Yes, the shadows are nice, but WoW's graphics are NOT high end, even on high settings and the macro commands to increase settings more.

WoW does have some beautiful scenery, but that is the art, not the graphics. The graphics in WoW are low end, always have been, always will, that's Blizzard's way of allowing more people to play.

Originally posted by skeaser

Yes, the shadows are nice, but WoW's graphics are NOT high end, even on high settings and the macro commands to increase settings more.

WoW does have some beautiful scenery, but that is the art, not the graphics. The graphics in WoW are low end, always have been, always will, that's Blizzard's way of allowing more people to play.

There's far more than shadows. Just look at some quest givers and the detail on the faces (the returned King of SW comes to mind).

 ... yes I already adapted and downscaled the graphics on my computer 8600 Nvidia .I used to play in 1650*1050 with all options full.

Now I am down to 1400*900 and options at half. Coming to 35/40 FPS now in my fights.

If you don't see the upgrades, you're half blind I think.

Of course it has the same graphics looks, but I just want full control of my avatar. What's the use of having some hairs more if you see stutter on the character control.

I have had enough of AoC/WAR clunky clones already.

Version1 :http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=540591

Version 2:http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=540590       Anyone notice this difference or was it just me?
 

I heard they've upgraded shadows and a new ice shader for Northrend. Apparently they are gradually implementing graphics improvements bit-by-bit rather than all at once.

Originally posted by bodypass

Originally posted by skeaser

Yes, the shadows are nice, but WoW's graphics are NOT high end, even on high settings and the macro commands to increase settings more.

WoW does have some beautiful scenery, but that is the art, not the graphics. The graphics in WoW are low end, always have been, always will, that's Blizzard's way of allowing more people to play.

 

There's far more than shadows. Just look at some quest givers and the detail on the faces (the returned King of SW comes to mind).

 ... yes I already adapted and downscaled the graphics on my computer 8600 Nvidia .I used to play in 1650*1050 with all options full.

Now I am down to 1400*900 and options at half. Coming to 35/40 FPS now in my fights.

If you don't see the upgrades, you're half blind I think.

Of course it has the same graphics looks, but I just want full control of my avatar. What's the use of having some hairs more if you see stutter on the character control.

I have had enough of AoC/WAR clunky clones already.

Just kill the shadows. In even the most ho-hum graphical games, the minute dynamic shadows are added, your GPU and CPU take a large hit. Shadows are THE most demanding graphics wise, followed by lighting.

Originally posted by Nickless_man

If thats the "new" graphics, sorry to say but its nowhere near EQ2 graphics.

im not a fanboi for either game, but eq2 graphics are nothing to rave about, and the character models in eq2 are definitely not better than wow's. 

Just wanted to drop in that the new shadows were pretty useful yesterday as while i was attacking another target i caught the shadow of a MOB behind me before it actually got to me, so i was able to turn and drop a trap just as it got to me rather than suffering a couple of attacks before i could drop a trap. I am normally more vigilant, but it never occured to me that the way you face and where the shadows drop could be that useful until that point (thick day i think :).

Originally posted by denshing

Version1 :http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=540591

Version 2:http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=540590       Anyone notice this difference or was it just me?
 

Woah, i knew it. They are trying to hide their graphics. You can see that they kinda just darkened everything out and added a brown layer. Everyone knows that Brown = Realism.

Kudos for wowers though. I bet they are satisfied witht he graphical "revamp" on the newer areas.

Originally posted by elondor

Originally posted by Nickless_man

If thats the "new" graphics, sorry to say but its nowhere near EQ2 graphics.

 

im not a fanboi for either game, but eq2 graphics are nothing to rave about, and the character models in eq2 are definitely not better than wow's. 

 

 

 

 

Meh, this is another topic where taste will be the ultimate factor. Personally, I like EQ2's graphics better, WoW's character models, and EQ2 scenery. EQ2 ran into the same barbie-esque problem a lot of games have.

Originally posted by bodypass

Originally posted by skeaser

Yes, the shadows are nice, but WoW's graphics are NOT high end, even on high settings and the macro commands to increase settings more.

WoW does have some beautiful scenery, but that is the art, not the graphics. The graphics in WoW are low end, always have been, always will, that's Blizzard's way of allowing more people to play.

 

There's far more than shadows. Just look at some quest givers and the detail on the faces (the returned King of SW comes to mind).

 ... yes I already adapted and downscaled the graphics on my computer 8600 Nvidia .I used to play in 1650*1050 with all options full.

Now I am down to 1400*900 and options at half. Coming to 35/40 FPS now in my fights.

If you don't see the upgrades, you're half blind I think.

Of course it has the same graphics looks, but I just want full control of my avatar. What's the use of having some hairs more if you see stutter on the character control.

I have had enough of AoC/WAR clunky clones already.

I'm sorry I don't see how slightly better graphics makes you lose control of your character more. Unless you mean you are lagging so bad its effecting you being able to do things. I don't notice any performance hit at all unless I have the new shadows turned on. Computer games will always advance and upgrade like this over time, MMOs are not the exception, if you can't upgrade and keep up, PC gaming probably just isn't for you anymore, and for WoW its not even like you need to upgrade hardly ever compared to other PC games.

Originally posted by Zayne3145

I heard they've upgraded shadows and a new ice shader for Northrend. Apparently they are gradually implementing graphics improvements bit-by-bit rather than all at once.

Very smart move.  I'd like to see a ""statistic" of the "age" of the average home computer. When the average home owner invests more then a couple a hundred dollars into an "appliance" they like to keep around for a while.

Frankly, I'd say for a computer I see people keeping them for 2 - 3 years at least....then "handing them down" to a younger child or someone else.

Yeah - my PC is able to run every game out there today pretty decently.  There was a noticable difference when I had the shadow detail turned up all the way.

Still playable for me, but not "smooth as glass" like I've come to expect from WoW. 

meh, not bad, shadows are a nice touch, still not enough to really warrant me to come back

 OH YEAH...

I noticed a HUGE difference is zangamarsh. I didn't get a chance to really look at the models but they look the same to me. Am I not seeing a difference with the models? 

The shadows are a very nice and overdue touch, it makes the world seem 3-D instead of flat..  It didn't kill my PC like other games tended to with shadows on.  Overall the game seems to move faster like when I have too much coffee, but that's a welcomed change as well.  I do like better graphics but not at the expense of gameplay or the generation of lag.

Fantastic indeed, end 2008 Bliztard just invented shadows in video games, I'm so impressed

Btw WoW is now lagging and i'm playing LOTRO all maxxed up without problem. Good job Bliztard, won't resub for sure.

I'm really enjoying the update, and overal UI looks a lot cooler.

Originally posted by Warpriest02

Any one else notice huge visual changes when playing this game on maximum? I got in and cranked it to max this almost looks like a completely different game and all the models look like they have been completely redone. UD chicks actually look hot

Could you send some screenshots on the forum? I realy want to see it, maybe if its realy good Im going to pla the game again :D

Also some of the npc trolls have been really working out these days. They've hulked up!

Originally posted by MyPreciousss

Fantastic indeed, end 2008 Bliztard just invented shadows in video games, I'm so impressed

 Btw WoW is now lagging and i'm playing LOTRO all maxxed up without problem. Good job Bliztard, won't resub for sure.

Phew!  So glad you're not re-subbing.  I was a bit worried about our community for a moment there.  Enjoy yours at LOTRO and give them my condolences.