphics and maybe change the world up a bit.

 

They shouldn't listen to you, you are wrong and why make a flop such as EQ3? NO ONE WILL PLAY, THEY WON'T WASTE MONEY ON SUCH A PUNY POTENTIAL NUMBER OF PLAYERS, JUST MILK THEIR CASH COW TILL IT IS DRY!!!! SOE is in business to make money, a classic server will do nothing but flop.

Seriously, go change your sandy tampon bro.

WoW has such a shitty community its less appealing than EQ1, i mean i play on Dalaran server and finding a group post-Wotlk is like finding a needle in the haystack, except the needle is imaginary. WoW is a flop, the only reason people play it is because the leveling is too fast and its easy and playable on any PC.

Deal with it.

EQ 3 would not work.  People do not necessarily want to play Everquest, save for us veterans.

People, however, do want that immersion feel from EQ.  People do want that sense of travel and exploration from Everquest.  People do want a group-cooperative gameplay experience.  People do want community -not raid- guilds.  People might want Everquest concepts and themes, but an Everquest 3 title would suffer because SOE would be competing with itself (EQ 2, EQ) and it would turn others away.

EQ sucks plain and simple and WoW is 100 times superior, only a few idiots think otherwise. The posters of MMORPG have predicted Vanguard, AoC, and WAR would overtake WoW. They are wrong, have no clue what a good game and a bad one are (EQ=BAD, WoW=GOOD) or they make stupid analogies, well here is mine, WoW is like McDonalds and EQ is like the Mexican food place next door closed for serving bad food, ROFLMAO.

Originally posted by krenalor

WoW is like McDonalds and EQ is like the Mexican food place next door closed for serving bad food, ]

I will take the Mexican food. 

Everquest suceeded solely because of a lack of any real competition, WoW kicked its butt so bad EQ was forced to consolodate servers, I was one of the ones to happily leave that festering p.o.s. Everjunk for WoW.

Originally posted by krenalor

Everquest suceeded solely because of a lack of any real competition, WoW kicked its butt so bad EQ was forced to consolodate servers, I was one of the ones to happily leave that festering p.o.s. Everjunk for WoW.

No Everquest crumbled because it was on top for so long with no real competition and it just got old. The reason why is different than what you think. While on top they put out horrible expansion packs and milked their customers for every cent they could get.

Poor poor decisions and age killed the game. World of Warcraft just happened to be the next generation game to get most of the attention. It is happening to WoW as we speak, it is getting older and they have made a lot of bad decision being on top so long without any real competition. The game isn't the same game that made it a hit and I will bet there will be a next generation game in the future that will tear at it's subscription numbers.

These MMORPGs make too many drastic changes away from what made them a hit in the first place. Always hurts them.

Just a short comment on a comment earlier here  ...     about EQ1 with graphic update instead of EQ3  :).. 

back in the old days I was playing AC1   ...   and even though AC2 died - ppl in AC1 community are saying the same thing  ...  make a new game from AC1  -  serious Graphics update + existing content = AC3

..  so much for dreams :)

Originally posted by krenalor

Everquest suceeded solely because of a lack of any real competition, WoW kicked its butt so bad EQ was forced to consolodate servers, I was one of the ones to happily leave that festering p.o.s. Everjunk for WoW.

You are free to think the WoW is the greatest game ever created, your Wrong, but feel free anyway.

You probably had a real hard time in EQ without all the handholding that you get playing your precious WoW. WoW only succeeded because there was an EQ, it brought in an already existing player base of Warcraft, its stupid easy and can be played on a toaster. Not that any of those things are bad, but it holds nothing to EQ, which is of course my opinion and not yours. Which makes you wrong.

But anyway.

When i say make EQ3 i dont necessarily mean they should keep the EQ world and just improve the graphics, though that would be fine with me. What i would really like is a new game based off the same ruleset that EQ was based off, new landmass, new races/classes, but the same overall gameplay as EQ.

I love EQ but i cant play it anymore. I played for 5 years and that was enough. Something new with the same feel is what im looking for. I hoped it would be Vanguard but that didnt really happen.

Everquest hard?!@ Are you kidding, you must be!? I AFK LEVELED A NECROMANCER AND COULD DO IT EVEN EASIER WITH A MAGE! I leveled a Dr00d from level 15 to 47 with ZERO deaths! The game was cake and no one wants a "classic" server, we did every expansion to death and there is no re-experiencing the wonder of new zones with a classic server, so you get 30k players which isn't worth the time or money to do. Besides you were NOT in an Uber guild at the time, I was, and all we did was fight over the once a WEEK spawns, what a dumb idea. A Classic server loses money,

BTW, are you one of those that predicted Vanguard would "pown" WoW, I laughed at them and I laugh at your "Classic" server stupidity, SOE would do it if they thought it would make money believe me.

Originally posted by sebbonx

Everquest hard?!@ Are you kidding, you must be!? I AFK LEVELED A NECROMANCER AND COULD DO IT EVEN EASIER WITH A MAGE! I leveled a Dr00d from level 15 to 47 with ZERO deaths! The game was cake and no one wants a "classic" server, we did every expansion to death and there is no re-experiencing the wonder of new zones with a classic server, so you get 30k players which isn't worth the time or money to do. Besides you were NOT in an Uber guild at the time, I was, and all we did was fight over the once a WEEK spawns, what a dumb idea. A Classic server loses money,

BTW, are you one of those that predicted Vanguard would "pown" WoW, I laughed at them and I laugh at your "Classic" server stupidity, SOE would do it if they thought it would make money believe me.

This whole post reaks of talking out of your ass. So you had easy leveling with the three easiest classes to level in EQ, good job. And how do you know what guild any of us were in? Any guild that went around calling themselves Uber were usually just a bunch of asshats.

You are probably right about classic servers though, i dont think SOE is going to make another. You are wrong on people wanting one but to prove it you would have to actally go back into the EQ forum and read almost any post to see that people want it. Cant expect you to do that.

I guess you are right, no one wants a game like EQ. Why would we want that when we can have a game where when we first log in we run over to the guys with a "!" or "?" over his head, he tells me what exactly to do, i rinse and repeat until the "!/?" disappears. "OH NOOS, WHAT DO I DO NOW!!!" Oh no worries, the guy standing right next to him has a "!/?" now. I now do what he tells me to do until i have advanced to a level where i must move on. But no worries, said guy now has a "!/?" over his head and he tells me to go to this other town where his friend might have work for me to do. All i have to do now is move on and do this incredible progression in game play all over again. And just think, in only a month i will be level 50 and then i hear that the real game starts. But wait, i have just spent the last month/50 levels all alone and now they want me to do something called "Grouping", it sounds complicated.

Yep, MMOs have sure evolved since the days of EQ. Or maybe it is that the players have just gotten lazy and unimaginative.

Prayer to the Mmorpg GOD

if there is a mmorpg god , please  force ppls to group let grouping be 250% better xps let grouping be the source of cool gear ..leave some solo options but make them way worse then grouping. Make my hitpoints and spellpoints  not regenerate in a milisecond after i killed something .. give my fight some meaning.Let me evolve my character with my own choices . Dont let it be WoW easymode (+ all new mmorpgs) , dont let me do 10000 boring quests kill 5 that kill 7 this for best xps aviablele give us some real quests with interesting rewards .. and leave the shitty quests alone, i rather grind ( i have fun grinding in groups) do not make a open pvp world , i dont like to be killed by a group of brainless pkers when im about 20% health from my last fight ..if you do pvp make it RVR or Arena fights .. let my character be able to still earn xps and invest it somwhere when he hits max lvl ..let me grow very strong , create content for my very strong character so i can get even stronger but dont go crazy when doing that, let me show off in groups about my skills, give us usefull pulling tactics ..to split pulls create roles ..or create a skill based system wich gives the players roles due to theyre skillage + all the 1000000000000000000millions of ideas i got .. + start it 4 weeks before WoW started and tell the warcraft players its based on Warcraft ...but name it Everwow ..so you get 40 million subscribers because your much better then WoW :) ... at the end send me all the Billions you earned from the subscribers

Thank you .

Originally posted by jamesd129

Also have the two servers been merged? and if not which is the more populated?

the 2 progression servers were merged -- Combine is the progression server

Originally posted by krenalor

EQ sucks plain and simple and WoW is 100 times superior, only a few idiots think otherwise. The posters of MMORPG have predicted Vanguard, AoC, and WAR would overtake WoW. They are wrong, have no clue what a good game and a bad one are (EQ=BAD, WoW=GOOD) or they make stupid analogies, well here is mine, WoW is like McDonalds and EQ is like the Mexican food place next door closed for serving bad food, ROFLMAO.

You mean both give a bad taste in your mouth?

Anyways you forget one thing: If Everquest didn't exist than Wow wouldn't either. Blizzard took all the things they liked from EQ and made Wow based on that. Or if Wow would have existed it would look and feel like UO. EQ and Meridian 59 pioneered the MMOs.

Today EQ is kinda dated to me, but I think the same about Wow but EQ was an amazing game when it released, a lot bigger step forward in many ways than Wow. It was far from perfect but so is any other MMO right now.

Comparing 2 computer games with 5 years between is already unfair, and EQ is a pioneer which makes it even worse. Do you really think that Wow will have so many more players and feel fresher when it is 10 years old? It is as comparing Beckham and Pelé today.

EQ made a so big impact on the MMO market that most game use many of it's feature 10 years after it is made... Nothing that I like personally however becuase MMO evolution have gone slowly the last 10 years but that doesn't mean that EQ wasn't a great game. Wows big point is that it gotten so many players in the genre, not anything new thinking in it self.

I would actually consider playing EQ if SOE actually revamped the game so it felt and looked modern.