Warhammer has a ton of low population servers.   They have decided that they are going to allow people to transfer off of those servers for free.  In essence, closing down those servers.

AoC is shooting themselves in the foot with their 'server merger' plan.  It is going to take too long.  They should simply do like warhammer and allow free transfers off of the dead servers NOW rather then spending a few months doing the programming necessary to allow 'mergers'.

Great from mystic to make a decision like that so fast its  the best idea , merging is probably a complicated issue for aoc , with both names ,and  guild names etc  and battlekeeps its destined to be a mess no matter what , with free transfers from ghost towns , that issue would solve itself imo.

Originally posted by Azrile

Warhammer has a ton of low population servers.   They have decided that they are going to allow people to transfer off of those servers for free.  In essence, closing down those servers.

AoC is shooting themselves in the foot with their 'server merger' plan.  It is going to take too long.  They should simply do like warhammer and allow free transfers off of the dead servers NOW rather then spending a few months doing the programming necessary to allow 'mergers'.

EDIT AGAIN (changed text back because information incorrect):

Are you sure that this just isn't an announcement for the future? Rather than they are ready for it to go ahead? Because server transfers aint simple. Especially when guilds have established themselves like in AOC.

Obviously the devs haven't laid out a ground plan for allowing people to switch servers on AOC yet. I doubt that WAR have either, unless they fully intended this to happen from the start.
 

Originally posted by Tarka

Originally posted by Azrile

Warhammer has a ton of low population servers.   They have decided that they are going to allow people to transfer off of those servers for free.  In essence, closing down those servers.

AoC is shooting themselves in the foot with their 'server merger' plan.  It is going to take too long.  They should simply do like warhammer and allow free transfers off of the dead servers NOW rather then spending a few months doing the programming necessary to allow 'mergers'.

Are you sure that this just isn't an announcement for the future? Rather than they are ready for it to go ahead? Because server transfers aint simple.  Especially when guilds have established themselves like in AOC.

Obviously the devs haven't laid out a ground plan for allowing people to switch servers on AOC yet.  I doubt that WAR have either, unless they fully intended this to happen from the start.

 

That is kinda what I was getting at with AOC.   Server mergers aren't easy  IF you try to do anything with guilds and cities.  Warhammer isn't doing that.  They are basically going to make players quit their guilds and then reform them on another server (if they chose).   Transfering player data from one server to another is pretty simple and most games do that.   Transporting guild status and cities from one server to another is much harder (which is why it is taking AOC so long).

Originally posted by Tarka

Originally posted by Azrile

Warhammer has a ton of low population servers.   They have decided that they are going to allow people to transfer off of those servers for free.  In essence, closing down those servers.

AoC is shooting themselves in the foot with their 'server merger' plan.  It is going to take too long.  They should simply do like warhammer and allow free transfers off of the dead servers NOW rather then spending a few months doing the programming necessary to allow 'mergers'.

EDIT:  I believe this was fully intended from the start.  The servers were never fully opened to max capacity which forced people to distribute across the servers rather than a lot being on some and hardly any being on others.  However, allowing server transfers will cause this to happen anyhow.  Just like it did with AOC.

Server transfers aint simple, especially when guilds have established themselves like in AOC.

 

It's very possible they had a plan in place to combat this scenario. It's a shame most developers don't plan ahead for similar events. I guess most feel it gives a negative message to the public. In my opinion, it actually sends a different message, they care about their player base first and foremost.

Well atleast War players will be able to transfer to a more populated server if they want.  Now if only AoC could take the hint lol. Transfers would be better than the current method.... complete reroll lol.

Sorry, i was getting confused at old information.  OP can you post a link to where you got this information.  Because I'm getting mixed signals from WAR players. Old info suggests that servers were deliberately capped.  But newer comments are from people unsure as to whether transfers are going to be allowed.

Originally posted by Azrile

Warhammer has a ton of low population servers.   They have decided that they are going to allow people to transfer off of those servers for free.  In essence, closing down those servers.

AoC is shooting themselves in the foot with their 'server merger' plan.  It is going to take too long.  They should simply do like warhammer and allow free transfers off of the dead servers NOW rather then spending a few months doing the programming necessary to allow 'mergers'.

The reference to the server transfers in the announcement:

These transfers will be free of charge but they will be limited to moves off high-population servers to select mid-population servers or off of low-population servers to a selection of mid-population servers. Much like we are doing now, we will select certain mid-population servers and let people transfer there. Once they reach a certain population level, we’ll remove them from the list and give their spot to another server. We will publish the list ahead of time so players can plan their moves accordingly.

I think the overall message is they are in favor of the player experience when it comes to server populations as well as providing incentives to balance out Order and Destruction on some servers.  That it's free and is coming earlier than later is good thing in my eyes.

It will be interesting to see how Funcom manages the server population concern, and hopefully it turns out to be a positive transition.

Originally posted by Tarka

Sorry, i was getting confused at old information.  OP can you post a link to where you got this information.  Because I'm getting mixed signals from WAR players. Old info suggests that servers were deliberately capped.  But newer comments are from people unsure as to whether transfers are going to be allowed.

I think the info is coming from Jacobs state of the game letter, that came out today. Which is easy to find on the Herald, I'm prettty sure anyway.

Originally posted by Tarka

Sorry, i was getting confused at old information.  OP can you post a link to where you got this information.  Because I'm getting mixed signals from WAR players. Old info suggests that servers were deliberately capped.  But newer comments are from people unsure as to whether transfers are going to be allowed.

Here you go Tarka:

http://herald.warhammeronline.com/warherald/NewsArticle.war?id=386

The schedule for the server transfers is currently for patch 1.1, planned for this fall.

Originally posted by Malickie

Originally posted by Tarka

Originally posted by Azrile

Warhammer has a ton of low population servers.   They have decided that they are going to allow people to transfer off of those servers for free.  In essence, closing down those servers.

AoC is shooting themselves in the foot with their 'server merger' plan.  It is going to take too long.  They should simply do like warhammer and allow free transfers off of the dead servers NOW rather then spending a few months doing the programming necessary to allow 'mergers'.

EDIT:  I believe this was fully intended from the start.  The servers were never fully opened to max capacity which forced people to distribute across the servers rather than a lot being on some and hardly any being on others.  However, allowing server transfers will cause this to happen anyhow.  Just like it did with AOC.

Server transfers aint simple, especially when guilds have established themselves like in AOC.

 

It's very possible they had a plan in place to combat this scenario. It's a shame most developers don't plan ahead for similar events. I guess most feel it gives a negative message to the public. In my opinion, it actually sends a different message, they care about their player base first and foremost.

EDIT: Post didn't work.

I also think it sends the right message to the players - Mythic is more concerned with players enjoying the game than perceptions.

Much more importantly than just the message it sends, however - it will actually allow people to enjoy the game more by being able to play on a more populated server.

Granted, balanced populations are probably much more important to WAR given the RvR nature of the game.  Still, playing an MMO on a low pop server isn't generally fun.
 

Originally posted by SinReaper

Originally posted by Azrile

Warhammer has a ton of low population servers.   They have decided that they are going to allow people to transfer off of those servers for free.  In essence, closing down those servers.

AoC is shooting themselves in the foot with their 'server merger' plan.  It is going to take too long.  They should simply do like warhammer and allow free transfers off of the dead servers NOW rather then spending a few months doing the programming necessary to allow 'mergers'.

 

I read that announcement this morning and just wanted to add that they also mentioned transfers from high population servers to low and medium population servers.

I think the overall message is they are in favor of the player experience when it comes server populations as well as providing incentives to balance out Order and Destruction on some servers.  That it's free and is coming earlier than later is good thing in my eyes.

It will be interesting to see how Funcom manages the server population concern, and hopefully it turns out to be a positive transition.

I don't think they are going to allow players transfers TO low pop servers.    I think the low pops and the high pops will both be allowed to go to med pops and that is it.

Gameplay in Warhammer really suffers on low population servers.   The server I played on was medium and it still felt like a ghosttown in the rvr lakes.

Originally posted by SinReaper

Originally posted by Tarka

Sorry, i was getting confused at old information.  OP can you post a link to where you got this information.  Because I'm getting mixed signals from WAR players. Old info suggests that servers were deliberately capped.  But newer comments are from people unsure as to whether transfers are going to be allowed.

 

Here you go Tarka:

http://herald.warhammeronline.com/warherald/NewsArticle.war?id=386

The schedule for the server transfers is currently for patch 1.1, planned for this fall.

"Other changes for 1.1 include major additions to the chat system (item linking and more) as well as continued work on our targeting system, including adding Main Assist and Target of Target. In addition to the server balancing methods that have worked so well over the last week, we will also be offering the first server transfers to our players to continue to help even out the server populations. These transfers will be free of charge but they will be limited to moves off high-population servers to select mid-population servers or off of low-population servers to a selection of mid-population servers. Much like we are doing now, we will select certain mid-population servers and let people transfer there. Once they reach a certain population level, we’ll remove them from the list and give their spot to another server. We will publish the list ahead of time so players can plan their moves accordingly."

Was just highlighting the section for ya from the link cause that was a long read lol. I think Funcom could take some pointers on how to deal with there player base from Mythic. I still have no love for War though.

Thanks for the link, that letter tells more than the OP was saying. 

Having done that, we can now move on to what we are going to do over the next couple of months, culminating with the release of patch 1.1 later this Fall.

So basically put, transfers aren't ready yet and are coming this "fall".  Even though they mention December.  Now I'm not American but last I checked "Fall" was Autumn, not Winter.

This is much like FC's messages that THEIR server merges aren't ready yet. Though FC have yet to confirm or deny the possibility of character transfers.

Originally posted by Tarka

Thanks for the link, that letter tells more that OP did.  It basically states that transfers aren't ready and are coming this "fall".  Even though they mention December.  Which is odd, because December ISN'T in fall (I ain't American but last I checked "Fall" was Autumn, not Winter).

December was when he said the two missing classes should be ready, was that part of 1.1 to? I really didn't read the whole SOTG( I shamelessly just skimmed through it ).

Originally posted by Azrile

Originally posted by SinReaper

Originally posted by Azrile

Warhammer has a ton of low population servers.   They have decided that they are going to allow people to transfer off of those servers for free.  In essence, closing down those servers.

AoC is shooting themselves in the foot with their 'server merger' plan.  It is going to take too long.  They should simply do like warhammer and allow free transfers off of the dead servers NOW rather then spending a few months doing the programming necessary to allow 'mergers'.

 

I read that announcement this morning and just wanted to add that they also mentioned transfers from high population servers to low and medium population servers.

I think the overall message is they are in favor of the player experience when it comes server populations as well as providing incentives to balance out Order and Destruction on some servers.  That it's free and is coming earlier than later is good thing in my eyes.

It will be interesting to see how Funcom manages the server population concern, and hopefully it turns out to be a positive transition.

 

I don't think they are going to allow players transfers TO low pop servers.    I think the low pops and the high pops will both be allowed to go to med pops and that is it.

Gameplay in Warhammer really suffers on low population servers.   The server I played on was medium and it still felt like a ghosttown in the rvr lakes.

You're right, I had gone back and replaced that with the official text; but it looks like you still had the original quote in there. No worries!

Sorry I was editing my post whilst you posted yours hehe.

He mentions:

Having done that, we can now move on to what we are going to do over the next couple of months, culminating with the release of patch 1.1 later this Fall.

And then immediately follow it with:

 Let’s start with what we know is some truly exciting news. I’m happy to announce that in December, the Black Guard and the Knight of the Blazing Sun will officially be part of WAR.

Which says to me that this new patch ain't coming in the next month or so for WAR.

So, in essence, AOC may actually beat WAR to server merges and transfers ;P

Originally posted by Malickie

Originally posted by Tarka

Thanks for the link, that letter tells more that OP did.  It basically states that transfers aren't ready and are coming this "fall".  Even though they mention December.  Which is odd, because December ISN'T in fall (I ain't American but last I checked "Fall" was Autumn, not Winter).

 

December was when he said the two missing classes should be ready, was that part of 1.1 to? I really didn't read the whole SOTG( I shamelessly just skimmed through it ).

From what I understood, the body of the article was prefaced with an update regarding these two classes. It then moved on to discuss patch 1.1 and the changes planned therein. Seemed straightfoward enough:

1. The two classes not in at release-Coming this December

2. The main items planned to be addressed in patch 1.1-Coming this Fall

But it is already 'this fall' and we only have a little over a month til December.

Woohoo.. maybe we have something else to bet on.. which game will offer server mergers/transfers first.

I do think Warhammer actually needs them first.   FFA pvp on a low population server is better than RvR pvp on a low population server.. especially when eveyrone is on the same faction.

Originally posted by Azrile

But it is already 'this fall' and we only have a little over a month til December.

Woohoo.. maybe we have something else to bet on.. which game will offer server mergers/transfers first.

I do think Warhammer actually needs them first.   FFA pvp on a low population server is better than RvR pvp on a low population server.. especially when eveyrone is on the same faction.

I agree in that warhammer needs them first. The whole game is designed around population. Where as with AoC the details haven'f fully been released yet as well as the game not reliant as heavy as WAR is on population - I'm not saying AoC isn't effected, just not as much imo. If I remember right AoC will be looking in releasing further details end of the year / Jan time.