Originally posted by royalewit

This is incredibly sickening.  Seeing what this game has become.  I can't wait to play on Pre-CU servers again because of how fun it was, and advertisments like this make me roll my eyes in disgust.  How could the most in-depth and immersive MMO world ever made turn into...

Get over your self, all Mmo's do this sort of thing in some form or other .... quit looking for more things to hate.
 

Originally posted by summitus

Originally posted by royalewit

This is incredibly sickening.  Seeing what this game has become.  I can't wait to play on Pre-CU servers again because of how fun it was, and advertisments like this make me roll my eyes in disgust.  How could the most in-depth and immersive MMO world ever made turn into...

Get over your self, all Mmo's do this sort of thing in some form or other .... quit looking for more things to hate.
 

does show you the age of the people they are now aiming the game at though and the fact that they really just aren't bothering with the canon anymore

Ironic because the NGE was supposed to be a return to canon....

/sigh

So very Starwarsy and iconic.

Originally posted by summitus

Originally posted by slask777

Lol...stop hating. The game is still being played, and obviously enjoyed by people. The nge is way past you. Let it rest and instead focus on your mmo of choice now. The nge-hater crowd sounds like a broken mp3 on repeat already.

 

Yeah I agree, if you dont like it dont read about it ... and give us all a rest from the constant whinging and hate

I didn't know that I didn't like the Galatic Moon Festival until I read about it, and well my logic is based on real principles.. not emotions and failed empathy.   People who hate on the nge-haters have far less noble motivation than the people displaced by the mismanaged SWG disaster and are still pissed about it.

Originally posted by ebonfire 

I didn't know that I didn't like the Galatic Moon Festival until I read about it, and well my logic is based on real principles.. not emotions and failed empathy.   People who hate on the nge-haters have far less noble motivation than the people displaced by the mismanaged SWG disaster and are still pissed about it.

You're all dead inside, anyway. You'll come to find that no matter how many times we beg you to stop whining, you'll do it anyway, simply because you believe other people still care. There is such a thing as moving on, you know? It's been almost three years since you were "misplaced" and you should have gone through your stages of grief long ago. I personally hope that this game dies just so this forum does.

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Originally posted by precuorbust
I'm personally anticipating "Shutdown Day".
Which we are going to know a lot more about come Tuesday.
 

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That holiday might get me to resubscribe. I might be fun.

Originally posted by teddyboy420

Originally posted by royalewit

They threw canon out the window when they made pre-teens their target audience.  I still can't believe how bad it's gotten, though.  Remember when they had to get approval from LucasArts before they could add things into the game?

 

Oh GTFO already.

 

"Remember when they had to get approval from LucasArts before they could add things into the game?"

How do you know they don't? In fact, I wouldn't be surprised at all if they still do and LA thought this up themeselves. The poster who mentioned the Star Wars Holiday Special had it right....

You jokers are so caught up in your hatred for SoE for changing your MMO of choice (which I can completely understand, and sympathize with) that you jump on anything they do. Really, you should be just as mad at LucasArts b/c they are the ones who initiated the NGE change, and it still is thier license and if you think they just gave up and allow SoE to do whatever they want w/ the Star Wars universe you are....well, you're just not thinking rationally.

This Halloween event is most definitely not outside of something LucasArts would do, and don't be surprised if something like this turned up in the new Star Wars MMO too. As has already been said, LucasArts were the ones who whored out the Star Wars license for a holiday show on CBS, so a Haloween event in SWG isn't all that unbelievable, even before the NGE.

You are full of it....

SOE has ruined every game they touch including eq and eq2

Originally posted by Impacatus

Originally posted by ebonfire

Ok so what is a Galatic Moon?  Is it like a small companion galaxy?

 

Sorry, just had to ask myself that.

 

That's what I was wondering.  At least Wookie Life Day was already established in the continuity, and was tied to a specific culture in the Star Wars Universe.

How does "Galactic Moon Festival" even make sense?  Why would the entire galaxy be celebrating a specific planetary phenomenon?  That would be like us celebrating "Global Mountain Day".  What moon are they celebrating?  Don't the people on planets without moons feel left out?  What do twi'lek vampires and human skeletons wearing stormtrooper helmets have to do with planetary satellites anyway?

If they're going to make a Halloween analogue, they could at least TRY to make it fit in.  Make it the anniversary of some great tragedy in the SW continuity, or a cultural festival of one of the "evil" races.  "Galactic Moon Festival" is just lazy.

The ONLY reason they are doing the galatic moon festival is because wow is doing hollow's end.

SOE simply copies everything wow does, only soe does it 1/2 assed and in a way that doesnt make sense.

Originally posted by Koolaider

Originally posted by ebonfire 

I didn't know that I didn't like the Galatic Moon Festival until I read about it, and well my logic is based on real principles.. not emotions and failed empathy.   People who hate on the nge-haters have far less noble motivation than the people displaced by the mismanaged SWG disaster and are still pissed about it.

You're all dead inside, anyway. You'll come to find that no matter how many times we beg you to stop whining, you'll do it anyway, simply because you believe other people still care. There is such a thing as moving on, you know? It's been almost three years since you were "misplaced" and you should have gone through your stages of grief long ago. I personally hope that this game dies just so this forum does.

Dead inside?  Haha, no...  Every time I come to this site and see a NGE thread, I'll reply.  If I was dead inside, well I don't think I would feel any sense of entitlement to do so, but as it stand.. I will spit at SOE every chance I get in the future, and rightfully so.  

Does it make people feel less empowered to hear the NGE bashing?  Seems like the side of the truth that they don't want to hear is considered a whine to reempower themselves.  Hell I've moved on, and I don't even game because I lack the time, but I do miss gaming.  I'm just patiently waiting for the right game to come along.

Honest truth is I've lost a lot of respect for the gaming community because most gamers have a narrow unrealistic method of approaching criticism.  The true people who are dead inside are those who lack the tolerance and understand to relate to others, and they use words like "whine" to cover up the truth because they are in love with broken ideals. 

Originally posted by jat5560

Originally posted by teddyboy420

Originally posted by royalewit

They threw canon out the window when they made pre-teens their target audience.  I still can't believe how bad it's gotten, though.  Remember when they had to get approval from LucasArts before they could add things into the game?

 

Oh GTFO already.

 

"Remember when they had to get approval from LucasArts before they could add things into the game?"

How do you know they don't? In fact, I wouldn't be surprised at all if they still do and LA thought this up themeselves. The poster who mentioned the Star Wars Holiday Special had it right....

You jokers are so caught up in your hatred for SoE for changing your MMO of choice (which I can completely understand, and sympathize with) that you jump on anything they do. Really, you should be just as mad at LucasArts b/c they are the ones who initiated the NGE change, and it still is thier license and if you think they just gave up and allow SoE to do whatever they want w/ the Star Wars universe you are....well, you're just not thinking rationally.

This Halloween event is most definitely not outside of something LucasArts would do, and don't be surprised if something like this turned up in the new Star Wars MMO too. As has already been said, LucasArts were the ones who whored out the Star Wars license for a holiday show on CBS, so a Haloween event in SWG isn't all that unbelievable, even before the NGE.

 

You are full of it....

SOE has ruined every game they touch including eq and eq2

Am I now? Am I really?

Here are some quotes from Nancy Macintyre, former Vice President of Global Sales and Marketing, to the NY Times, for those that don't know Nancy, she was the Senior Director of Online Games (before promotion to VP) at LucasArts, or, in laymans terms, the head of the team in charge of SWG...

"We really just needed to make the game a lot more accessible to a much broader player base. There was lots of reading, much too much, in the game. There was a lot of wandering around learning about different abilities. We really needed to give people the experience of being Han Solo or Luke Skywalker rather than being Uncle Owen, the moisture farmer. We wanted more instant gratification: kill, get treasure, repeat. We needed to give people more of an opportunity to be a part of what they have seen in the movies rather than something they had created themselves."

"We knew we were taking a significant risk with our existing player base, but we felt so strongly that we needed to make these changes for the sake of the game's long-term future that we all held hands, LucasArts and Sony, and went forward"

The "we" she keeps referencing in the above quotes are refering to the SWG-team at LucasArts and are a HUGE change from the direction that Raph Koster and the team at SoE had originally envisioned, and implemented for the game. Do you really think they (the team @ SoE) wanted the game they had created, the game they had crafted through thousands, and thousands of man-hours, to be changed so drastically? I highly doubt it. The much more likely scenario,  when you think about the NGE catastrophe from an objective, and logical point-of-view that is, and taking the above quotes from Nancy Macintyre into account, is that LucasArts weren't happy w/ the game that SoE made, the number of subcribers, etc., and they initiated the NGE.

Did SoE take part? Of course they did, they were the programmers of the game, so in the end blame should be placed on them too, but IMO, the majority of the blame should lie w/ LucasArts. They were clearly the one who initiated, and pushed for the NGE, and they were the ones who made silly comments like the ones quoted above. SoE, SoE head John Smedley himself has apologized for the NGE...has LucasArts? No.

And here is a link to the Star Wars Holiday Special, a 2-hour long holiday (Christmas) show that aired on CBS. The plot of the show centered around the Wookie holiday, Life Day. Hmm, Life Day? That sounds awfully  familar, I think that made it's way into SWG too, didn't it?

Originally posted by ebonfire

Ok so what is a Galatic Moon?  Is it like a small companion galaxy?

 

Sorry, just had to ask myself that.

Galactic Moon, is that when Smed bends over?

On a more serious note, the disenfranchised players do have a right to being upset as the NGE was supposed to remake SWG into a more "Star Warzy" game with true iconic professions.  This change ruined the game for the majority of the player base, at that time, so they do still have the right to be upset as this goes completely against the con that was pulled on them.

What this holiday event doesn't do is give previous players the right to bash the game itself, only the rationality behind the NGE as the event goes directly against that and makes the previous wounds bleed again.  The only people that have the right to be upset with the game itself over this holiday is the current player base, which I am not one of.

Originally posted by the_lizard

blame WOW.

blame people that pay and play WOW.

WOW is the only reason this has happened.

All mmo's target kids now and none of them are old enough to have credit cards. It should be illegal, it's like targetting kids with cigarette advertising.

Why when did Blizzard start making decisions for SOE and I'll do you one better if this had anything to do with Blizzard it would have been both well done and successful. Will you guys get a clue here WOW hasn't stolen any babies and contrary to popular belief there are no weapons of mass destruction hidden in wow it's just a game guys get over it and place blam where it's due.

Originally posted by ebonfire

Originally posted by Koolaider

Originally posted by ebonfire 

I didn't know that I didn't like the Galatic Moon Festival until I read about it, and well my logic is based on real principles.. not emotions and failed empathy.   People who hate on the nge-haters have far less noble motivation than the people displaced by the mismanaged SWG disaster and are still pissed about it.

You're all dead inside, anyway. You'll come to find that no matter how many times we beg you to stop whining, you'll do it anyway, simply because you believe other people still care. There is such a thing as moving on, you know? It's been almost three years since you were "misplaced" and you should have gone through your stages of grief long ago. I personally hope that this game dies just so this forum does.

 

Dead inside?  Haha, no...  Every time I come to this site and see a NGE thread, I'll reply.  If I was dead inside, well I don't think I would feel any sense of entitlement to do so, but as it stand.. I will spit at SOE every chance I get in the future, and rightfully so.  

Does it make people feel less empowered to hear the NGE bashing?  Seems like the side of the truth that they don't want to hear is considered a whine to reempower themselves.  Hell I've moved on, and I don't even game because I lack the time, but I do miss gaming.  I'm just patiently waiting for the right game to come along.

Honest truth is I've lost a lot of respect for the gaming community because most gamers have a narrow unrealistic method of approaching criticism.  The true people who are dead inside are those who lack the tolerance and understand to relate to others, and they use words like "whine" to cover up the truth because they are in love with broken ideals. 

 

great post.

Don't forget that the whole anti NGE thing was just a very vocal "minority' cabal that was paid by SOE's many competitors who thought that slandering them would ruin their  "good name".

har...

Har..

HAR!

As if anyone needs do more than continue to restate the words and actions of SOE to reinforce their... BAD name...  SOE is literally a "3 letter word" in the MMO industry.

Too bad I can't dress up as the New Bioware MMO for trick or treating in Mos Eisley.

It so badly wants to be wow.

So did they turn the great maze on Lok into a Corn maze?   It would be "fun", and "cool", if it wasn't for the fact that they did this in SWG. BTW I thought Twilek's had sharp teeth.

Where the hell is Obrak? Shouldn't he have jumped in on this thread to defend SWG already?

Originally posted by rashhero

Where the hell is Obrak? Shouldn't he have jumped in on this thread to defend SWG already?

He's busy with the annual SWG pumpkin carving contest.