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Its time to bid farewell to EVE.

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A long overdue and much needed change will be put in place with the Wednesday, 15 October 2008 patch. Ghost Training, the continuous skill gain on accounts in an inactive or expired state - will no longer function after Wednesday, 15 October 2008. This practice upsets the balance of the game, and capsuleers who actively put their time and energy into working on their characters will no longer be unfairly affected by those few who have not.

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BAD decision ever same they made on Chinese server
f**k you CCP

also many ppl take a break from eve put a long skill and 2 months make other things when skill end ppl pay the game and come back
many ppl wont come back whit this thing

if they are going to do this then they should decrease the amount of some of some skill training. instead of say 30 days its 18 or something.

bad idea on ccp part. they have become greedy and mony hungry.

they have let there success get to them.

Been looking for a reason to quit this game for good. Before I would come back because something good would train (like Heavy Drone Op V). Now I won't have a reason to return anymore.

I don't see the problem with this; We were used to it as it was convenient, but not logical. Would you level up in WOW while your account is inactive? ofcourse not. But people rather not use logic and reasoning if that interferes with wanting/having more.

So what? this will make you leave a game?

Think about it for ages people have been moaning about CCp not doing anything about the isk farmers and charcter farmers which arent doing the game any good..

Having to pay to train will cut down on these activities, yeah it may also be a money grab, anyone been watching the news lately about the economic situation in Iceland (where CCP is based)?? Ok the current economic condition could also be a reason against the move but again think about it...

Maybe the devs didnt want people to have multiple accounts like many do now and leave 'alts' accounts inactive to train while playing on another in some ways this will even the playing field, also could argue that for a while that newer players will be disadvantaged by not being able to ghost train but how else could it be done?

I think long term this could be a good move for the game, less people using alts and concertrating on the one account, would mean more people would have to rely on others to do the other things in the game, after all it is a multiplayer game remember.....

While I can see the reasons against it, it is mainly people moaning about something being taken away, but seriously think before you speak / write / rant / moan

haha CCP sucks, and I hope all their fish will die in that stupid tank on the 1st day.

Originally posted by cosy

 

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A long overdue and much needed change will be put in place with the Wednesday, 15 October 2008 patch. Ghost Training, the continuous skill gain on accounts in an inactive or expired state - will no longer function after Wednesday, 15 October 2008. This practice upsets the balance of the game, and capsuleers who actively put their time and energy into working on their characters will no longer be unfairly affected by those few who have not.

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BAD decision ever same they made on Chinese server
f**k you CCP

also many ppl take a break from eve put a long skill and 2 months make other things when skill end ppl pay the game and come back
many ppl wont come back whit this thing

Ok, let me get this straight! You want to tell CCP go to F themselves because people have been taking advantage of a bug thats been in there for years? Seriously, do you think you should get to stop PAYING for your account for 2 months while your skill still trains? Thats the most stupid thing I have ever heard! While I hate using real life to justify anything in game, I can in this instance as its not so much about in game things. You go to a gas station (that you been going to for a year now) and fill up your tank. You drive it around till its empty then go back and tell them they should give you more gas because you been filling up your tank there for a year and deserve it. See how fast they kick your butt out of there.

And if you dont like that analogy. Lets use another game. You been playing AOC for two months. Your level 40. You decide to take a break. What happens when you come back? Your still 40 with the exact same skills you had before you left. You earned nothing new. Do you think you should petition to get a level increase because you paid for the game and quit and then decided to come back?

To be honest, I am surprised they have let this go on as long as they have. I would wager that its probably cost them a fair amount of money letting people get away with that over the years. The skill system that eve has is a brilliant one. If you really want to get high level skills you have to be willing to pay for it. I mean, come on, you dont even have to be online for your skills to increase, you just have to have an ACTIVE account.  Their skills are not gained by you actually using them. its a brilliant system to keep people paying money.

heck, I have been training for the last 3 months and have only logged in to change skills. I haven't even actually played it in that time. Right now, I am simply paying for the ability that when I start playing again, my skills will have risen to where I want them to be.

Originally posted by cosy

 

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A long overdue and much needed change will be put in place with the Wednesday, 15 October 2008 patch. Ghost Training, the continuous skill gain on accounts in an inactive or expired state - will no longer function after Wednesday, 15 October 2008. This practice upsets the balance of the game, and capsuleers who actively put their time and energy into working on their characters will no longer be unfairly affected by those few who have not.

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many ppl take a break from eve put a long skill and 2 months make other things when skill end ppl pay the game and come back 

many ppl wont come back whit this thing

This is something that will hit most people, I know way too many that have set a skill and decided to take a break knowing they wont be behind the curve if they come back. 

Knowing that I AM going to be behind the curve tells me that I shouldn't bother. 

Sure, some people will disagree, after all this is all opinion based. I, however, happen to know of many many people who do this.

No reason in arguing it, simply state your opinions so that CCP or others can get an idea of what outcome may occur because of this.

DoomsDay,

Get it right they are now saying it is a bug but the manual clearly states it is a game mechanic. within the game design. It is even in a previous posters sig. Do some research before posting. Learn to read it will help you in life.

Originally posted by rbroussa

DoomsDay,

Get it right they are now saying it is a bug but the manual clearly states it is a game mechanic. within the game design. It is even in a previous posters sig. Do some research before posting. Learn to read it will help you in life.

Oh because someone has something in their sig we should just believe it. Please show me where it says in any manual that ccp has written that states learning skills while your not paying for the account is within the game design. I certainly couldn't find such a thing. There are lots of messages where people state that they feel this was within the games design but nothing in any manual created by CCP. I figure the best you will be able to come up with is some obscure post possibly by an employee that said it was ok , but guess what, people make mistakes and the person probably overstepped his authority if he stated it.

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LOL, stupid humans, they will believe anything if its written on the internet!

Originally posted by DoomsDay01

Please show me where it says in any manual that ccp has written that states learning skills while your not paying for the account is within the game design.

Hey DoomsDay01...notice the fact that this is on the official EVE Online website...scroll down to "How To Train Skills", and read the first sentence under the "some skills can't be trained on trial accounts" graphic.

That's what "inactive" means.

Originally posted by Inhibitor

Originally posted by DoomsDay01

Please show me where it says in any manual that ccp has written that states learning skills while your not paying for the account is within the game design.

 

Hey DoomsDay01...notice the fact that this is on the official EVE Online website...scroll down to "How To Train Skills", and read the first sentence under the "some skills can't be trained on trial accounts" graphic.

That's what "inactive" means.

It onlys says that inactive accounts can continue to train the skill until it is ready.

"Skills continue training even if you are logged off or if your account is inactive (in the second scenario you can't change skill training, though)."

They acknowledge it works, but that is also the only that part does.

Well DoomsDay,

Guess Inhibitor proved my point for me, I would not post if I was not absolutely sure. So maybe you can change your sig to:

I am the noob of the world, I owe everyone an apology for blindly posting. I wil start now.

This change only affects people who grow characters to sell.  At least in any meaningful way.

Despite what may have been said now and in the past I really don't see what the uproar is about.

Ok so now you cant stop paying for Eve and still skill train, thats cool.

Tbh it was stupid that they let people train while accounts weren't active anyway.

I'm sorry but if you're training your character you should be paying CCP the person the decided ghost training was ok for this long should be fired cause now a bunch of people that don't really want to play eve will leave since they cant pay for one month and train for free the next two and so on.

This won't make me leave EVE, but it will make it harder to come back. Ghost training is all about coming back after taking a break. It's like a "Welcome Back!" present.

Nice move CCP.

You guys make me sick, you're all getting upset that you have to actually pay CCP for skill training?

Eve isn't a F2p game get over it.

First you guys complain about ambulation, then complain CCP is putting to much focus on pve, then compain about certificates cause you don't want new players to have it easier, now you bitch cause you can't train your ten accounts for free.

its pathetic.

Edit: for some reason at work i tossed blizzards name in this post instead of CCPs. sorry about that

The thing here is that, this has been a feature since the game launched, and now it's suddenly a "bug" and going to get removed, something is just not right here. I won't quite because of this, but when i take breaks i'll probably have less to look forward to, since now long skills wont be finished.

Originally posted by Inhibitor

Originally posted by DoomsDay01

Please show me where it says in any manual that ccp has written that states learning skills while your not paying for the account is within the game design.

 

Hey DoomsDay01...notice the fact that this is on the official EVE Online website...scroll down to "How To Train Skills", and read the first sentence under the "some skills can't be trained on trial accounts" graphic.

That's what "inactive" means.

ok, I normaly don't do this but: PWNT!!

carry on