Now I consider myself a mature gamer who is fair when reviewing a game and I certainly don't bash for no reason.  However seeing a user rating of 8.87 for WAR it really makes me mad as its so unrealistic and either we have a bunch of gamers who have only played one MMO aka WOW or they are desperately trying to attract more people by blatantly lying about the quality of the game.  RATINGS AS FOLLOWS:

USER RATING                   MY RATING

GRAPHICS   - 8.7                               My Rating - 7

Considering the game has graphics that is not up to date, not bad but certainly not 8.7!  Initially it was the key let down for me.

FUN  - 9.4                                My Rating - 7

Ok who am I to say if people think the game is fun or but 9.4 Are you freaking kidding me?  Is this seriously the most fun in an MMO that you have ever had?  GET OUT MORE!  

SOUND - 8.8                            My Rating - 4

8.8 for sound?  Ok now this rating has donkey crap all over it.  The sound in WAR is borderline pathetic compared to most MMO's out there.  AoC has movie quality ambience, EVE even Tabula Rasa crap all over WAR.  All I seem to hear are dull drums going off and an odd screech.  8.8 rating? I must be playing a different game.

COMMUNITY - 8.6                    My Rating - 4

Community may differ on each server but this game has the worst community I have ever come across.  Is it the players fault? No. Its the set up of the game.  There is no default global chat and unless you are in a guild there is no way of knowing what the hell is going on.  Met some nice people but the game does not have an overall community feel.

ROLE PLAYING - 8.5                My Rating - 2

Now this is funny.  Role Playing 8.5?  Based on a 1000 votes as well.  Come one people are you seriously giving this game 8.5 for RP? 

PERFORMANCE / LAG - 8.8    My Rating - 7

I give this game 7 which is pretty good for a new release but once again 8.8 is so overinflated its funny.  What about the lag? The 60 second lock ups? The graphic glitches? The reboots? 

VALUE - 9.2                            My Rating 7

If WAR was free then I would give it 9.2 but unless you have mummy and dadddy paying for the sub then there is no way in hell this game gets 9.2 Value rating.  If this was true I would cancel my 2 EVE subs and my AoC sub because I am yet to see a game get close to 9! 

SERVICE - 8.8                         My Rating - 6

I have not needed to contact service in-game yet but I give it a 6 purely for the pain of registering and trying to work out how to log in.  No instructions and for the first time I even had to call a mate to find out why it wasn't working.  He had spent 2 hours working it out as well.

Is this a WAR bash thread?  Not really but the concept of WAR having 8.87 rating is laughable and anyone that voted stupidly should be tied at a stake and have tomatoes thrown at them. 

For the record I played table top Warhammer for almost 15 years so if there ever was a fan I should have been it.  Unfortunately they have gone to the mass market and dumbed down the game...IMO

Even 7 for graphic is too much. I would give max 4 for graphic. There are older mmo like war with superior graphic like LOTRO, Vanguard, AOC

So compared to them 4 for war graphic is more than appropriate

 Nop, 8.87 sounds about right I would give this game a 9 personally, YOU dont define the taste of a whole group of people if you dont like it fine, just dont tell me how I should like the game. have a nice day.

It's called an opinion.  You've got one and so does everyone else.  Yours is of no more or less value than theirs.

Personally taking other MMO's into consideration I'm giving it a 9 too out of 10.

The game delivers overall everything I've wanted - and WoW only delivered half of what I wanted. Only game to ever compete with MMO's in my lifetime was EQ which I played for 6 years. Everything comes to an end though and EQ did as well. WAR gives me what I've been wanting since I started playing WoW and felt something was lacking.

However that said I'm playing both. PvE in WoW and PvP in WAR. Both games offer a good diversity of what me as a user am after.

However I will dismiss one thing the OP says.

The graphics part and the fun factor is definently something you can not as a person comment more than your own personal preference which is of course what you're doing. But you are stating in the start of your post that you consider yourself mature and won't bash people. Hence keep the "Are you freaking kidding me? Is this seriously the most fun in an MMO that you have ever had? GET OUT MORE!?" attitude out.

I personally think the graphics far exceed other games. Hence again comparing to what the MMO market offer WAR delivers the best in my world.
Secondly the fun factor differs. I play WAR for PvP and yes as a matter of fact I have more fun than I have ever had in another MMO cause the PvP in WAR is precisely what I've been after.

I have had the most thrilling experience in EQ
I have had the most pleasurable time in WoW (social wise)
I have had the most fun in WAR (pvp wise)

And yes I sum games up like that cause they all add different aspects.

Lastly - no I don't have a mom and dad who pay for my sub as you also seem to incline most people do.

I'm engaged and working full-time. Hence no kid or close to being one.

Originally posted by chryses

FUN  - 9.4                                My Rating - 7

Ok who am I to say if people think the game is fun or but 9.4 Are you freaking kidding me?  Is this seriously the most fun in an MMO that you have ever had?  GET OUT MORE!  

 

lol, shouldn't it be STAY IN MORE!?

but like others have said, its opinion, maybe some one thinks its the greatest game ever made, and some one else thinks it suck.  its an average score of many votes, not just 1 persons opinion.  and remember people may feel the same way about you for your rating as you do abuot the games curent rating.

For me it is a solid 9.

If I were rating it on a bell curve within the genre I'd have to give it a 10 because I do consider it the best MMO out there, even with the glitches and (rapidly disappearing) flaws.

Everybody's entitled to their opinion though.

War has potential. That is all im going to say, probably. LOL

so basically "omg this game sucks and if any disagrees they are wrong and this site sucks for allowing people who disagree with me to voice thier opinion."

does that pretty much sum it up?

The thing is there were people who rated the game as you did, but others who like the games take on graphics etc rated it higher. Thats how ratings work, for the asshats giving all 10's there are an equal number of haters giving it 1's.

As for unbias ratings, in these situations thats pretty rare. Those motivated to review and rate a game have reasons for those motivations. No more obvious so than by reading the OP

Originally posted by mrw0lf

The thing is there were people who rated the game as you did, but others who like the games take on graphics etc rated it higher. Thats how ratings work, for the asshats giving all 10's there are an equal number of haters giving it 1's.

As for unbias ratings, in these situations thats pretty rare. Those motivated to review and rate a game have reasons for those motivations. No more obvious so than by reading the OP

I agree for the most part.  But, I still believe that many people will rate a game based on the general opinion.  I bet you that there are posters that saw how much people are liking war and decided to give it a rating despite even playing the game.

War, for the most part, has a very positive rating so far.  I think people want to be a part of that atmosphere.

War is one of the most polished MMOs to release ever.  It has huge amount of features - huge amounts of features that can be added and improved.  It has everything needed for a game of millions playing. 

At the same time - WOW is now showing obvious shortcomings and ppl are getting bored killing the same dragons at lvl 15 and 75.   WOTLK is nothing new - WAR is somehting new that will continue to grow and improve.

Lastly - about WAR graphics.  They will improve.  But saying they are bad is just wrong.  I am a dia hard WAR table top player and Mythic has done so well catching the feel of the characters and the monsters in the game that its really beyond belive. 

You wont find any game out atm that has brighter future than WAR has atm.  That doesn't mean the game is perfect.  But it has everything needed to make a great game for long long time.  Thats what MMOs are about.

You'll also have to argue with all the reviews too, which say WAR is the most polished MMO ever at release.

I take ratings on this site with a grain of salt. You have those who either love a game or hate it around here for the most part. There isn't much in being objective or a gray area. Heck, there are those with more than one account merely to up the ratings on their particular game which just boggles my mind. So I would just advise glancing at the ratings, get a bit of a laugh and move on.

Originally posted by Frobner

War is one of the most polished MMOs to release ever.  It has huge amount of features - huge amounts of features that can be added and improved.  It has everything needed for a game of millions playing. 

At the same time - WOW is now showing obvious shortcomings and ppl are getting bored killing the same dragons at lvl 15 and 75.   WOTLK is nothing new - WAR is somehting new that will continue to grow and improve.

Lastly - about WAR graphics.  They will improve.  But saying they are bad is just wrong.  I am a dia hard WAR table top player and Mythic has done so well catching the feel of the characters and the monsters in the game that its really beyond belive. 

You wont find any game out atm that has brighter future than WAR has atm.  That doesn't mean the game is perfect.  But it has everything needed to make a great game for long long time.  Thats what MMOs are about.

Lol, what? Wotlk is an *expansion*. It *is* WoW growing and improving. New class, knockback and pull mechnisms being introduced into combat, multi person mounts, siege warfare both land and mount.

For an *expansion* that's pretty good and that's still ignoring all the content it delivers. Is it in any way as new/different as an entirely new MMO? ... Well doh, of course not, it's an expansion to an existing game, not an entirely new game alltogether. The fact that you're actually comparing it a new game release already shows how much value the expansion in itself has .

There's also nowhere WAR can go that WOW can't go right now or else I'd certainly be interested in hearing what edge WAR has. Basically WoW could add anything WAR adds if they wanted.

Originally posted by TheHavok

Originally posted by mrw0lf

The thing is there were people who rated the game as you did, but others who like the games take on graphics etc rated it higher. Thats how ratings work, for the asshats giving all 10's there are an equal number of haters giving it 1's.

As for unbias ratings, in these situations thats pretty rare. Those motivated to review and rate a game have reasons for those motivations. No more obvious so than by reading the OP

 

I agree for the most part.  But, I still believe that many people will rate a game based on the general opinion.  I bet you that there are posters that saw how much people are liking war and decided to give it a rating despite even playing the game.

War, for the most part, has a very positive rating so far.  I think people want to be a part of that atmosphere.

I understand what you are saying but, I would say it's far more likely that people see a half decent rating and go out of their way to hate on it, despite not having played the game.

Ratings by their very nature require comparison, lets face it espescially on these forums where most are jaded gamers who long for a game which matches their original experience which is so deeply rooted in nostagia and imagination that it never existed in the first place, how is any game going to match that.

Originally posted by mrw0lf

 

I understand what you are saying but, I would say it's far more likely that people see a half decent rating and go out of their way to hate on it, despite not having played the game.

Ratings by their very nature require comparison, lets face it espescially on these forums where most are jaded gamers who long for a game which matches their original experience which is so deeply rooted in nostagia and imagination that it never existed in the first place, how is any game going to match that.

 

bribery?  I will like almost any game, and say its the best for cold hard cash!!

i do agree though, i am one of those still stuck in the glory days of UO, even though i could never go back to it, and have such a huge list of things i want that they will never be met in my life time that i have all but damned myself to unhappiness with MMOs.   I have been enjoying WAR though, and once i get home to a decent conection i am sure i will enjoy it even more.

Yeah, I would give this game a 9 as well.  I put Vanguard on the back burner for this one.  Sure Vanguard is a wide open world, but sadly there's NOTHING TO DO IN IT!  I mean, if you're into 5+ hour raids in APW, then sure, knock yourself out.  Or if you prefer the dreadful, mind numbing crafting and diplomacy (I'm sorry, I know it's innovative and probably the best crafting system out there, but the grind is also probably the worst I've ever sat through), then go for it.  But there's not much for the casual player nor is there anything that the players can do that really affects the world other than the diplo buffs.

In Warhammer, everything is related to conflict with the other side and is geared towards that.  I can sit down, log in for 30 to 40 minutes and get stuff done and have fun doing it.  It's not as in depth as Vanguard, but at least I feel like I'm contributing something and have a purpose.  This is besides the fact that the game has some of the best ingame guild tools I've ever seen.  Anyways, to each their own I guess.

Originally posted by Pheace

Originally posted by Frobner

War is one of the most polished MMOs to release ever.  It has huge amount of features - huge amounts of features that can be added and improved.  It has everything needed for a game of millions playing. 

At the same time - WOW is now showing obvious shortcomings and ppl are getting bored killing the same dragons at lvl 15 and 75.   WOTLK is nothing new - WAR is somehting new that will continue to grow and improve.

Lastly - about WAR graphics.  They will improve.  But saying they are bad is just wrong.  I am a dia hard WAR table top player and Mythic has done so well catching the feel of the characters and the monsters in the game that its really beyond belive. 

You wont find any game out atm that has brighter future than WAR has atm.  That doesn't mean the game is perfect.  But it has everything needed to make a great game for long long time.  Thats what MMOs are about.

 

Lol, what? Wotlk is an *expansion*. It *is* WoW growing and improving. New class, knockback and pull mechnisms being introduced into combat, multi person mounts, siege warfare both land and mount.

 

For an *expansion* that's pretty good and that's still ignoring all the content it delivers. Is it in any way as new/different as an entirely new MMO? ... Well doh, of course not, it's an expansion to an existing game, not an entirely new game alltogether. The fact that you're actually comparing it a new game release already shows how much value the expansion in itself has .

 

There's also nowhere WAR can go that WOW can't go right now or else I'd certainly be interested in hearing what edge WAR has. Basically WoW could add anything WAR adds if they wanted.

LOL, yeah, one class in the expansion, on top of more grinding BS.  I hope you have fun being one DK in a sea of them.  Because hey!, when everyone is special......no one is, right?  WAR is what WOW should have been, period.
 

another rating topic?

geez, why ppl bother with this rating. you like it (like i do - i give it 9/10, first mmo to stay with for a longer time since anarchy online), you dont like it - go play lotro, wow, eq or eve. gl hf thx bye!