Originally posted by PezzBomb

Originally posted by TheHoweller

Sorry, didn't realize the post I was commenting on was from a week or so ago -.-

About AoC, when would you all reccomend a new player looking to subscribe, doing so? 

Also, I'm looking for a non-generic MMO, is AoC even considered such?  If not, I'm not interested in the formulaic "kill this fifteen times, bring me the locket" type of trash, and I would like to pass.

 

So just to help you out with some real comments as oppose to all the professortalk above. Let me tell you the truth about this circus. I bought the game 3 weeks ago and have not seen one of these nonsens issues some people have mentioned. I have not been able to write down one bug, or other issues since I started. I love this game as much as I loved Lost Planet for Xbox360 and it is truly fantastic, just that this game also is MMO on top of all. 

Let me point out one thing. The other reviewer above have not played this game in about 3 months which basically means they don't know how postpatch 2.0 AoC is. The third of the guys above have not played the game even (that's my understanding from some of the stuff I have seen in some of his other posts).

You can't pass the game off as flawless and remain objective, there are bugs still present. They may not be as severe as falling through terrain or game stopping crashes like there were at launch.They remain present though. There are still gaps to be filled in as well, such as 55+ content there's been some progress over the last few months, yet they haven't reached the end of that road. Even after Ymir's pass releases there will still be gaps.

You're entitled to your personal opinion that the game is great, I feel it's decent. There's no reason to paint such an untrue picture of the game however. That's going to lead to disappointment for others in the end.

Originally posted by Malickie

Originally posted by PezzBomb

Originally posted by TheHoweller

Sorry, didn't realize the post I was commenting on was from a week or so ago -.-

About AoC, when would you all reccomend a new player looking to subscribe, doing so? 

Also, I'm looking for a non-generic MMO, is AoC even considered such?  If not, I'm not interested in the formulaic "kill this fifteen times, bring me the locket" type of trash, and I would like to pass.

 

So just to help you out with some real comments as oppose to all the professortalk above. Let me tell you the truth about this circus. I bought the game 3 weeks ago and have not seen one of these nonsens issues some people have mentioned. I have not been able to write down one bug, or other issues since I started. I love this game as much as I loved Lost Planet for Xbox360 and it is truly fantastic, just that this game also is MMO on top of all. 

Let me point out one thing. The other reviewer above have not played this game in about 3 months which basically means they don't know how postpatch 2.0 AoC is. The third of the guys above have not played the game even (that's my understanding from some of the stuff I have seen in some of his other posts).

 

You can't pass the game off as flawless and remain objective, there a bugs still present. They may not be as severe as falling through terrain or game stopping crashes like there were at launch.They remain present though. There are still gaps to be filled in as well, such as 55+ content there's been some progress over the last few months, yet they haven't reached the end of that road. Even after Ymir's pass releases there will still be gaps.

You're entitled to your personal opinion that the game is great, I feel it's decent. There's no reason to paint such an untrue picture of the game however. That's going to lead to disappointment for others in the end.

 

I am not disputing that there might be bugs. If you know programming or have played 10 years of MMO you might have an eye for many things that I am not paying attention too. I am just saying, I'm just a regular gamer. I play the game, kill the bad guys, chop the head, sneak up and stab, etc etc... and I can not see any of this bug nonsens that get way way too high focus. Perhaps I am a ignorant or something, but at least you have to realize that whatever the issues with this game are supposed to be, they are not that bad at all when people like me honestly honestly can't see what you are talking about. Seriously!

I am only lvl 41 and so on blablabla, but still I am half way there and it looks darn good so fare. I respect your opinion and all, but take a step back and look on the issues you are discussing. Is it really something nonexpert MMOers are going to notice??

Originally posted by PezzBomb

 So just to help you out with some real comments as oppose to all the professortalk above. Let me tell you the truth about this circus. I bought the game 3 weeks ago and have not seen one of these nonsens issues that some of the outdated people have mentioned. I have not been able to write down one bug, or other issues since I started. I love this game as much as I loved Lost Planet for Xbox360. It is truly fantastic, and it is also a MMO on top of all. If look for a new MMO, try AOC. I think you will thank me with a big hug once you get it fired up.

Let me point out one thing. The other reviewer above have not played this game in about 3 months which basically means they don't know how postpatch 2.0 AoC is. The third of the guys above have not played the game even (that's my understanding from some of the stuff I have seen in some of his other posts).

Lol, here we go again.. Pezz the 3-week veteran of AoC knows better then all of us :) I've played AoC total of 6 months but I know nothing because I haven't played for a few weeks and the legendary patch 2.0 totally changed the game.

When I read your posts I'm thinking you must be trolling or then you are just our of your mind. I'm pretty sure you are a troll and I'm dumb enough to go along with it.

Originally posted by PezzBomb

Originally posted by Malickie

Originally posted by PezzBomb

Originally posted by TheHoweller

Sorry, didn't realize the post I was commenting on was from a week or so ago -.-

About AoC, when would you all reccomend a new player looking to subscribe, doing so? 

Also, I'm looking for a non-generic MMO, is AoC even considered such?  If not, I'm not interested in the formulaic "kill this fifteen times, bring me the locket" type of trash, and I would like to pass.

 

So just to help you out with some real comments as oppose to all the professortalk above. Let me tell you the truth about this circus. I bought the game 3 weeks ago and have not seen one of these nonsens issues some people have mentioned. I have not been able to write down one bug, or other issues since I started. I love this game as much as I loved Lost Planet for Xbox360 and it is truly fantastic, just that this game also is MMO on top of all. 

Let me point out one thing. The other reviewer above have not played this game in about 3 months which basically means they don't know how postpatch 2.0 AoC is. The third of the guys above have not played the game even (that's my understanding from some of the stuff I have seen in some of his other posts).

 

You can't pass the game off as flawless and remain objective, there a bugs still present. They may not be as severe as falling through terrain or game stopping crashes like there were at launch.They remain present though. There are still gaps to be filled in as well, such as 55+ content there's been some progress over the last few months, yet they haven't reached the end of that road. Even after Ymir's pass releases there will still be gaps.

You're entitled to your personal opinion that the game is great, I feel it's decent. There's no reason to paint such an untrue picture of the game however. That's going to lead to disappointment for others in the end.

 

 

I am not disputing that there might be bugs. If you know programming or have played 10 years of MMO you might have an eye for many things that I am not paying attention too. I am just saying, I'm just a regular gamer. I play the game, kill the bad guys, chop the head, sneak up and stab, etc etc... and I can not see any of this bug nonsens that get way way too high focus. Perhaps I am a ignorant or something, but at least you have to realize that whatever the issues with this game are supposed to be, they are not that bad at all when people like me honestly honestly can't see what you are talking about. Seriously!

I am only lvl 41 and so on blablabla, but still I am half way there and it looks darn good so fare. I respect your opinion and all, but take a step back and look on the issues you are discussing. Is it really something nonexpert MMOers are going to notice??

You know this is actually a fairly decent point, one I never really thought about. I've been playing MMO's for almost 10 years, my opinion is that older games were better. But that's because they were new to me and the excitement factor played a huge part in that opinion. Especially in regard to SWG, the amount of options that game offered seemed like gaming on crack to me. I' haven't had that feeling in years, I know exactly what you're talking about.

Point that out more often you might not get hassled as much, everyone who play's mmo's knows that feeling I'm sure. Your first love is your first love, no one can take that away from you.

Originally posted by PezzBomb

I am only lvl 41 and so on blablabla, but still I am half way there and it looks darn good so fare. I respect your opinion and all, but take a step back and look on the issues you are discussing. Is it really something nonexpert MMOers are going to notice??

Well, 90% of players QUIT the game just after a couple of months. I would say yes  they DID notice the issues. Or are you saying all these 90% were expert MMOers?

You will quit too once you get to the endgame. Try to enjoy the ride while it lasts.

Originally posted by Ryti

Originally posted by PezzBomb

I am only lvl 41 and so on blablabla, but still I am half way there and it looks darn good so fare. I respect your opinion and all, but take a step back and look on the issues you are discussing. Is it really something nonexpert MMOers are going to notice??

 

Well, 90% of players QUIT the game just after a couple of months. I would say yes  they DID notice the issues. Or are you saying all these 90% were expert MMOers?

You will quit too once you get to the endgame. Try to enjoy the ride while it lasts.

You should also ask yourself this, is it really necessary to attempt to ruin his experience for him?

It's a fairly decent bet, a majority were at least veterans of some MMO. Otherwise the criticism would have been much different, compared to most modern single player RPGs, AOC is a beast of a game IMO. Compared to most MMO's, it's to much like a single player game, that's a common argument given anyway.

To a person new to MMO's AOC's "endgame" might seem quite innovative, ownership of cities, sieging, even raiding as limited as it is, not to mention PVP notoriety. To a person unfamiliar with MMO gameplay this would seem fairly new and exciting in my opinion. It could be argued they may get a better experience else where, however that's for them to decide themselves IMO.

Originally posted by Ryti

Originally posted by PezzBomb

I am only lvl 41 and so on blablabla, but still I am half way there and it looks darn good so fare. I respect your opinion and all, but take a step back and look on the issues you are discussing. Is it really something nonexpert MMOers are going to notice??

 

Well, 90% of players QUIT the game just after a couple of months. I would say yes  they DID notice the issues. Or are you saying all these 90% were expert MMOers?

You will quit too once you get to the endgame. Try to enjoy the ride while it lasts.

If you say something over and over again it doesn't become more true. What I belive you try to say is that of the 800000 that bought the game over the first 3 months only 400 000 resubscribed. Obviously something was bugging the 50% that left. You are insinuating that they left because the game was not good, while that's not what most people think. Most people think that people quit due to memory leaks, OOM (whatever that is) and other performance issues. I can't see why you think none of these will try the game again now that these issues has been resolved. Now it's time for some food then another 4 hours play before bed.

Must get to lvl 45 at least by weekend. I plan to make a review from a relative new players perspective. By the way do any of you know how I get images loaded up here?

Originally posted by PezzBomb

 If you say something over and over again it doesn't become more true. What I belive you try to say is that of the 800000 that bought the game over the first 3 months only 400 000 resubscribed. Obviously something was bugging the 50% that left. You are insinuating that they left because the game was not good, while that's not what most people think. Most people think that people quit due to memory leaks, OOM (whatever that is) and other performance issues. I can't see why you think none of these will try the game again now that these issues has been resolved. Now it's time for some food then another 4 hours play before bed.

Must get to lvl 45 at least by weekend. I plan to make a review from a relative new players perspective. By the way do any of you know how I get images loaded up here?

It's not 50%, it's much more. At least not on EU servers. I played on Aquilonia which is the most populated EU server. At one time my guild had 400+ members, many of them active players. At one point people slowly started to stop playing. For every 1 new member I got, I lost 10. Every day I removed many inactive members from our roster.

And it was not just my guild, I could see the difference everywhere I went. Less people, less instances. People just stopped playing, plain and simple. Xfire numbers tell the same story.

We as a community cannot wait for your review. I'm sure it will open many eyes and get a lot of people back into the game.

I'm not sure about the image thing.. maybe if you clicked the "Insert/Edit Image"..?

Originally posted by yugohugo

 that  so many folks here do nothing but bash the game?  I mean I get it, we all get it....you hate AoC.  You were lied too, mislead, kicked in the head etc.....get over it, or at least move on already.

  Why are you wasting your time bashing on a game you dislike so much?  I would think that you would be playing something you do like, but daily threads of hate continue.  Someone starts a why I love AoC and some whiner has to start a why I hate AoC thread.  Why? Are you that bored?  Can't you just let us enjoy our forum and our game.  As I said before we get it, you hate AoC.  We do not.

I like AoC and therefore I check the forums daily for info.  This is the first time I have posted because I rather spend my time playing.  I find the game very fun and on my server (Tyrn) there are a good amount of folks playing, I know because they keep ganking me.  This game is so far from being dead that I find comments about that to be silly beyond belief.  Shows a real lack of business sense from those making them.

Keep making your comments about the game, that is what these forums are for I guess.  Just  know you are really starting to sound damn silly these days.  Those who post positive things about the game do so because they have a active interest in the game.  That makes sense, those having no interest in the game spending so much time bashing it does not.   

 

Rant over.....I am off to play some AoC.

Check my post history and you'll see I've never had a single nice thing to say about this game since I don't like it or the company that made it due in large part to what I personally see as an attempt to dupe people out of their money, with that having been said you'd be hard pressed to find me speaking negatively on any positive post about aoc without the post directing readers to comment you do have to realize though no one has any more right to a forum than anyone else which is why I avoid commenting on a topic about things currently in game or that don't solicit my opinion. I have noticed that some in the failcom army have posted tongue in cheek responses but nothing more than that.
 

I can only say if you don't like the topic don't go in to the post it works wonders since AOC stabilized I have not went into the forum which happened shortly after Gaute left. In fact since Craig took over this is my second time in aocs forum.

P.S. While I type this response I'm playing LOTRO travelling in the background which I do often so don't assume anyone who posts negatively doesn't play anything else especially where pcs are concerned.

Thanks for all of the advice, guys.  I'll be sure to decide on whether or not to play AoC in the coming months.

Originally posted by Jackdog

I like to make observations and enjoy sharing them.

I have watched a number of MMOs fall flat on thier butts now for various reasons, bad design, poor performance, devs with no focus or plan other than sell a lot of boxes. Dark and Light, Mourning, Horizons, Vanguard and now AoC are all good examples. All of them had 1 thing in common and that was posters who hyped the game sky high, then when it released with only half the features and/or terrible performance  wondered why everyone bashed the game and was pissed off. You would think developers would learn by now, but a lot of them keep doing the same thing and expecting different results. I would have figured Funcom woyuld have learned from the mistakes they made with AO, but noooooooooo

if u werent such a fanboi (u know what game im talking about) id agree with you