Hopefully the title of the thread got you here, and now you are mad as hell and ready to flame away.  Well, I want to start off by saying that I have become an MMO cynic.  Having played through multiple MMO's since leaving SWG I find that nothing satisfies me anymore.  I get bored easily with games, get turned off by little problems, and overall can't seem to find a title that truely makes me WANT to play the game.  Now when I hear of new MMO titles coming out I start tearing them apart before I even play them.  It's like I'm trying to find a reason to not like the game before I even get going. 

But here is the thing for me, and I imagine a good many other folks.  We have become the generation of MMO players who over analyze, over think, and over criticize every aspect of the game.  We are passionate gamers, we are a group who looks at a game and says, "I bet this game would be more fun if the developers did x, y, or z."  This is a good thing, because it promotes creativity and imagination in a generation that is severely lacking in both.  However, it is our downfall because we are never satisfied with just enjoying the games. 

To anyone who feels like I do I want to encourage you with the same thing I am trying to encourage myself with.  It's Star Wars, and that alone may just be good enough for me.  I want the game to be so many things, but it is the one thing I really want already, a chance to romp again in the SW universe.  Admittedly I hate the current state of SWG, but if I were honest I would still play that unholy POS game if there were enough people to enjoy it with......simply because it's Star Wars. lol

If you want to bolster creativity, try actually creating something instead of coming up with game features that you have no power, or chance, of implementing.

Say, writing a story, painting a masterpiece, or creating your own computer game.

As for your claim that you're part of a new "generation" of highly cynical gamers... that's laughable. "Cynical" isn't a word I'd use to describe any generation of gamers, not even grognard tabletop roleplayers.

My advice to you is to remove the chip and play a game for what it is, instead of looking at how it's not pre-CU SWG or whatever. If you can't do that, don't play MMORPGs. Find a different hobby.

LMAO this is funny stuff.

lol funny post

Originally posted by Riceman

If you want to bolster creativity, try actually creating something instead of coming up with game features that you have no power, or chance, of implementing.

Say, writing a story, painting a masterpiece, or creating your own computer game.

As for your claim that you're part of a new "generation" of highly cynical gamers... that's laughable. "Cynical" isn't a word I'd use to describe any generation of gamers, not even grognard tabletop roleplayers.

My advice to you is to remove the chip and play a game for what it is, instead of looking at how it's not pre-CU SWG or whatever. If you can't do that, don't play MMORPGs. Find a different hobby.

His hobbie is gaming, why are you telling him to find a new one? he and many others like him feel the same about mmo's these days..they are all the same, not one differs much from the other. Personally i cant understand how anyone finds these theme park mmo's fun. There was a time when an mmo would last you a year or two, now it seems they can only capture people for 6 weeks at the most.

Your pre-cu SWG is dead, gone, and over with. It is history now and doesnt make any difference in the world. Personally I am tired of hearing people whine about it. Just get over it and move on. Forget it even existed, and you will be better off I think. Also, try to keep an open mind towards other MMORPGs out there. Otherwise, you may set yourself up to never be able to enjoy another one ever again. That is just my opinion about the matter.

It's easy to become a cynic with all the bad MMORPG releases lately.

What encourages me is that Bioware is behind this game, and that it runs on the Hero engine, saves a heck of a lot of time.,The developers just drops stuff into the engine where they want it, they can build a huge world in no time.

I didn't really get your purpose for making the thread?

You do know a bit of how the game will be if you played other Bioware games and if you didn't like KOTOR then I don't relly think you will like this game either.

And if all MMOS have hard to capture your interest, then maybe you should get another hobby, Pen and paper RPGs maybe?

Originally posted by Loke666

I didn't really get your purpose for making the thread?

You do know a bit of how the game will be if you played other Bioware games and if you didn't like KOTOR then I don't relly think you will like this game either.

And if all MMOS have hard to capture your interest, then maybe you should get another hobby, Pen and paper RPGs maybe?

Of course the latest mmo's have failed to capture his imagination because they are all crap mindless clones of each other.The only reason you put up with these games is because they are online..you wouldnt play any of these games offline now would you.

I like how everyone is comparing this to SWG... And saying how they need to do this and they dont need to do this... Well lol to all of them becasue everyone whos stuck in the SWG world of mind I think is going to be very dissapointed, let down or both... KOTOR is what this mmo is based off not SWG.. Two diferent playing styles... Just read the reviews from what the developers have said. They dont even acknowledge really that SWG even exisisted... Which I think is a good thing.. I never played SWG. I didn't like anything about it. But the KOTOR games I played them and loved them... Am I going to play Old Republic... Nope... Why... becasue to many SWG people are probley gong to ruin it. Not all of them but enough of them...  They have been so tainted that anything with the name of  a star wars mmo there going to find somthing worng with it.

Dont expect anything. As soon as someone starts comparing it to something else your done.. you should just leave it alone and move on. That person has already found somthing to dislike and it will make the game non-enjoyable. I find myself doing it to wow all the time lol. I'll find somethig that  irritates the hell out of me and ill quit playing for awhile.. Than ill go back and play it till it rubs me the wrong way lol. But I dont say that the devs messed the game up... Or that they didn't listen. They did what they wanted.. So I either take it for ewhat it is get over and move on.. If I come back than they musted have done somthing right if not. Than I move on...

Guess I got a little off subject. Pretty much stop compairing this to SWG... The only thing it has in common is that its star wars... Done move on.

Originally posted by ronan32

Originally posted by Loke666

I didn't really get your purpose for making the thread?

You do know a bit of how the game will be if you played other Bioware games and if you didn't like KOTOR then I don't relly think you will like this game either.

And if all MMOS have hard to capture your interest, then maybe you should get another hobby, Pen and paper RPGs maybe?

 

Of course the latest mmo's have failed to capture his imagination because they are all crap mindless clones of each other.The only reason you put up with these games is because they are online..you wouldnt play any of these games offline now would you.

I beg to differ. I played SWG since its inception in 2003 up until a few months ago. I enjoyed pre-CU, post-CU, and post-NGE, though they were very different experiences.

I have played a vast number of MMORPGs. I've tried everything from EverQuest I & II to Saga of Ryzom.

Currently, I play World of Warcraft. It's a great game. Why do I say that? Because I enjoy playing it. Since the purpose of a game is to entertain its players, it can be defined as a great game.

"Crap mindless clones" is a generalization that only someone who is single-minded in their definition of a massively multiplayer online roleplaying game can state.

Broaden your horizons, son. And if you prefer to stick in the past instead of enjoying the present, well, that is your choice.

Originally posted by ronan32

Of course the latest mmo's have failed to capture his imagination because they are all crap mindless clones of each other.The only reason you put up with these games is because they are online..you wouldnt play any of these games offline now would you.

"You kids and that damn rock music!  Back in my day we had real music!"

You self righteous EMMORPGers are hilarious.

Title aside this game is going to be far from the same old sh*t. For starters the game will be in a timeline that they can change and manipulate. That is a key problem in SWG, they had to stick with stuff that relates to Episode 5. Come on thats lame we seen the movies we dont need to live them during that time. Now everyone wants to say its Jedi that ruined SWG well yes they did seeing as this is a key word TIME when jedi were kinda in hiding and extinct almost. But with SWTOR (sweator hehe) you get the timeline of freedom of creativity a story where jedi are alive a story were alot of sith are around. Also people say no one should be a jedi. All a jedi is in terms of another type of game is a Warrior Mage thats all. They can be killed they arnt gods so people shouldnt be crying that you can be a jedi if you want. Yeah you will more then likely have a good 70% jedi but soon the novelty will wear off and they will role other classes so no need to worry.  SWTOR will be the ultimate SW game and next to KOTOR 3 (if there is one) nothing will compare in the star wars universe created by bioware in SWTOR.

Originally posted by whistlinjoe2

Originally posted by ronan32

Of course the latest mmo's have failed to capture his imagination because they are all crap mindless clones of each other.The only reason you put up with these games is because they are online..you wouldnt play any of these games offline now would you.

 

"You kids and that damn rock music!  Back in my day we had real music!"

You self righteous EMMORPGers are hilarious.

Don't get me started on music.

Originally posted by Riceman

Originally posted by ronan32

Originally posted by Loke666

I didn't really get your purpose for making the thread?

You do know a bit of how the game will be if you played other Bioware games and if you didn't like KOTOR then I don't relly think you will like this game either.

And if all MMOS have hard to capture your interest, then maybe you should get another hobby, Pen and paper RPGs maybe?

 

Of course the latest mmo's have failed to capture his imagination because they are all crap mindless clones of each other.The only reason you put up with these games is because they are online..you wouldnt play any of these games offline now would you.

 

I beg to differ. I played SWG since its inception in 2003 up until a few months ago. I enjoyed pre-CU, post-CU, and post-NGE, though they were very different experiences.

I have played a vast number of MMORPGs. I've tried everything from EverQuest I & II to Saga of Ryzom.

Currently, I play World of Warcraft. It's a great game. Why do I say that? Because I enjoy playing it. Since the purpose of a game is to entertain its players, it can be defined as a great game.

"Crap mindless clones" is a generalization that only someone who is single-minded in their definition of a massively multiplayer online roleplaying game can state.

Broaden your horizons, son. And if you prefer to stick in the past instead of enjoying the present, well, that is your choice.

your choice of game says everything i need to know about your gaming preference... its pointless arguing about it. I don't see how playing wow would be broadening my horizons, more like narrowing them to the mainstream.

I understand you ..in some way... Prob. I would play "that POS" if there was larger player base... Same reason..

LoL, you created silly thread (name), and your post is like a blog...

Now my opinion - they wont scr*w up this... Hey - its BioWare ppl!

Bioware - brain

LA - money

EA - resources (ppl)

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Great Game!

Originally posted by Airwren

 

But here is the thing for me, and I imagine a good many other folks.  We have become the generation of MMO players who over analyze, over think, and over criticize every aspect of the game.  We are passionate gamers, we are a group who looks at a game and says, "I bet this game would be more fun if the developers did x, y, or z."  This is a good thing, because it promotes creativity and imagination in a generation that is severely lacking in both.  However, it is our downfall because we are never satisfied with just enjoying the games. 

 

No, what you and many others ( me included sometimes) have become is forum players.

We don't play games anymore we talk/write about playing games:).

Originally posted by ronan32

Originally posted by whistlinjoe2

Originally posted by ronan32

Of course the latest mmo's have failed to capture his imagination because they are all crap mindless clones of each other.The only reason you put up with these games is because they are online..you wouldnt play any of these games offline now would you.

 

"You kids and that damn rock music!  Back in my day we had real music!"

You self righteous EMMORPGers are hilarious.

 

Don't get me started on music.

Touché   

Originally posted by DarLorkar

Originally posted by Airwren

 

But here is the thing for me, and I imagine a good many other folks.  We have become the generation of MMO players who over analyze, over think, and over criticize every aspect of the game.  We are passionate gamers, we are a group who looks at a game and says, "I bet this game would be more fun if the developers did x, y, or z."  This is a good thing, because it promotes creativity and imagination in a generation that is severely lacking in both.  However, it is our downfall because we are never satisfied with just enjoying the games. 

 

 

No, what you and many others ( me included sometimes) have become is forum players.

 

We don't play games anymore we talk/write about playing games:).

 

 

 

Says something about the games that are available that so many are talking/writing about them rather than actually playing them.

Originally posted by Kalles

I understand you ..in some way... Prob. I would play "that POS" if there was larger player base... Same reason..

LoL, you created silly thread (name), and your post is like a blog...

Now my opinion - they wont scr*w up this... Hey - its BioWare ppl!

Bioware - brain

LA - money

EA - resources (ppl)

________________

Great Game!

That couldn't have been put any better.

Bioware - One of the most technically skilled writers and storytellers of our time

Lucas Arts - Started the IP and for once would prolly like to see it succeed tossing large sums of money to see it happen.

EA - Second Largest game producer on the planet next to Activision Blizzard. Have more resources than god.

The game will be fine, let them work, let it be done. Play it then come back here and start the whinery.