Originally posted by someforumguy

Originally posted by Force_Fire

Originally posted by someforumguy

IF Bioware's MMO will be about SW, chances are that itll be storydriven with character advancing through quests. A sandbox MMO will be highly unlikely. Just look at the games they made.

Also for the people who say 2009. Dream on. How many MMO's did release within a year after the announcement?

The predictions in this thread are based on nothing. Next time use the word hope instead of prediction please.

 

Hope or Prediction, it doesn't really matter.

The game has already been made. The Mechanics have already been decided upon. There is nothing you, I, or anyone else can do about it. I dare say Lucas himself could not change the course of the game at this point in development. This project has been underway since 2005 and when they make the "Official Announcment" on the 21st, you will be seeing all the decisions that were made years ago.

So it matters not what we think here. Yes it is fun to think about what could be. Yes it is fun to hope and pray the Pre-CU fairy sprinkles magic Bacta Dust into the cereal bowls of the DEVS each morning. But, lets face it, what ever we get it was decided A LONG TIME AGO IN A GALAXY FAR FAR AWAY....

 

I dont expect anything lol, thats why I used 'IF' . I only know that Bioware+Lucasarts are making something. and wanted to point out that it is highly unlikely that the new game will be anything like PreCU SWG. Or that it will be released soon. If its even about SW.

2.5-3years is nothing in MMO land. Some MMO's have a preproduction period of a couple of years. I usually add +6months to any estimated release. So if they will say 2009, I wont expect it before june 2010.

We do know it is STAR WARS (The Old Republic) and I think we will see a brief overview of some of the Key Features of the game, along with a few Alpha quality Screenshots. I also agree we will see it in 2010 or 2011...not before.

Originally posted by Force_Fire

Originally posted by someforumguy

Originally posted by Force_Fire

Originally posted by someforumguy

IF Bioware's MMO will be about SW, chances are that itll be storydriven with character advancing through quests. A sandbox MMO will be highly unlikely. Just look at the games they made.

Also for the people who say 2009. Dream on. How many MMO's did release within a year after the announcement?

The predictions in this thread are based on nothing. Next time use the word hope instead of prediction please.

 

Hope or Prediction, it doesn't really matter.

The game has already been made. The Mechanics have already been decided upon. There is nothing you, I, or anyone else can do about it. I dare say Lucas himself could not change the course of the game at this point in development. This project has been underway since 2005 and when they make the "Official Announcment" on the 21st, you will be seeing all the decisions that were made years ago.

So it matters not what we think here. Yes it is fun to think about what could be. Yes it is fun to hope and pray the Pre-CU fairy sprinkles magic Bacta Dust into the cereal bowls of the DEVS each morning. But, lets face it, what ever we get it was decided A LONG TIME AGO IN A GALAXY FAR FAR AWAY....

 

I dont expect anything lol, thats why I used 'IF' . I only know that Bioware+Lucasarts are making something. and wanted to point out that it is highly unlikely that the new game will be anything like PreCU SWG. Or that it will be released soon. If its even about SW.

2.5-3years is nothing in MMO land. Some MMO's have a preproduction period of a couple of years. I usually add +6months to any estimated release. So if they will say 2009, I wont expect it before june 2010.

 

We do know it is STAR WARS (The Old Republic) and I think we will see a brief overview of some of the Key Features of the game, along with a few Alpha quality Screenshots. I also agree we will see it in 2010 or 2011...not before.

Hell!....a lot can happen between now and then!

Originally posted by RANGER_BATT

Originally posted by Force_Fire

Originally posted by someforumguy

Originally posted by Force_Fire

Originally posted by someforumguy

IF Bioware's MMO will be about SW, chances are that itll be storydriven with character advancing through quests. A sandbox MMO will be highly unlikely. Just look at the games they made.

Also for the people who say 2009. Dream on. How many MMO's did release within a year after the announcement?

The predictions in this thread are based on nothing. Next time use the word hope instead of prediction please.

 

Hope or Prediction, it doesn't really matter.

The game has already been made. The Mechanics have already been decided upon. There is nothing you, I, or anyone else can do about it. I dare say Lucas himself could not change the course of the game at this point in development. This project has been underway since 2005 and when they make the "Official Announcment" on the 21st, you will be seeing all the decisions that were made years ago.

So it matters not what we think here. Yes it is fun to think about what could be. Yes it is fun to hope and pray the Pre-CU fairy sprinkles magic Bacta Dust into the cereal bowls of the DEVS each morning. But, lets face it, what ever we get it was decided A LONG TIME AGO IN A GALAXY FAR FAR AWAY....

 

I dont expect anything lol, thats why I used 'IF' . I only know that Bioware+Lucasarts are making something. and wanted to point out that it is highly unlikely that the new game will be anything like PreCU SWG. Or that it will be released soon. If its even about SW.

2.5-3years is nothing in MMO land. Some MMO's have a preproduction period of a couple of years. I usually add +6months to any estimated release. So if they will say 2009, I wont expect it before june 2010.

 

We do know it is STAR WARS (The Old Republic) and I think we will see a brief overview of some of the Key Features of the game, along with a few Alpha quality Screenshots. I also agree we will see it in 2010 or 2011...not before.

 

Hell!....a lot can happen between now and then!

At this point, not too much. The core elements and ideas for how this game will be played are already in place. Sure, some things can change, but not the main game. What we see on the 21st, as far as the main concept of the game goes (WoW oriented or Pre-CU oriented), is what we are going to get. At least, that is what I think you are adressing.

I didn't know that Bioware did the very first KOTOR. So this new MMO should be pretty damn good.

The Chronicles of Spellborn is using the new unreal engine, I kinda hope the engine they are going to be using is pretty close to what they used for The Force Unleashed.

This game is suppossed to be out in late 2009.

Once this does come out, so long SWG for good.

Well the writing is on the wall for SWG, it is just a matter of time. Allowing Bioware to make a Star Wars based mmo just proves that. This will allow LA and SMed to wash their hands of the mess they created thanks to the NGE. Thugh I highly doubt this will be a sandbox but this time around they will do things alot better.

Originally posted by SaintViktor

Well the writing is on the wall for SWG, it is just a matter of time. Allowing Bioware to make a Star Wars based mmo just proves that. This will allow LA and SMed to wash their hands of the mess they created thanks to the NGE. Thugh I highly doubt this will be a sandbox but this time around they will do things alot better.

WHAAAA??? THe f, a lot better, nahhh, it will be very much unl8ike swg pre-cu, most likely a lot of running around killing people, with no real house, city, crafting, profession development, i think it is gonna be an online killing spreee, no r/p, no real; pre-cu stuff like everyone wishes, no lightsabre building, and group hunts like with the rancors and shit....gonna be nothing...ABSOLUTELY NOTHING LIKE PRE-CU SWG.

Originally posted by boognish75

Originally posted by SaintViktor

Well the writing is on the wall for SWG, it is just a matter of time. Allowing Bioware to make a Star Wars based mmo just proves that. This will allow LA and SMed to wash their hands of the mess they created thanks to the NGE. Thugh I highly doubt this will be a sandbox but this time around they will do things alot better.

 

WHAAAA??? THe f, a lot better, nahhh, it will be very much unl8ike swg pre-cu, most likely a lot of running around killing people, with no real house, city, crafting, profession development, i think it is gonna be an online killing spreee, no r/p, no real; pre-cu stuff like everyone wishes, no lightsabre building, and group hunts like with the rancors and shit....gonna be nothing...ABSOLUTELY NOTHING LIKE PRE-CU SWG.

No it's not going to be like pre-cu swg. Pretty much linear, story-based with levels with a persistent world I would expect.

my prediction will be on October 22nd (maybe the 23rd) the lead designer of SWG now (whoever the hell it is) will make a huge annoucement basically boiling down ot

omg guys we just consulted this new server guru and like omg we found out a way to bring Pre-nge servers up and running ... amazing huh? so anyone that wanted to play Pre-nge will be able to join one of these special servers.

we will of course be reactivating accounts in good standing so they can try out this amazing discovery!

Originally posted by Ravanos

my prediction will be on October 22nd (maybe the 23rd) the lead designer of SWG now (whoever the hell it is) will make a huge annoucement basically boiling down ot

omg guys we just consulted this new server guru and like omg we found out a way to bring Pre-nge servers up and running ... amazing huh? so anyone that wanted to play Pre-nge will be able to join one of these special servers.

we will of course be reactivating accounts in good standing so they can try out this amazing discovery!

Never gonna happen my friend. It's a real shame, cause this would be a chance for everyone to get what they want here. We get our game back and SOE gets 250K in subs back within 30 days...

Pride is an Expensive Sin

Even if this is a KOTOR MMO I can't see SWG being pulled because of it, at least not in the near future. It will stick around on life support as one of those station access games ...

One thing I do fear  ( if this is a KOTOR MMO ) that bioware stick with one of there trademark features, a feature that's been in the bulk of the games that they have developed (at least every game I've played) and thats the mid action pause button.

Originally posted by jinxit

Even if this is a KOTOR MMO I can't see SWG being pulled because of it, at least not in the near future. It will stick around on life support as one of those station access games ...

One thing I do fear  ( if this is a KOTOR MMO ) that bioware stick with one of there trademark features, a feature that's been in the bulk of the games that they have developed (at least every game I've played) and thats the mid action pause button.

Come on  Bro it a MMO, let think about it. That feature only works in Single Player games.

Try Mass Effect a great game and the combat is amazing...

One thing that will  make the game good will be Bioware great story telling and creative quest system...

I think this mmo could blow the industry away, anyone who's played kotor would probaly agree with the potential a kotor mmo has.

When you played kotor 1 and 2 i actually felt like i was in the star wars universe, from running around on dantooine to running through ancient sith temple's. If they are able to recreate this kind of feeling while adding the mmo aspect to it, the possibilities are almost endless, and from bioware's past track record i think they got what it takes to make a ground breaking and mabye one of the best mmo's yet.

It definetly wont be a question between wow like or precu, i highly doubt they are gonna tread along the lines of what's already out there, They are gonna try and give us something that hasnt been seen before.

I personally have really high hopes for this mmo, and there is a very good chance i wont be disappointed.

As for swg, it will most likely die once this comes out, half the people playing only play because they love starwars so much, but if they see a newer and better game come out they will most likely switch in a heart beat.

Originally posted by kitaz

I think this mmo could blow the industry away, anyone who's played kotor would probaly agree with the potential a kotor mmo has.

When you played kotor 1 and 2 i actually felt like i was in the star wars universe, from running around on dantooine to running through ancient sith temple's. If they are able to recreate this kind of feeling while adding the mmo aspect to it, the possibilities are almost endless, and from bioware's past track record i think they got what it takes to make a ground breaking and mabye one of the best mmo's yet.

It definetly wont be a question between wow like or precu, i highly doubt they are gonna tread along the lines of what's already out there, They are gonna try and give us something that hasnt been seen before.

I personally have really high hopes for this mmo, and there is a very good chance i wont be disappointed.

As for swg, it will most likely die once this comes out, half the people playing only play because they love starwars so much, but if they see a newer and better game come out they will most likely switch in a heart beat.

Why can't they make this game with all the fan favorite elements of WOW combined with all the best Sandbox elements of a Pre-CU SWG game?

Why can't they do that?

This game is being developed using the hero engine www.heroengine.com/

Taken from this website:

"At BioWare we selected HeroEngine because it had the most sophisticated and complete development tools available for building an amazing online experience. Our team wanted a great rapid prototyping environment and to work with experienced MMO developers. HeroEngine from Simutronics is a perfect fit for BioWare Austin's requirements."
Gordon Walton,
Co-Studio Director of BioWare Austin

Take a look at the hero engine website. The game can be made within 3 years with this engine. The game can be released within a year from now. Exactly for the christmas campaing. Damn it can even be finished already and what we are about to see is game going live within 2 months. This will be really revolutionary.

Edit: Take a look at the fast world design capability, yay! 3 years: www.heroengine.com/world.asp

it won't be the top mmo out there, but it should be fun if EA doesn't rush them..like they do everyone else.

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Originally posted by precuorbust
MIne:
Worst kept secret there is out there is that on 10/21 Bioware and LucasArts will announce a Star Wars MMO, which will most likely be based in the KOTOR era (5,000 years BBY).
They will announce this game, which will be based on a state of the art engine, and because it's already been in development for 3 years or so will be much closer to release than the typical MMO announcement.  I speculate 2009.
With this SWGNGE immediately becomes irrelevant.  Everyone except  Badgerbanger and a handful of hardcore Smed fanbois will leave the second the doors open.  With alpha and beta likely being very close at hand, this will come fast.
The NGE will end, finally, literally the day this new MMO opens.  If not before.  LEC won't want it competing with the new one, and frankly, SWG is such a liability it wouldn't be worth maintaining even if it were profitable, which I seriously doubt that it is.
I do believe that on 10/21 we wil finally know the day (or close to the day)  that the long NGE nightmare will come to an end.
 
 
 
 

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We hear this every day on this forum.

I don't believe SWG NGE will die, I think there will be an adjustment (argueably this depends on how good the new MMORP is and what SOE does about it) but it will still exist.

Just like EVERY game this forum PREDICTS will die, it wont.

There is always a first but SOE don't normally close down or turn off games.

Game death means different things to different folks. Some feel that losing over 200k players and struggling along on Station Pass Life support with 10k+ players defines game death. Some think that as long as the plug isn't actually pulled, no matter how low the population, the game is 'alive'.

SWG is nothing more than Station Pass filler not worthy of innovative and cutting edge development. Cut & paste content from other games (primarily WoW) is what is in store for SWG indefinitely, but since that is what the target audience wants, then it is a cost effective way of maintaining the game for the few that still play. That, and SWG provides training opportunities for noobling devs and college interns

I doubt LA sees SWG as any type of competition....the 10k+ subscription money that SWG earns is mere 'chump change' to what the LA/Bioware is looking at with the new mmo. I am also certain that these companies know that most of the players that remain on SWG will abandon the game in favor of a new, improved Star wars experience when it is available (be it Alpha/Beta testing or release). This doesn't mean that the plug will then be pulled on SWG, but I am sure there is an SWG player number that both $OE and LA agree on that will determine if and when the plug ffinally gets pulled.

If the new Bioware SW mmo is any good at all, SWG will completely fade away into old mmo game oblivion and only be remembered as the greatest, epic gaming blunder ever done on an existing mmo with over 250k players. $OE hasn't learned any lessons, but I am sure its competitors have.

My cynical side tells me that the game will be released in April of 2023.....

My prediction?:

Soon, very soon, maybe even in the coming weeks, SWG will announce that return of 'Classic servers' in a desperate attempt to add some kind of solidity to its player base as the MMO world becomes ever more interested in the new Bioware game and its launch.

I'd also like it on record that I first made this prediction two years ago.

Originally posted by Kazara

 

Game death means different things to different folks. Some feel that losing over 200k players and struggling along on Station Pass Life support with 10k+ players defines game death. Some think that as long as the plug isn't actually pulled, no matter how low the population, the game is 'alive'.

SWG is nothing more than Station Pass filler not worthy of innovative and cutting edge development. Cut & paste content from other games (primarily WoW) is what is in store for SWG indefinitely, but since that is what the target audience wants, then it is a cost effective way of maintaining the game for the few that still play. That, and SWG provides training opportunities for noobling devs and college interns

I doubt LA sees SWG as any type of competition....the 10k+ subscription money that SWG earns is mere 'chump change' to what the LA/Bioware is looking at with the new mmo. I am also certain that these companies know that most of the players that remain on SWG will abandon the game in favor of a new, improved Star wars experience when it is available (be it Alpha/Beta testing or release). This doesn't mean that the plug will then be pulled on SWG, but I am sure there is an SWG player number that both $OE and LA agree on that will determine if and when the plug ffinally gets pulled.

If the new Bioware SW mmo is any good at all, SWG will completely fade away into old mmo game oblivion and only be remembered as the greatest, epic gaming blunder ever done on an existing mmo with over 250k players. $OE hasn't learned any lessons, but I am sure its competitors have.

SWG is more or less already in the state of your last paragraph. Like you said though , SOE will end up cutting back servers and keep it on pass.