Till now i have found that only 2 things are infinite:
1) The Universe
2) Human Stupidity

Originally posted by //\\//\\oo

Metaphysics is really easy, but physics isn't. More theists should try the latter in my opinion.

 

WHAT? BLASPHEMY! Seminary school is really tough... honest. Lol.

The universe is not infinate.

Blessings,

He created the earth because he can. He created humans, because he can. He gave them freewill, because he can. Then humans decided to sin, because He gave them freewill. So now the purpose of the earth and all on it, is to await the second coming of His son, and for the believers to save as many as they can from eternal damnation.

Religion - because mankind really needed to make up a whole new way to justify torturing and killing eachother.

Originally posted by Sharajat

Religion - because mankind really needed to make up a whole new way to justify torturing and killing eachother.

Ah, Christianity is not torturing and killing each other. In fact, it is quite the opposite.

Blessings,

Originally posted by MarleVVLL

Originally posted by Sharajat

Religion - because mankind really needed to make up a whole new way to justify torturing and killing eachother.

 

Ah, Christianity is not torturing and killing each other. In fact, it is quite the opposite.

Blessings,

First he said "religion" not Christianity.

Second, Christians may not currently be trying to kill one another overtly but that is far far from the truth of history. Persecution & prejudice between the different Christian groups has been a driving force for thousands of years. 

As my signature says, people who call themselves Christians may say or do silly things, but the real Christianity is the following of the leadership of Christ. Torture is the opposite of Christian doctrine, as we are to take the torture gladly with much rejoicing, not administer it.

Blessings

as an agnostic, the answer to theis question 'What is the purpose of the earth and why did God create it?' doesnt matter to me, because I dont care if god exists or not. if he does then I dont even know if he cares what the purpose of earth is. Heaven and Hell seems least likely to exist in any situation. Since it has no proof...

So the purpose of the earth is mostly irrelevent...

The purpose of life is what you make it

I think you'd find yourself surprised if you searched for 'proof' concerning those things, although, it is interesting to read such a reply. You basically quoted the book of Ecclesiastes in your response, which I find massively interesting.

Blessings,

Originally posted by MarleVVLL

I think you'd find yourself surprised if you searched for 'proof' concerning those things, although, it is interesting to read such a reply. You basically quoted the book of Ecclesiastes in your response, which I find massively interesting.

Blessings,

theres proof of heaven and hell LOLOLLOLOLLLOL

you've been spoonfed by books of nonsense. books on magical religions aren't proof of anything.

I'll keep it quick, as this is derailing the topic.

Jeremiah prophecied the captivity of Israel in Babylon for 70 years. - Happened (prophesied in Jer 25, Daniel noticed it was soon to be accomplished [Dan 9] and came to pass during the days of Haggai and Zecharia/Ezra and Nehemiah if I remember right).

Amos prophecied the invasion of Assyria. - Happened

Daniel prophecied the rasing up of Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece (and it splitting up into four territories) and Rome. - Happened (Dan 8)

Jesus prophesied the destruction of the temple (and Jerusalem). - Happened (Mat 24, Mark 11, Luke 21)

There is too much, really..

Prophesied the Messiah would come from the House and Line of David (2 Sam 7)from the town of Bethlehem (Micah 5). . . leave Egypt (Hos 11) . . minister in Capernaum (Is 9). . . ride on a colt (Zech 9) . . . be wrongly accused, struck on the cheek with a rod (micah 5), silent during the whole ordeal and killed (Is 53, Ps 22, Zech 12, and more). . . being raised from the dead (Ps 16).

Sound familiar?

*Jesus...*

Blessings,

Originally posted by MarleVVLL

I'll keep it quick, as this is derailing the topic.

Jeremiah prophecied the captivity of Israel in Babylon for 70 years. - Happened (prophesied in Jer 25, Daniel noticed it was soon to be accomplished [Dan 9] and came to pass during the days of Haggai and Zecharia/Ezra and Nehemiah if I remember right).

Amos prophecied the invasion of Assyria. - Happened

Daniel prophecied the rasing up of Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece (and it splitting up into four territories) and Rome. - Happened (Dan 8)

Jesus prophesied the destruction of the temple (and Jerusalem). - Happened (Mat 24, Mark 11, Luke 21)

There is too much, really..

Prophesied the Messiah would come from the House and Line of David (2 Sam 7)from the town of Bethlehem (Micah 5). . . leave Egypt (Hos 11) . . minister in Capernaum (Is 9). . . ride on a colt (Zech 9) . . . be wrongly accused, struck on the cheek with a rod (micah 5), silent during the whole ordeal and killed (Is 53, Ps 22, Zech 12, and more). . . being raised from the dead (Ps 16).

Sound familiar?

*Jesus...*

Blessings,

The mayans predicted a lot of things that came true as well. and so did confucius and television mind readers. educated guesses are not prophesies. and books translated thousands of times, without an original publishing date are not to be whole-heartedly trusted. just look at adam and eve and evolution. anyways, the bible kept people in line thousands of years ago, now it's just an hassle. that and every other religulous book.

but my favorite thing about jesus, is reading about his time spent in the himalayas... he could have survived the crucifixtion (people took him down) and went on a soul search quest in those mountains.

jesusofeastandwest.blogspot.com/2008/07/this-is-9-minutes-rendition-of-one-hour.html

I would love someone to dig up possible graves of Jesus in Kashmir even if it is chasing rabbits. We could do a dna test at least, and I bet Jesus did have a proper burial wherever he died.

more on this:

www.thepost.com.pk/Previuos.aspx

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 talk about sheep.

the only reason most bash religion is because your politics say to. 

baaaahh

baaaahh

black sheep have you any wool.

Originally posted by bluberryhaze 

 

the only reason most bash religion is because your politics say to. 

Now there is an interesting statement....

How do you figure?

I've had some thoughts lately and I think it's safe to say that this physical universe is Gods dreams/magic trick. It's all an illusion , it's not eternal nor is it the truth so it cannot actually exist except that our egos , having the power they have can play an illusory trick on us into make believing the world , as well as our minds too of course.

Originally posted by Torak

Originally posted by bluberryhaze 

 

the only reason most bash religion is because your politics say to. 

 

Now there is an interesting statement....

How do you figure?

 

 

Don't feed the troll.

Originally posted by peaceandlove

I find it funny how everyone claims to be a "true christian".

You all believe in the same stupid book written for amusement and fell for it. Literally. It's all campfire stories, never proven to be true and people that are too stupid use it as a crutch to explain the unexplainable.

News flash, man, has done everything and more than what is told in the bible. All of the ignorant myths as to why things happen have already been explained by science and proven with physical evidence. I also am content with some things will never be explained in our lifetime. But I don't need a make-believe character to fill in that void to make me feel better about the things that I don't understand or ignorance.

Nothing in the bible impresses me.

You are controlled. Do as you are told or live forever in a fire pit. Yeah, go on, keep being sheep and send your deity some money on Sunday too while you're at it. Gas prices are high and your child molesting homosexual priest needs to fill his Cadillac's gas tank.

Religion holds back the intelligent people from advancing.

Obviously you don't know what Christianity is, since you seem to hold a TV/fundamentalist athiest view of it (do as you are told or live forever in the fire pit has nothing to do with what most if not all Christians believe). I suggest you learn a bit more than Sam Harris' view of Christianity.

Actually, religion is what made the west more advanced than the rest of the world. It was religion that brought forth the notion of a rational universe governed by laws, as well as the scientific method. It was religion taht brought about the notion that universal literacy was a good. It was religion that brought us the orimting press, and subsequently, an educated society.

True enough, many bad things can be laid at religion's doorstep -- but almost every good thing in our lives today came from religion as well.

Originally posted by Fishermage

Originally posted by peaceandlove

I find it funny how everyone claims to be a "true christian".

You all believe in the same stupid book written for amusement and fell for it. Literally. It's all campfire stories, never proven to be true and people that are too stupid use it as a crutch to explain the unexplainable.

News flash, man, has done everything and more than what is told in the bible. All of the ignorant myths as to why things happen have already been explained by science and proven with physical evidence. I also am content with some things will never be explained in our lifetime. But I don't need a make-believe character to fill in that void to make me feel better about the things that I don't understand or ignorance.

Nothing in the bible impresses me.

You are controlled. Do as you are told or live forever in a fire pit. Yeah, go on, keep being sheep and send your deity some money on Sunday too while you're at it. Gas prices are high and your child molesting homosexual priest needs to fill his Cadillac's gas tank.

Religion holds back the intelligent people from advancing.

Obviously you don't know what Christianity is, since you seem to hold a TV/fundamentalist athiest view of it (do as you are told or live forever in the fire pit has nothing to do with what most if not all Christians believe). I suggest you learn a bit more than Sam Harris' view of Christianity.

Actually, religion is what made the west more advanced than the rest of the world. It was religion that brought forth the notion of a rational universe governed by laws, as well as the scientific method. It was religion taht brought about the notion that universal literacy was a good. It was religion that brought us the orimting press, and subsequently, an educated society.

True enough, many bad things can be laid at religion's doorstep -- but almost every good thing in our lives today came from religion as well.

With thousands of Chrisitian denominations worldwide which one is true Christianity? The 700 Club?

Originally posted by Fishermage 

Obviously you don't know what Christianity is, since you seem to hold a TV/fundamentalist athiest view of it (do as you are told or live forever in the fire pit has nothing to do with what most if not all Christians believe). I suggest you learn a bit more than Sam Harris' view of Christianity.

Actually, religion is what made the west more advanced than the rest of the world. It was religion that brought forth the notion of a rational universe governed by laws, as well as the scientific method. It was religion taht brought about the notion that universal literacy was a good. It was religion that brought us the orimting press, and subsequently, an educated society.

True enough, many bad things can be laid at religion's doorstep -- but almost every good thing in our lives today came from religion as well.

Oddly, you may want to look these people up.  Greeks?  Lived in Greece?  Directly responsible for the rational view of the world that we have now?  Derived interesting things like a round earth long before the Christians decided it was flat?

Christianity managed to delay that from showing up for a while, and then kill a few prominent scientists because it disagreed with church doctorine.