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General Discussion  » Mystery behind Destruction Taking T4 zones in 2 hours solved.

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  Steelguru

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Joined: 8/05/08
Posts: 119

10/15/08 2:01:00 PM#21

 

Is this getting fixed in the patch today, anyone know?   I saw they are making a number of changes, something like this should be a priority over anything else.

  banthis

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Joined: 3/19/07
Posts: 1914

10/15/08 2:09:50 PM#22
Originally posted by Azrile

When people argued that having the open beta only last til 20 levels was fine.. well, this is what you get.

Welcome to open beta everyone.. please pay at the door.    You have now entered the paid beta phase of Warhammer.

Please list 1 Major MMO Game that let their Open Beta Players (..not testers because no oen goes to OB to Test thats what Closed Beta is for)...to experience end game....lemme see...EQ2..nope..SWG Nope...WoW Nope (not for months)...AoC...uh its still kinda not fixed even now...hmm..im seeing a pattern.
 

Allowing Open Beta players to get to 40 does nothing but allow them a Free Ride it's suicide to any one who wants to keep their game open after launch.  Its one thing to auto level the players to 40 to let them test it..its another to let them play straight through as if the game was live.  Sorry this argument is old, dead, and just as dumb as ever from the free loaders.

To Be honest I'm disappointed to hear the exploit is still there but not really surpsied.  There's no MMO game on earth that didn't have some exploit left in an end game, mid game, or beginning game area somewhere at some point.   Seeing as the Exploit still didn't get them a Capture of the city I hardly call it a huge deal if it allowed them to suddenly go into the enemy city..then I'd could see all the QQing going on.

  Channce

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Posts: 456

10/15/08 2:12:58 PM#23

I have been watching and reporting all the "cool kids" over on destruction with the exploits they have so "skillfully" found.

When I said i had "time", i meant virtual time, i got no RL "time" for you.

  Sovrath

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Joined: 1/06/05
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10/15/08 2:20:08 PM#24
Originally posted by Redmow

 Do you guys really think, if this is the case, Mythic is going to let this stay the way it is?

 I'm more angry with the people exploiting this, again if this is the case. Sounds like someone accidentally found this exploit and instead of reporting it, they utilised it.

 I would have never noticed this while playing, I think it is just one of those things that slipped by the testers. Every game has these types of exploits that can only be found through mass play. But, to get angry and quit is just silly. Now, if they don't fix it and let it stand....yeah, I can then understand quitting.

 


 

Just for laughs, I'll ask: has anyone actually reported this or are people just assuming that they will see these posts?

  boomerangx

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I hope Aion doesn't suck...

10/15/08 2:26:51 PM#25
Originally posted by Steelguru

 

Is this getting fixed in the patch today, anyone know?   I saw they are making a number of changes, something like this should be a priority over anything else.

 

idk but there has to be a major reason the servers are coming back down...hopefully this is one of the things getting fixed - but i highly doubt it

I play a lot of games...

  Czzarre

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10/15/08 3:00:49 PM#26

Can ORder not do this as well?

  laresloci

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10/15/08 3:06:20 PM#27
Originally posted by RedwoodSap
Originally posted by MMOPlaya

What is VP?


 

Victory points.

This is yet another example of how crappy the internal and beta testing for Warhammer has been.

Why they have not acted on this immediately is an indication of how they are going to handle cheaters. They plan on doing nothing.

 

Really true, I just can't believe this.

Why is it that, as a culture, we are more comfortable seeing two men holding guns than holding hands? ~Ernest Gaines

  boomerangx

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I hope Aion doesn't suck...

10/15/08 3:11:24 PM#28
Originally posted by Czzarre

Can ORder not do this as well?

 

um thats not really the point is it? to fight exploits with exploits? i think the point is that destruction IS using these exploits to gain zone control - and order is NOT...

I play a lot of games...

  wjrasmussen

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Joined: 4/16/05
Posts: 1504

10/15/08 3:11:25 PM#29

Fixing it is one thing.  I don't think they will ban anyone over this.

  wesjr

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Joined: 3/22/04
Posts: 226

10/15/08 3:17:53 PM#30
Originally posted by boomerangx
Originally posted by Czzarre

Can ORder not do this as well?

 

um thats not really the point is it? to fight exploits with exploits? i think the point is that destruction IS using these exploits to gain zone control - and order is NOT...


 

I love how its always only 1 side doing the hacking, exploiting etc ...

 

I am sure there are just as many ORDER doing the same shit.

  Steelguru

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Joined: 8/05/08
Posts: 119

10/15/08 3:18:22 PM#31
Originally posted by wjrasmussen

Fixing it is one thing.  I don't think they will ban anyone over this.


 

Well that would be a great way to level off the population imbalance lol (banning them).

To previous poster before you, I'm sure that Order can as well.   However as someone else said, that is not the point.   I won't do it, nor bring it up to others I know at all.   If someone has to stoop to cheating in a video game, I think that speaks very poorly to their character.   I'm sure there are just as many bad elements on Order side percentage wise - there are just more people overall Dest side, so there will be more people overall doing it.....and more people knowing I'd think would spread the word faster to boot.   And frankly I'd always know in the back of my mind that I did that......and would feel like my character was "tainted" due to that cheating.   There is something to be said for earning things legitimately in life (gaming or not)......doing things the right  way can be tedious, but the sense of accomplishment gained and self-respect earned is something that can't be found any other way.

  boomerangx

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Joined: 2/05/08
Posts: 259

I hope Aion doesn't suck...

10/15/08 3:23:03 PM#32
Originally posted by wesjr
Originally posted by boomerangx
Originally posted by Czzarre

Can ORder not do this as well?

 

um thats not really the point is it? to fight exploits with exploits? i think the point is that destruction IS using these exploits to gain zone control - and order is NOT...


 

I love how its always only 1 side doing the hacking, exploiting etc ...

 

I am sure there are just as many ORDER doing the same shit.

 

i know right? thats why we have seen 100 thread about how order is capping zones in 20 minutes?

/sarcasm off

 

seriously look into this topic for a few minutes and you might actually know why this thread is getting the attention it is ..it is not because of Order it is bc of Destruction...

 

YES, I am sure this has happened on both sides, but what side is doing os so extensively that it merits such threads? DESTRUCTION

I play a lot of games...

  Wakygreek

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Patience is a virtue, reason a necessity

10/15/08 3:28:46 PM#33
Originally posted by RedwoodSap
Originally posted by MMOPlaya

What is VP?


 

Victory points.

This is yet another example of how crappy the internal and beta testing for Warhammer has been.

Why they have not acted on this immediately is an indication of how they are going to handle cheaters. They plan on doing nothing.


 

In beta you can only catch so many things, I like how you know for a fact they plan on doing nothing, when there constant patches seem to be showing the opposite.  Im sorry were you even in the Beta testing for Warhammer? Anyway that is irelevant if you have a problem with the situation, you can always quit and go to another game.

  iamrt

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Joined: 3/11/05
Posts: 3

10/15/08 3:32:42 PM#34

is there any sort of mod or somewhere to look on the GUI that displays an actual numerical indicator of VP? to me it just seems like its a slider that mysteriously moves

  Steelguru

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Joined: 8/05/08
Posts: 119

10/15/08 4:22:13 PM#35
Originally posted by iamrt

is there any sort of mod or somewhere to look on the GUI that displays an actual numerical indicator of VP? to me it just seems like its a slider that mysteriously moves


 

Good question......and also they need to really document how movement is calculated.   At least if they have, I haven't seen it.    For example - for 5 hours on Saturday night, hundreds of Order held the Keeps on my server (Ulthuan) in both Saphery and Avelorn (and more for all I know, as I know mass RvR was going on all weekend).   Typically the big Dest zerg guild (Six Mouths) comes in an sweeps the Keeps at all times of day.   Yet when we held them for that 5 hour period, we STILL had not turned the bar to Order in either zone.   And we did continue to recap BO's as well when Dest would turn them.    We were well coordinated among our alliance channel as well as the guild officers alliance channel - calling location, numbers, letting know how many people to send to each area and where.......we are outnumbered right now on my server so we HAVE to do that to succeed.   And it works......we owned them until I went to bed, then we took the guild banners down so the Dest zerg guild couldn't have them and skirmishes probably continued till the sun rose.   Anyway point being - it would be nice to not only see the numbers, but also fully understand how it moves.  

Maybe the Dest were just doing what this thread is about, in order to prevent us from turning the bar.

  Redmow

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Joined: 2/07/04
Posts: 196

10/15/08 4:32:43 PM#36

 Someone mentioned we're paying for beta testing the game.

 Man, if I got 10 dollars for every game that I heard that said, I'd be swimming in dough.

 Earlier someone mentioned this exploit has been around for several weeks. This is the first I've heard of it. And I'm Destruction. Even if I had known about it, I would never use it...we demand honesty from the developers, so shouldn't we likewise be honest with them and the player base?

  Douhk

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Joined: 8/19/07
Posts: 1034

10/15/08 4:41:09 PM#37

Oh, how decieving and mischivous, cheating. Although it has to be put to a stop, it fits the destruction side, you must admit.

Bwahahahahaha... too bad I'm sissy Order.

If only SW:TOR could be this epic...

  TheSheikh

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Joined: 4/29/08
Posts: 818

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10/15/08 5:18:32 PM#38

Must have been those damned Dark Elves and their dishonorable ways of achieving victory.

STOP WHINING!

  User Deleted
10/15/08 5:24:19 PM#39
Originally posted by Wakygreek
Originally posted by RedwoodSap
Originally posted by MMOPlaya

What is VP?


 

Victory points.

This is yet another example of how crappy the internal and beta testing for Warhammer has been.

Why they have not acted on this immediately is an indication of how they are going to handle cheaters. They plan on doing nothing.


 

In beta you can only catch so many things, I like how you know for a fact they plan on doing nothing, when there constant patches seem to be showing the opposite.  Im sorry were you even in the Beta testing for Warhammer? Anyway that is irelevant if you have a problem with the situation, you can always quit and go to another game.

 

In beta this was caught and turned in/reported by me and several others within the guild I was in and it still made it in. Pretty much and a good deal of people who were in beta from beginning to end can back me up on this one (check beta archives), a lot of things got missed due to fear of getting banned for not posting in a manner on the bug forums that they wanted, looks like it back fired.

  Kailash

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Joined: 1/23/07
Posts: 284

Anybody need a towel!?!

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10/16/08 9:59:55 AM#40
Originally posted by Getalife

1. Go to a zone where you can suicide by jumping off a cliff, or into lava.

2. Have a bunch of people suicide in that manner.

3. Have healers rez them

4. Repeat

You get VP by doing this. So all you have to do is cap a couple BO(not even the keeps!) then do this and you cap the zone.

 

There are two organised WARBANDS which are doing this and i am sure they are quite aware that they are exploiting a broken game mechanism. Really this is killing T4 RVR. I am fan and all but can't keep subscription on if this continues.

 

Read more about the issue here

vnboards.ign.com/warhammer_online_age_of_reckoning_general_board/b22997/108997612/p1
 


 

Haha I always wanted to know who comes up with these exploits like how completly random some are and peeps acually figuring them out always amazed me lol

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