unlike the likes of age of conan and vanguard which do have something to hide . warhammer is actually a very good product . i wont make comparissons to other mmos but it certainly holds its own against the best of them . its a lot of fun and has a lot of nice touches in it and i m sure it will improve even more over time .

but lets face it . a lot of peopel are wary having been burnt by other products in the past . or maybe they have a system them arnt sure if it ll work on .

what warhammer needs is a free trial and soon  . it would certainly gain a lot of new subscribers when people see how much it has to offer for themselves . unfortunatly i guess it would also mean gold sellers but it would be worth it to see the game become more popular after all you can ignore gold sellers cant you .

Doesn't it already have a free trial?

no not yet . usually it takes several months to get a free trial up and running for an mmo . the problem is a lot of people are used to demos and mmos are the one genre of game that traditionally dont offer such a thing from the word go . sometimes for good reason . in the first months an mmo can be so problematic the product would be harmed in terms of units sold because of a trial . this is nt always the case though . while warhammer does need some polishing the game is strong enough to warrent one now . in fact it with other mmo expansions coming out soon . i think it would be a huge mistake on thier part to leave it till early in the new year .

I agree like the title says -  A solid game. Sadly, its a bad MMO.

It almost as good as AoC and worse than WoW and gets about as stale as LOTR. It would be a good game if it was offered for free.

Originally posted by BesCirga

I agree like the title says -  A solid game. Sadly, its a bad MMO.

What does that Even mean?

MMOs are games.... if its a solid game its a solid MMO stop trolling.

its quite odd what people would describe as a good mmo . i mean has there really been one we could all agree was great . lets face it warcraft by its sheer number of subscirbers means it got more right than it got wrong but is it good ? 

well personally i think its a good game but in some  ways i would like to see an rpg with a slightly more serious side but with the fun factor some of the more serious rpgs lack .

i think what warhammer fall short on is its world enviroment to some degree . given much of the game is aimed at pvp it means it the feel of a vibrant world community at least at the early stages is a little bleak . but the pvp side is a lot of fun .

its quite difficult at this point to say what the longevity of warhammer would be like compared to games such as warcraft . you can really only say its a bad mmo after playing if for a couple of months at least or if its got as many problems as say vanguard or age of conan had on release . its far too early to make such a sweeping statement and really casts some validity on it .

such views in these forums are the real reason that warhammer need a free trial . to be honest i was nt sure when i started playing it but the more i m seeing of it the more i m thinking ....ok maybe this is nt another warcraft and theres things that needs to be improved but it has that additction factor and if your someone that likes pvp this could really have something to offer . maybe more so than wow .

at the end of the day theres not really any reason to have to chose one mmo over another . i now have three i like wow war and lotro . given theres usually a two year wait between expansions theres really no reason stay in one game when the boredom sets in .

personally i think warhammer will be like lotro  a game i play maybe for a month or two at a time . warcraft will proberbly ( not definatly though )  be the game i spend most time in  . after all in my view at present ( with the possible exception of eve which is great just not my type of game ) theres very little out there worth playing and i ve tried most of them .

Originally posted by BesCirga

I agree like the title says -  A solid game. Sadly, its a bad MMO.

Maybe you mean the case and CD are solid? I just don't understand you beacause you sprout out such jibberish...

ps. Also OP please work on your Capitalization.

Originally posted by Z3R01

Originally posted by BesCirga

I agree like the title says -  A solid game. Sadly, its a bad MMO.

 

What does that Even mean?

MMOs are games.... if its a solid game its a solid MMO stop trolling.

:P he d make a great greenskin lol .  theres very little to hate in this game . when there is i d be the first to say so in these forums . as for how the game plays unlike conan and vanguard (at the time of release) warhammer is a good solid game . maybe it wont appeal to everyone . it certainly would nt appeal if repedative pve instances are your thing . i like both myself but find that the pvp in wow somewhat underplayed .

thats why warhammer offers a good alternative and thats why there needs to be a free trial so people can see if for themselves then buy the game if its what appeals to them and my bet is that it will appeal to a lot of people .

Originally posted by shyguy101

Originally posted by BesCirga

I agree like the title says -  A solid game. Sadly, its a bad MMO.

 

Maybe you mean the case and CD are solid? I just don't understand you beacause you sprout out such jibberish...

 

ps. Also OP please work on your Capitalization.

lol ok pops :P  .... this an internet forum  you know its not an exam . dont make yourself look silly by treating it as such . i mean who can be bothered in keeping hitting the cap locks or shift key so someone with a love of the written word such as yourself has to comment on it . lol . i think that says a lot more about you than it does me .

Originally posted by Z3R01

Originally posted by BesCirga

I agree like the title says -  A solid game. Sadly, its a bad MMO.

 

What does that Even mean?

MMOs are games.... if its a solid game its a solid MMO stop trolling.

It means that WAR would be a solid single player game, but fails on delievering a living virtual online world where players can play their alter ego (if desired). WAR fails as an MMO because: Small Zones with invisible walls surrounding you, forcing you to take set path. As a Warhammer enthusiast for 15+ years, I would, ungrudgingly, go as far as calling this a blasphemy. It doesn't matter what kind of MMO it is, PvE or PvP, the first and foremost important thing the creators need to do in a MMO, is to make a living world where you can place your content in - WAR fails horribly here, alongside AoC. 

This is my short version of why I think WAR is a bad MMO, and why I can already call this a failure MMO - the foundation of which the game is build on is all wrong (for me).

Call me a troll all you like, it matters not. The word troll has lost all meaning ...

Originally posted by googajoob7

Originally posted by shyguy101

Originally posted by BesCirga

I agree like the title says -  A solid game. Sadly, its a bad MMO.

 

Maybe you mean the case and CD are solid? I just don't understand you beacause you sprout out such jibberish...

 

ps. Also OP please work on your Capitalization.

 

lol ok pops :P  .... this an internet forum  you know its not an exam . dont make yourself look silly by treating it as such . i mean who can be bothered in keeping hitting the cap locks or shift key so someone with a love of the written word such as yourself has to comment on it . lol . i think that says a lot more about you than it does me .

No I was not trying to insult you. You don't have to change it at all. I was just thinking if you know how to sentence structure and capitalize beginning  of sentences and know "LOL" is not a sentence then you should just do it. Easier to read by a great amount. However you post in forums is fine but watch what you say please.

Unless someone is a no-good dirty troll then I say BURN!

Originally posted by BesCirga

Originally posted by Z3R01

Originally posted by BesCirga

I agree like the title says -  A solid game. Sadly, its a bad MMO.

 

What does that Even mean?

MMOs are games.... if its a solid game its a solid MMO stop trolling.

 

It means that WAR would be a solid single player game, but fails on delievering a living virtual online world where players can play their alter ego (if desired). WAR fails as an MMO because: Small Zones with invisible walls surrounding you, forcing you to take set path. As a Warhammer enthusiast for 15+ years, I would, ungrudgingly, go as far as calling this a blasphemy. It doesn't matter what kind of MMO it is, PvE or PvP, the first and foremost important thing the creators need to do in a MMO, is to make a living world where you can place your content in - WAR fails horribly here, alongside AoC. 

This is my short version of why I think WAR is a bad MMO, and why I can already call this a failure MMO - the foundation of which the game is build on is all wrong (for me).

Call me a troll all you like, it matters not. The word troll has lost all meaning ...

You call them invisible walls... I call them mountains. Climb over the mountain and POOF! No more invisible walls.

Originally posted by shyguy101

Originally posted by BesCirga

I agree like the title says -  A solid game. Sadly, its a bad MMO.

 

Maybe you mean the case and CD are solid? I just don't understand you beacause you sprout out such jibberish...

 

ps. Also OP please work on your Capitalization.

Hmm..I didnt think a MMO community would have any problems understanding this sentence, and the difference between a normal PC game and a MMO game. I guess I overestimated the community. My apologies

Originally posted by googajoob7

Originally posted by shyguy101

Originally posted by BesCirga

I agree like the title says -  A solid game. Sadly, its a bad MMO.

 

Maybe you mean the case and CD are solid? I just don't understand you beacause you sprout out such jibberish...

 

ps. Also OP please work on your Capitalization.

 

lol ok pops :P  .... this an internet forum  you know its not an exam . dont make yourself look silly by treating it as such . i mean who can be bothered in keeping hitting the cap locks or shift key so someone with a love of the written word such as yourself has to comment on it . lol . i think that says a lot more about you than it does me .

No, it just shows you don't know how to properly write. Doesn't matter the medium. 

But back on topic, WAR does not need a free trial just yet, give it at least 6 months before going down that road.

Originally posted by shyguy101

Originally posted by BesCirga

It means that WAR would be a solid single player game, but fails on delievering a living virtual online world where players can play their alter ego (if desired). WAR fails as an MMO because: Small Zones with invisible walls surrounding you, forcing you to take set path. As a Warhammer enthusiast for 15+ years, I would, ungrudgingly, go as far as calling this a blasphemy. It doesn't matter what kind of MMO it is, PvE or PvP, the first and foremost important thing the creators need to do in a MMO, is to make a living world where you can place your content in - WAR fails horribly here, alongside AoC. 

This is my short version of why I think WAR is a bad MMO, and why I can already call this a failure MMO - the foundation of which the game is build on is all wrong (for me).

Call me a troll all you like, it matters not. The word troll has lost all meaning ...

 

You call them invisible walls... I call them mountains. Climb over the mountain and POOF! No more invisible walls.

That would be all good and dandy IF it was possible.

I call it a really amazing game that is finished and growing. You call it a bad mmo. See the difference between us?

-There's always a way behind the mountain you're just not looking hard enough.

the just announced they are coming out with a trial soon which is good

 Hehe. Yes I do

There is no way behind the mountains im talking about, because there is no scripted world there...By that theory I could climbed over the Norscan mountains, run to the southern shores, dived into the sea of claws, hoped to survive the swim over to the shores of Marienburg and then raided some defenseless villages like a real norseman! Sadly, I cant :\

I agree with Kyleran. Give the free trial some time to come out because it doesn't need to happen immediatly. It will show the game has plenty of value going for it.