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  Endlos

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10/19/08 12:52:54 PM#1

Scoreboard

 

Here's a fun sample hit against my Chosen:

 

Tank nuke?

 

Oh, and Earthshatter is AoE.

  Stellus

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10/19/08 12:57:38 PM#2

He hit you so hard, you died twice! Yeah. Ironbreakers are too much at the moment.

  lorteged

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10/19/08 12:59:43 PM#3

Well, everything needs adjustment.. but dont think its that big a problem atm.

  Stellus

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10/19/08 1:01:15 PM#4

I'd also like to point out how the next 4 down are Bright Wizards. Ha! That pretty much sums up game balance right there.

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10/19/08 1:06:17 PM#5

You guys want some crackers with your whine? Play one when you are envious, then when you realize they have their faults as well come back and whine some more...

  Endlos

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10/19/08 1:13:56 PM#6

Really hard to kill.

Do good damage with some flat-out busted spikes for a tank class.

Have some of the best CC in the game depending on spec (all of them get a knockback that has the same arc as the ranged classes morale abilities and if they spec for it they get an AOE knockback+snare on a 10 second cooldown on top of that).

Looking for the faults, not seeing any.  I guess if they don't bring a healer on their team they may, eventually, get killed?

  cukimunga

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10/19/08 1:14:11 PM#7

What class are you? You don't seem to have any damage reduction at all.

  medafor

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10/19/08 1:17:21 PM#8

Tor Anroc is horrible, i dont even cue up for it anymore. yes i am destruction, and all the order do is knock you back in the lava. they really need to do something about it.

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10/19/08 1:51:46 PM#9
Originally posted by medafor

Tor Anroc is horrible, i dont even cue up for it anymore. yes i am destruction, and all the order do is knock you back in the lava. they really need to do something about it.


 

yep they should get rid of this map until blackguards are put into the game.

  Stellus

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10/19/08 5:16:10 PM#10
Originally posted by cukimunga

What class are you? You don't seem to have any damage reduction at all.


 

I've played with him before - he is a well-specced Chosen. Which makes it even more unbelievable.

  cukimunga

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10/19/08 5:20:13 PM#11
Originally posted by Stellus
Originally posted by cukimunga

What class are you? You don't seem to have any damage reduction at all.


 

I've played with him before - he is a well-specced Chosen. Which makes it even more unbelievable.

 

Wow man thats crazy, that is just way to powerful to do dmg to a tank.

 

I hate that place to and its just not order knocking people back I always get knocked back by destruction in the lava it sucks.

  Grunties

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10/19/08 5:22:21 PM#12
Originally posted by medafor

Tor Anroc is horrible, i dont even cue up for it anymore. yes i am destruction, and all the order do is knock you back in the lava. they really need to do something about it.


 

heh, when i was in Tor Anroc all destro ever did was knock us in the lava, or take the flag into that space underneith the ramp in the destro starting area. I think both parties are just as guilty of the former.

And maybe they can fix destro having a faster route to the flag problem while they are at it too, lol.

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10/19/08 5:27:10 PM#13

I'm a level 20 Warrior Priest and I have about 3000 health and about 50% damage reduction not to mention some Toughness on top of that. So because I get my arse stomped constantly by Witch Elves, that makes them OPed?

Anyways, I'm sure this critical hit was pretty uncommon, so it's not like it happens all the time. Black Orcs get the same knock back ability as the Iron Breaker, so thats nothing to point out.

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10/19/08 5:35:32 PM#14

The IB and BO have increased damage to balance the Greenskin/dwarf zone.

Once the hammerer and choppa are released they will see a decrease in damage.

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  xSaintx

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10/19/08 5:36:08 PM#15

First off, you look like you have almost no dmg reduction. Secondly, he landed a critical hit on you which doesn't happen often and he might have large amounts of weapon skill. I've hit people for close to that amount as a White Lion but only with a critical hit.

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  originalegg

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10/19/08 5:38:21 PM#16
Originally posted by medafor

Tor Anroc is horrible, i dont even cue up for it anymore. yes i am destruction, and all the order do is knock you back in the lava. they really need to do something about it.


 

LOL this is too good.  You know the exact thing is said on the order side?  Probably even more so because tanks are more popular on the destro side...

I love how people are so ignorant to only remember the bad times and not the good ones.  I always hear people say "omg order are so bad they cant heal, tank, dps etc..."  but of course they forget the time that they rolled the other team and thought "wow they were really bad"

Trust me, destro try to only kb people just as much as order.  Ive personally fought a tank 1v1 where he didnt even try to come dps me, he only tried to keep repositioning himself for a kb while i kept my back to a wall, eventually he tried to kb and got me 1/2 way there.  I am sure the same has happened on the other side of the factions.

Stuff like this always cracks me up. 

  Xtort

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10/19/08 5:47:37 PM#17
Originally posted by xSaintx

First off, you look like you have almost no dmg reduction. Secondly, he landed a critical hit on you which doesn't happen often and he might have large amounts of weapon skill. I've hit people for close to that amount as a White Lion but only with a critical hit.


 

Ever heard of skills that reduce the armor by a lot? Yeah.. IBs are that bad at the moment,

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  JT

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10/19/08 5:49:30 PM#18

I play order and could easily show you the exact same thing coming from the side of destro.  Hell, I get hit for over 2k at times with destro aoe abilities.  Stop pretending that order is the only one who can knock people off into the lava, I spend half my time there.

 

 

 

  Endlos

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10/19/08 6:04:16 PM#19
Originally posted by Rhoklaw

A) I'm a level 20 Warrior Priest and I have about 3000 health and about 50% damage reduction not to mention some Toughness on top of that. So because I get my arse stomped constantly by Witch Elves, that makes them OPed?

B) Anyways, I'm sure this critical hit was pretty uncommon, so it's not like it happens all the time.

C) Black Orcs get the same knock back ability as the Iron Breaker, so thats nothing to point out.


 

A) A witch elf is a melee dps class with paper armor and low HP totals that gets ripped apart in mere moments, even by splash AOE, if they aren't backed by a healer.  An Ironbreaker is more or less tied with the other three tanks in terms of "virtually impossible to kill if they have healers unless 4 BWs (or Sorcs in the case of Destro) focus fire on them" and putting out that kind of damage.  See where your comaparison is flawed?

B) Unless I am mistaken, I believe the basic math for a normal critical hit is 150% damage.  It's a lot, but not earth-shattering.  Pun intended.  This means the non-crit version of that attack from a tank would have been around 850 damage.  From a tank.  In a 30-foot AOE.  From a tank.  Saying "well it was a Crit so that makes it okay" really doesn't hold water when you are, in effect, defending the validity of a tank class dropping an 850 damage AOE (every 20 seconds, with no mechanic or morale cost I might add).

C) No, they don't.

As for why I didn't mitigate more than two damage from that grossly overpowered attack, I honestly don't know.  Maybe I was armor stripped beforehand, as armor strips and reductions are common for both sides.  That's the only thing I can figure offhand for why the full damage went through.

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10/19/08 6:15:36 PM#20

I can see the blackguard having a Simlilar AOE kb.

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