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10/13/08 9:46:37 AM#21
Originally posted by Tyvolus Not only do I think he is serious, I happen to agree with him. I second that. Too many people complaining here shouldn't even be playing the genre. |
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10/13/08 9:56:48 AM#22
Originally posted by Opticaleye Well you know what i think is funny? Your defensive behavior.Its a fricking game get a life.I could care less if mmo companies shutdown but it certainly wont be over 1 MAN' S opinion.But apparently you believe this is possible. Actually it was you who said the game was losing customers. Strange that you remind him that its a game and he ought to get a life, when it was you who was here whining. He was making light comedy of your whine. As I am making light comedy of your hypocracy. What is really funny is how you just jumped all over me for expressing an opinion you dont like.Such a fanboi. So you jump back. Mature. Not really sure where the FPS thing came from as i didnt express an opinion in that subject matter.Well if i was to express an opinion of a game and it sold well because of that i suppose that would make me a lot of cash right? WARHAMMER is an average game at best the PvP has no real consequence to speak of you die and your stats are reduced go get healed blah blah blah.How about an armor drop?Or some coins?A drop in your level?Armor damaged beyond repair? A really original idea would be for ANY pvp oriented game is to have a permadeath server. See: Trials of Ascension. Vapourware. Not a popular concept. Sorry but IMHO i believe WARHAMMER is an average game not worthy of 15 dollars a month.Now that being said as soon as i post this im quite sure that most of the executives at EA will be on alert. Gosh maybe if i head over to the AOC forums and express how much more i liked that game over this 1 FUNCOM will get GOTY!!!! It is amazing how 1 MAN'S opinion can control a whole industry. Did you read his comment? He said YOU are the one who thinks this. Obviously you don't, but if not then why the initial post?
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10/13/08 11:17:51 AM#23
This site is full of jaded, "know-it-all", trolls that think their opinion is fact. It's the main reason I never post here but, this errked me a bit.
Launch - I have been in every "AAA" beta and launch since SWG. WAR by far has had the best launch to date. I have had zero DCs, zero CTD, zero lag. Gold is not an issues, inventory space is not an issue, no game breaking bugs like most MMOs start with.
Balance - It's very good. Anyone crying about bright wizards needs to take some leasons on PvP. All that cry just get pwned and, want to cry about it in forums.
Gameplay - Each class is unique and has a different set on mechanics. Tactics, Renown, and Career skills keep you busy too.
Features - There is more going on in WAR at launch than any other MMO EVERY! Hate EA all you want. They got the money, the resources and the drive to make WAR #1. Hell, 750,000 accounts active in less than one month. I bet we hit 1,500,000 by Dec 26th.
Can't find a group? Join a guild. Every "problem" has a solution. If you don't like the game. Go. This game hasn't even come to life yet though. Wait till the masses have level 40s and city raids become common place.
I think many complainers went into the game with the intention to complain. They don't want to like the game. They like to bitch and moan. They are in every MMO forum and, I am sure they are the same mob of whiney children.
I can honestly say that this MMO is the most fun I have had since the early days on SWG.
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10/13/08 11:41:47 AM#24
If you don't want to read 'whining' posts, then it is YOU who are in the wrong place. Everyone has their opinion on the game, and everyone it entitled to post it: and seeing as it is a forum specifically for WAR, they are in EXACTLY the right place to do it. If you don't want to listen to people bashing the game, then maybe it is you who should not come here. Most people who come here have a genuine reason as to why they are disappointed with the game (myself included). If you like the game then more power to you, but don't tell people they can't or should not have their opinion.
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Hazmal
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10/13/08 12:01:16 PM#25
Originally posted by EvolvedMonky
FO3? Hell no that game looks retarded. The original Fallouts are my #1 computer Rpgs. Everything Ive heard on it and all the videos Ive seen makes FO3 look like a water down knock off of Deus EX. Its a FPS with a fallout Mod. And im glad ur leaving this genre no one wanted you. Specialy with your gullable nature. Only kids and fools fall for hype. And you fell for FO3.
I would say I'm surprised at the amount of attacks on a person's opinion of a game, but it is commonplace here. The crusaders of one opinion will burn you at the stake for not liking their precious game. Apparently a not-so-evolved monkey, flex da internetz muscles elsewhere. I like WAR so far, but attitudes like this that make it in-game are slowly destroying it. Judging by the caps lock cruising going on in scenarios telling people they are nubs; it will likely be getting worse on non-RP servers. ------------------ well i'm 35 and have a PhD in science, and then 10 years experience in bioinformatics... you? |
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10/13/08 12:04:45 PM#26
Originally posted by Raserei
Thank you for making it really clear that only YOUR opinion counts!
I found WAR to be boring... had to force myself to play the beta and test it for bugs... never really go into it. |
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10/13/08 12:15:31 PM#27
I play on 4 of the highest servers. LOL a where is all this WONDERFUL RVR going on? Scenarios are where people are at. Go take a walk through ANY RVR/zone ANY t1-t4 EMPTY. Dont take my word for it go log on now.. or 3pm,6pm,9pm you pick the time.. EMPTY lol |
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10/13/08 12:16:06 PM#28
Originally posted by Darcknyght
Then apperantly you haven't been playing the same WAR that the rest of the people have been playing because this game is a SCENERIO GRINDFEST 24/7
SCENARIO GRINDFEST? lol.
Scenarios are fun. It's a blast and a half playing in a group against another group. It's hella fun putting together a war band cruising through the PQs. It can be tough getting a good group for the open RvR zones but well worth the work/wait to put em together. The time I log in dictates what experience I'll have. Between 4-8pm is when I find the best groups for RvR/PQs. Things start to taper off after 9pm and I have to do more PvE. Admitedly i'm only lvl 13. However, I haven't felt 'forced' to do the same action over and over again. I have felt INCLINED to do the senarios repeatedly because they're fun. I have felt INCLINED to the PQs repeatedly because they're fun. The few PQs that weren't fun I didn't do more than once. The few time when I'm getting my ass handed to me in senarios, I stop and go do something else. Then point I'm trying to make is that no one is being 'forced' to grind for anything. They either do scenarios because they're fun or because they THINK they have to. Either way I think it's more of an issue with the players rather than bad game design.
Just my .02 |
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10/13/08 12:19:47 PM#29
Level 13, wow. You've really experienced all this game has to offer by level 13! |
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10/13/08 6:08:58 PM#30
Originally posted by Tawn47 Well you know what i think is funny? Your defensive behavior.Its a fricking game get a life.I could care less if mmo companies shutdown but it certainly wont be over 1 MAN' S opinion.But apparently you believe this is possible. Actually it was you who said the game was losing customers. Strange that you remind him that its a game and he ought to get a life, when it was you who was here whining. He was making light comedy of your whine. As I am making light comedy of your hypocracy. What is really funny is how you just jumped all over me for expressing an opinion you dont like.Such a fanboi. So you jump back. Mature. Not really sure where the FPS thing came from as i didnt express an opinion in that subject matter.Well if i was to express an opinion of a game and it sold well because of that i suppose that would make me a lot of cash right? WARHAMMER is an average game at best the PvP has no real consequence to speak of you die and your stats are reduced go get healed blah blah blah.How about an armor drop?Or some coins?A drop in your level?Armor damaged beyond repair? A really original idea would be for ANY pvp oriented game is to have a permadeath server. See: Trials of Ascension. Vapourware. Not a popular concept. Sorry but IMHO i believe WARHAMMER is an average game not worthy of 15 dollars a month.Now that being said as soon as i post this im quite sure that most of the executives at EA will be on alert. Gosh maybe if i head over to the AOC forums and express how much more i liked that game over this 1 FUNCOM will get GOTY!!!! It is amazing how 1 MAN'S opinion can control a whole industry. Did you read his comment? He said YOU are the one who thinks this. Obviously you don't, but if not then why the initial post?
Ok you win and im so completley wrong and my opinion obviously doesnt count because i pointed out the obvious:WARHAMMER is a average game at best.It has done NOTHING NEW outside of PQ's and guess what?Nobody is interested in doing those at all. I was holding back but here it goes:AoC has/will a superior PvP system with real risk and reward. So whatever flameon ill save the problem of responding later with what you WANT to hear: You were so much more right than i was WARHAMMER is a superior game to anything that has come out or will ever be produced in the future.I apologize for offending you or EA/MYTHIC for such a fantastic and glorious piece of software.Clearly i didnt know what i was talking about and i would be a fool for not paying 14.99 a month for such grand entertainment.
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10/13/08 9:17:44 PM#31
Originally posted by Darcknyght
Then apperantly you haven't been playing the same WAR that the rest of the people have been playing because this game is a SCENERIO GRINDFEST 24/7
If your server sucks, try doing something about it? On Ulthuan Order-side, even outnumbered, pretty much all the medium-large guilds are working together. Forming alliances, and even communicating with other guilds outside alliances to let them know what is going on. We even struck first against the Horde city - hundreds of us attacking the Maw. I will say that was a bit of a lagfest, and could do with some tweaking in that respect (and tweaking guard respawn as well as the choke points a bit). However it's early yet and based on my next example, I'm confident the game engine can handle it. Example being - which was actually very smooth and had little lag - about 100-200 Order held Avelorn and Saphery keeps in tier 3 Saturday night (actually large scale RvR every night over the weekend - that is just the one I went to, as scheduled by our guild alliance). We battled for 5 straight hours and Destruction could not take either keep.....they got close once in Avelorn, but we pushed them back from the Keep Lord.....until sometime after 2:30am when most of us went to bed lol. The one thing they need to change, while I hope more Order continue to roll on Ulthuan, is how the "bar moves" among the zone. It seems like because there are more Destruction, they get more credit when they take a zone or something. In terms of the XP/Renown in RvR......my screen was a constant scroll of both all night. By the time the night was done, my RR bar was capped and I had to do just a couple quests to get the next level, so I could start off fresh the next day. Definitely more XP from quests I've seen throughout in T3 and T4 though I have to agree with that. |
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10/13/08 9:23:47 PM#32
Originally posted by Opticaleye
Ok you win and im so completley wrong and my opinion obviously doesnt count because i pointed out the obvious:WARHAMMER is a average game at best.It has done NOTHING NEW outside of PQ's and guess what?Nobody is interested in doing those at all. I was holding back but here it goes:AoC has/will a superior PvP system with real risk and reward. So whatever flameon ill save the problem of responding later with what you WANT to hear: You were so much more right than i was WARHAMMER is a superior game to anything that has come out or will ever be produced in the future.I apologize for offending you or EA/MYTHIC for such a fantastic and glorious piece of software.Clearly i didnt know what i was talking about and i would be a fool for not paying 14.99 a month for such grand entertainment.
You should have known better then to give your honest opinion that wasnt good abotu an average game to a bunch fo fanboys. By now you should know how they get. Read any of manchines posts if you want further examples of total fanboyism |
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10/13/08 9:31:48 PM#33
Originally posted by Steelguru
If your server sucks, try doing something about it? On Ulthuan Order-side, even outnumbered, pretty much all the medium-large guilds are working together. Forming alliances, and even communicating with other guilds outside alliances to let them know what is going on. We even struck first against the Horde city - hundreds of us attacking the Maw. I will say that was a bit of a lagfest, and could do with some tweaking in that respect (and tweaking guard respawn as well as the choke points a bit). However it's early yet and based on my next example, I'm confident the game engine can handle it. Example being - which was actually very smooth and had little lag - about 100-200 Order held Avelorn and Saphery keeps in tier 3 Saturday night (actually large scale RvR every night over the weekend - that is just the one I went to, as scheduled by our guild alliance). We battled for 5 straight hours and Destruction could not take either keep.....they got close once in Avelorn, but we pushed them back from the Keep Lord.....until sometime after 2:30am when most of us went to bed lol. The one thing they need to change, while I hope more Order continue to roll on Ulthuan, is how the "bar moves" among the zone. It seems like because there are more Destruction, they get more credit when they take a zone or something. In terms of the XP/Renown in RvR......my screen was a constant scroll of both all night. By the time the night was done, my RR bar was capped and I had to do just a couple quests to get the next level, so I could start off fresh the next day. Definitely more XP from quests I've seen throughout in T3 and T4 though I have to agree with that.
Its all just a Zerg fest, no skill, no team work, everyone is selfish. The lag makes it unbearable at times. It's definately a scenerio grinder and for all the above reasons makes this game a huge let down. It's not was they hyped it up to be... There is a good basis to the game but the implementation is messed up and not worth anyones time after a month in my opinon. wait it out a while. |
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10/13/08 9:34:31 PM#34
Originally posted by tikovoo
If your server sucks, try doing something about it? On Ulthuan Order-side, even outnumbered, pretty much all the medium-large guilds are working together. Forming alliances, and even communicating with other guilds outside alliances to let them know what is going on. We even struck first against the Horde city - hundreds of us attacking the Maw. I will say that was a bit of a lagfest, and could do with some tweaking in that respect (and tweaking guard respawn as well as the choke points a bit). However it's early yet and based on my next example, I'm confident the game engine can handle it. Example being - which was actually very smooth and had little lag - about 100-200 Order held Avelorn and Saphery keeps in tier 3 Saturday night (actually large scale RvR every night over the weekend - that is just the one I went to, as scheduled by our guild alliance). We battled for 5 straight hours and Destruction could not take either keep.....they got close once in Avelorn, but we pushed them back from the Keep Lord.....until sometime after 2:30am when most of us went to bed lol. The one thing they need to change, while I hope more Order continue to roll on Ulthuan, is how the "bar moves" among the zone. It seems like because there are more Destruction, they get more credit when they take a zone or something. In terms of the XP/Renown in RvR......my screen was a constant scroll of both all night. By the time the night was done, my RR bar was capped and I had to do just a couple quests to get the next level, so I could start off fresh the next day. Definitely more XP from quests I've seen throughout in T3 and T4 though I have to agree with that.
Its all just a Zerg fest, no skill, no team work, everyone is selfish. The lag makes it unbearable at times. It's definately a scenerio grinder and for all the above reasons makes this game a huge let down. It's not was they hyped it up to be... There is a good basis to the game but the implementation is messed up and not worth anyones time after a month in my opinon. wait it out a while. This is why I quit playing warhammer when my time ran out today
Currently playing:wow/war Retired:,runescape,swg, |
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10/13/08 9:48:00 PM#35
Originally posted by EliteMarine
Its all just a Zerg fest, no skill, no team work, everyone is selfish. The lag makes it unbearable at times. It's definately a scenerio grinder and for all the above reasons makes this game a huge let down. It's not was they hyped it up to be... There is a good basis to the game but the implementation is messed up and not worth anyones time after a month in my opinon. wait it out a while. This is why I quit playing warhammer when my time ran out today
same here I had a feeling this game wouldnt be good since its mechanics are already geared towards kids with no skill, but I gave it a shot, wow was this game horrible. I suggest anybody thinking of getting ti to stay far away |
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10/13/08 10:22:47 PM#36
The thing that's killing me is how my server is "High" population but I never seem to see anybody around. That on top of nobody ever talking makes the world feel pretty empty. If I'm going to play a single player game there are more fun ones on the market. |
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10/14/08 1:18:57 AM#37
It IS just about grinding scenarios 24/7. Are you even in T3 yet? Scenarios give the most XP/hour and the most renown by FAR. Oh, and they stink at the same time. I couldn't even make it past level 25 before giving up. - - - |
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10/14/08 1:44:03 AM#38
Originally posted by Amafi
No m8 - unfortuntely mmorpg has a reputation for being the placewhiners come to whine and most fo the actual fands and players of the game in question pst of specific forums for that game. If people want to crcritiique a game and do so by making completely and utterly falso claims about the gameply in a style that is more about trying t oget other people to agree (and like them) or as some kind of therapy for themselves, they can occassionaly expect a few of the people that know how to and do actually play the game to try and put the record straight. You can be genuinekly disappointed - but 995 of peope that are are actually not playing the game correctly or dont have the social skills neccessary to play a mmog successfully especially one a few weeks from launch when the environment is very different to that months down the line.
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10/14/08 1:49:06 AM#39
Originally posted by Tawn47 Not only do I think he is serious, I happen to agree with him. I second that. Too many people complaining here shouldn't even be playing the genre. Must we explain to you fools over and over again what a "Massively Mutli-player Online Game" is? Because I don't think you're getting it at all. WoW must have been your first MMOs; it's painfully apparent. |
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10/14/08 6:14:17 PM#40
Hey Hey
I was actully impressed with WH for the first week or so, it was new and a bit diffrent form some of my previous mmo games. <my only other reall PvP mmo experiance is EvE > However I have found that people sit in the area right out side of RVR zones , to go threw the instanced PvP and then turn in the kill/completed quest. Witch is well disapointing.
So i figured maybe it was becouse i was lvling a bit to fast. saw all of these quest icons , however was similalry disapointed. I enjoy quests that well are hard , and feel as if you have accomplished something, for the most part i was disapointed. Sure there are tons of quest but when 95% are kill 10 rats <somethng they promised not to do> I just decided to not re-sub after trial.
This game has alot of potential, however i belive they chased the big sub numbers, something they have every right to do, but in doing so they geared the game to be OK in all areas instead of being wonderfull in one area.
Honestly they should make RvR the best way to lvl/gear up. Such potentiall such a waste. I was hyped/promised a RvR game, instead i was givin wow2.0
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