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  foliot

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10/21/08 7:52:04 PM#21

You do realize that there is no shadows at all, right?  I like the graphics so far, and the brightness will be reduced by the addition of actual shadows.

  ElRenmazuo

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10/21/08 8:01:33 PM#22

I think when they complete the game the graphics they are aiming for will be similar to prince of persia next gen which I think is great. 

http://www.dasgamer.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/pop_s_010.jpg

 

  Alindale

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10/21/08 8:11:20 PM#23
Originally posted by zymurgeist

I'll give you a reaction on the graphics when I've seen them. So far they've only shown concept art. 


 

I'll second that statement.

  Gorair

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10/21/08 8:21:17 PM#24

havent seen any IG graphics yet as they havent been drawn yet im sure , ive seen some of the test skins laid out to make testing the engine possible without putting a graphic load on it. And they seem actually above par for pre alpha concept phase tbh.

 

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  Zayne3145

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OP  10/22/08 2:58:29 AM#25

Anyone know if the graphics engine is new tech? I don't get why they can't use a modified Mass Effect engine (or the engine they used for KOTORII if they want it to be compatible with older systems).

They may already be doing this, in which case this post is null.


EDIT: Scrap that, I've since found out they're using HeroEngine.

  stayontarget

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10/22/08 3:22:10 AM#26
Originally posted by Alindale
Originally posted by zymurgeist

I'll give you a reaction on the graphics when I've seen them. So far they've only shown concept art. 


 

I'll second that statement.

Third........concept art is so-so, I'll wait for ingame stuff before I comment on the graphics.

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  Darwa

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10/22/08 3:28:48 AM#27

Oh, how I love the people that picked the third option. This shows no knowledge of game development. lol

It's become apparent to me that game developers are of the opinion that sci-fi mmo gamers want these plastic-cartoon graphics. Look at the Star Trek and Stargate titles in development.

I personally think they look bloody awful, and despite this being in 'alpha' they won't suddenly change everything. It doesn't work like that.

Look on the bright side though: More people will be able to 'max out' the graphics on an average pc this way. /cry

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Oh, and to those playing the 'concept art' card, go look at the official site and you'll find that screenshots and concept art are clearly in different categories

  Woopin

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10/22/08 5:45:18 AM#28

The Screens are here.

http://www.swtor.com/media/screens

 

Also I know a ton of games that Alpha screens never made it to Open Beta / Final Production so I would not worry about graphics as of yet. Also it is not always about stunning graphics but about gameplay.

  Zayne3145

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OP  10/22/08 5:53:45 AM#29
Originally posted by Woopin

The Screens are here.

http://www.swtor.com/media/screens

 

Also I know a ton of games that Alpha screens never made it to Open Beta / Final Production so I would not worry about graphics as of yet. Also it is not always about stunning graphics but about gameplay.

 

Hmm yes, I'm not sure why people think only concept art has been released. The screenshots are on the official website for all to see.

  Darwa

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10/22/08 5:54:09 AM#30
Originally posted by Woopin

 

Also I know a ton of games that Alpha screens never made it to Open Beta / Final Production so I would not worry about graphics as of yet.


 

How many of those games actually took on a different graphical look? Name them please; I'm really curious.

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  ThomasN7

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10/22/08 5:58:06 AM#31

I thought they looked pretty good but the game is only in alpha (lots of changes from now until release) so I wouldn't go worrying. Bioware will give us a nice world to play in.

  alakram

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10/22/08 5:59:48 AM#32

Yay they are kid oriented graphics. Maybe once you start playing you get used to them, but, my first impresion was, bleh!

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  SelfDestructPro

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10/22/08 6:27:45 AM#33

Alpha phase or not, the models should at least be remotely close to final product specs.  Only the textures should be dumbed down at this point.  If that's true, I'm already quite disappointed.  I mean I'm not asking for much here, but where's the next gen?

Anyone else get the feeling this is just going to be KOTOR 3 with online co-op?  I'm not getting any sense of Massively Multiplayer here regardless of what they say.  I don't want some crappy NPCs as a group with me.  That's a Guild Wars thing and a crappy Japanese MMO thing.  I was really expecting more here.

  Obraik

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10/22/08 6:38:35 AM#34

I voted for the "It's only alpha" option, but compared to the concept art released for SWG when it was at the same point, the SWG concept art looks "better"...

  Zayne3145

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OP  10/22/08 6:40:47 AM#35
Originally posted by seniorfrito

Anyone else get the feeling this is just going to be KOTOR 3 with online co-op?

Yeah I'm getting that feeling, too.

  salvaje

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10/22/08 6:45:00 AM#36

In general, graphics are nice, BUT a little too cartoony for me.  And what's up with the lightsaber hilts being the size of pringles cans?

 

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  Woopin

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10/22/08 6:46:30 AM#37
Originally posted by darwa
Originally posted by Woopin

 

Also I know a ton of games that Alpha screens never made it to Open Beta / Final Production so I would not worry about graphics as of yet.


 

How many of those games actually took on a different graphical look? Name them please; I'm really curious.

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Games that changed development companies don't count

 

 

Trying to not go off topic here but a few I can think of Tabula Rasa changed the whole way it looked. I wish I could find the old thread on this as they had screens from Alpha early stages to Open Beta stages. I will post it if I find them for you. Other games include Planetside but they went the opposite way round and there Beta screens was worse than there Early Alpha screens.

 

I am not saying they will change how it looks but it is way too early to say this is what the finished product will look like. I am sure if I had time to look into this more I could list a whole bunch of examples again these are just off the top of my head.

 

You have to remember that early alpha stages they change and swap textures about like crazy. I doubt the models will be touched but at least there is hope that they will skip the cartoon graphics and go for a more realistic approach.

  demolishIX

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10/22/08 6:54:49 AM#38
Originally posted by Obraik

I voted for the "It's only alpha" option, but compared to the concept art released for SWG when it was at the same point, the SWG concept art looks "better"...


 

 I never would have thought that I would ever agree with you Obraik,but indeed SWG concept art and graphics look better then KOTOR,they look like playing a disney game,wouldnt surprise me if rainbows sprouted out of every sith you kill.

 Yes,the Star wars universe isnt very grim and is very vibrant,but super bright colors =/= vibrant,it's just causes pain in my eyes.If they tune down the colors abit il be happy.

  Zayne3145

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OP  10/22/08 6:56:15 AM#39
Originally posted by demolishIX

wouldnt surprise me if rainbows sprouted out of every sith you kill.

 

Rofl.

  einexile

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10/22/08 7:13:41 AM#40

I wrinkled my nose for a minute then realized this stuff looks like Ralph McQuarrie's old concept art. What a nice idea - I just hope they stick with it. Age of Conan once had a similarly painted look and they jettisoned it.

You people complaining that the art style is childish are only exposing how wet behind the ears you yourselves are by comparing it to something as new as WoW and ignoring the whole history and purpose of Star Wars.

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