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  TenSpotting

Novice Member

Joined: 9/22/08
Posts: 395

10/16/08 8:55:48 AM#21
Originally posted by eq2pvpsucks

Look how popular this game's become pre-release with little to no public advertising from this small greek indie company.  Kudos to them for weathering the storm throughout the years to bring us this.  This is what too many of us have been waiting for, and we're telling the masses.  Quality product = free advertising.

Ya look how popular.

Hype-level

6.86

^ Expect that to drop even more after they actually grow some balls one fine day and decide to let real people in to see it finally.

Bring you what? What exactly are they bringing you?? I still can't fighure out what the fuck this game is all about or what it ACTUALLY HAS DONE.

They still have not even proven that they have 90% of the stuff they've been talking about all these years. lol

  Thoric485

Novice Member

Joined: 7/01/08
Posts: 543

10/16/08 9:09:40 AM#22
Originally posted by TenSpotting
Originally posted by eq2pvpsucks

Look how popular this game's become pre-release with little to no public advertising from this small greek indie company.  Kudos to them for weathering the storm throughout the years to bring us this.  This is what too many of us have been waiting for, and we're telling the masses.  Quality product = free advertising.

Ya look how popular.

Hype-level

6.86

^ Expect that to drop even more after they actually grow some balls one fine day and decide to let real people in to see it finally.

Bring you what? What exactly are they bringing you?? I still can't fighure out what the fuck this game is all about or what it ACTUALLY HAS DONE.

They still have not even proven that they have 90% of the stuff they've been talking about all these years. lol

lol! Well, maybe i should list all the features we saw in the video again just to be countered with silence or a witty remark!


 

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  Zayne3145

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Joined: 6/28/07
Posts: 1461

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10/16/08 9:15:59 AM#23

In all honesty I really think Adventurine are probably quite bemused at how much exposure Darkfall has had despite its lack of marketing. I don't think the viral marketing strategy was part of some big master plan at all. They either simply don't have the funds to embark on such a campaign or there is something more sinister at hand...

  zymurgeist

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Joined: 12/24/04
Posts: 4055

10/16/08 3:04:03 PM#24
Originally posted by DarthRaiden
Originally posted by zymurgeist
Originally posted by flakmonky

 

Ah, but with a sandbox game we don't need to know much about it, just the basics. We are given the freedom to create the rest!

 

Alright, flippant comments aside, they are using a very, very, old method of advertising. It works like this:

  • Put a lot of effort into your Work
  • Take pride in what yOu make
  • Don't sell it if it is crap, staRt over instead
  • Let the quality of the proDuct speak for itself
  • Of mouth

This used to be all the advertising you could get. It has been in use since before the industrial revolution.


 

What is this? Some new mantra you're going to throw out there hoping reality fades away? Word of mouth doesn't work on large scale media. If it did companies wouldn't bother to spend millions of dollars advertising. Thirty guys in a room in Greece are not going to outwit the entire business world.

 

But it helped to get you here , right ?! lol..

Word of  mouth is the best when it comes to create a really GOOD community.

Other advertise may get you larger community but not quality one. Just take MMORPG.com as example.


 

No what got me here was actually someone saying "Look at this POS. It'll never launch."  I generally keep an open mind so I haven't dismissed it entirely. Besides if it goes down in flames everyone loves to watch a good train wreck. Yeah I'm real impressed with the Darkfall community  

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  DarthRaiden

Apprentice Member

Joined: 11/20/05
Posts: 4040

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10/16/08 3:18:26 PM#25
Originally posted by zymurgeist


 

No what got me here was actually someone saying "Look at this POS. It'll never launch."  I generally keep an open mind so I haven't dismissed it entirely. Besides if it goes down in flames everyone loves to watch a good train wreck. Yeah I'm real impressed with the Darkfall community  

I am sure you know that the ethics of those people are very questionable at best and there is often a need  to force those people  to go away  ? because they are a obstacle to the situation and of absolutely no use ?

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  zymurgeist

Elite Member

Joined: 12/24/04
Posts: 4055

10/16/08 3:22:34 PM#26
Originally posted by DarthRaiden
Originally posted by zymurgeist


 

No what got me here was actually someone saying "Look at this POS. It'll never launch."  I generally keep an open mind so I haven't dismissed it entirely. Besides if it goes down in flames everyone loves to watch a good train wreck. Yeah I'm real impressed with the Darkfall community  

I am sure you know that the ethics of those people are very questionable at best and there is often a need  to force those people  to go away  ? because they are a obstacle to the situation and of absolutely no use ?


 

I'm sure  people I know who watched Dakrfall for years that I have gamed with and trust have better ethics than you. Because they give honest opinions and aren't swayed by stupidity such as "word of mouth is the best advertising."  You realize that's an advertising slogan made up on Wall Street  by an ad exec right?

"Any sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice." ~Greys Law

  DarthRaiden

Apprentice Member

Joined: 11/20/05
Posts: 4040

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10/16/08 3:40:15 PM#27
Originally posted by zymurgeist
Originally posted by DarthRaiden
Originally posted by zymurgeist


 

No what got me here was actually someone saying "Look at this POS. It'll never launch."  I generally keep an open mind so I haven't dismissed it entirely. Besides if it goes down in flames everyone loves to watch a good train wreck. Yeah I'm real impressed with the Darkfall community  

I am sure you know that the ethics of those people are very questionable at best and there is often a need  to force those people  to go away  ? because they are a obstacle to the situation and of absolutely no use ?


 

I'm sure  people I know who watched Dakrfall for years that I have gamed with and trust have better ethics than you. Because they give honest opinions and aren't swayed by stupidity such as "word of mouth is the best advertising."  You realize that's an advertising slogan made up on Wall Street  by an ad exec right?

 

You can think of  my opinion of what you want but you not allowed to question my honesty mmkay  ?

And about your ethics me and other posters here can get some taste  in your last reply .. I can imagine the fun you and your bunch of "honest" friends have watching flames of a "good train wreck" ..

-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE--------------------------------------------------
$OE - eternal enemy of online gaming
-We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!

"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)

  Shadowoak

Novice Member

Joined: 1/07/06
Posts: 244

10/16/08 4:27:21 PM#28
Originally posted by zymurgeist
Originally posted by DarthRaiden
Originally posted by zymurgeist
Originally posted by flakmonky

 

Ah, but with a sandbox game we don't need to know much about it, just the basics. We are given the freedom to create the rest!

 

Alright, flippant comments aside, they are using a very, very, old method of advertising. It works like this:

  • Put a lot of effort into your Work
  • Take pride in what yOu make
  • Don't sell it if it is crap, staRt over instead
  • Let the quality of the proDuct speak for itself
  • Of mouth

This used to be all the advertising you could get. It has been in use since before the industrial revolution.


 

What is this? Some new mantra you're going to throw out there hoping reality fades away? Word of mouth doesn't work on large scale media. If it did companies wouldn't bother to spend millions of dollars advertising. Thirty guys in a room in Greece are not going to outwit the entire business world.

 

But it helped to get you here , right ?! lol..

Word of  mouth is the best when it comes to create a really GOOD community.

Other advertise may get you larger community but not quality one. Just take MMORPG.com as example.


 

No what got me here was actually someone saying "Look at this POS. It'll never launch."  I generally keep an open mind so I haven't dismissed it entirely. Besides if it goes down in flames everyone loves to watch a good train wreck. Yeah I'm real impressed with the Darkfall community  

 

Yeah, because comments like that one make you keep posting about this game.

 

Yeah, actualy, you're right. When someone will tell me about something and how it sucks, the first thing I'm going to do is to go check it and talk about it. Yeah, sure.

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