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  Stradden

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OP  10/06/08 9:09:39 AM#1

MMORPG.com Age of Conan Correspondent Mike DeHart writes this introductory overview of the Ranger class in Funcom's Age of Conan.

The Ranger class in AoC is a pure archer akin to the scout or ranger classes in Dark Age of Camelot. That means no pets and very few nature themed spells. Rangers rely on stealth and distance to deal damage with bows and crossbows. They are also adept with a sword and shield, for close combat fights. The ranger is a ranged DPS class with medium armor, stealth, and considerable crowd control; these abilities can make the ranger formidable in both PvP and PvE.

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  Terranah

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10/06/08 9:50:47 AM#2

An educational class review, but I would be more interested in seeing a performance review across different hardware specs.  There were many of these during launch, but hopefully they have done some optimizing?

 

In general most of the classes I played were fun, but post tortage my fps kept dropping, with the worst in cities being 5 fps.  In the wild I was getting 10 to 20 if I am recalling correctly.

 

My launch spec:

3.6 ghz gpu

3 gb ram

10k rpm raptor drive

ati 1950 pro 256 mb

Since launch I have upgraded to:

ati 4850 512 mb

 

  Loke666

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10/06/08 10:00:06 AM#3
Originally posted by Terranah

An educational class review, but I would be more interested in seeing a performance review across different hardware specs.  There were many of these during launch, but hopefully they have done some optimizing?

 

In general most of the classes I played were fun, but post tortage my fps kept dropping, with the worst in cities being 5 fps.  In the wild I was getting 10 to 20 if I am recalling correctly.

 

My launch spec:

3.6 ghz gpu

3 gb ram

10k rpm raptor drive

ati 1950 pro 256 mb

Since launch I have upgraded to:

ati 4850 512 mb

 

 

Yep, I change my GFX card last week but I went up between 5-20 FPS from launch to last week with the same hardware. The game floats a lot better now.

But your old GFX card was not that great, AoCs textures really need a 512 megs memory. I don't see any problems for you to run the game at medium now.

And Ranger is my favorite class BTW, not so easy to play as many other classes but really fun and dangerous in PvP :D

  User Deleted
10/06/08 10:08:20 AM#4
Originally posted by Terranah

An educational class review, but I would be more interested in seeing a performance review across different hardware specs.  There were many of these during launch, but hopefully they have done some optimizing?

 

In general most of the classes I played were fun, but post tortage my fps kept dropping, with the worst in cities being 5 fps.  In the wild I was getting 10 to 20 if I am recalling correctly.

 

My launch spec:

3.6 ghz gpu

3 gb ram

10k rpm raptor drive

ati 1950 pro 256 mb

Since launch I have upgraded to:

ati 4850 512 mb

 

I have the 4870 model, and play with everything on with 40-60 fps, and spiking to the 30s for cities...normal actually.

Turn off shadows (which 90% of people do anyways) and the game will run awesome

There is no doubt the game requires a hefty system. But, after seeing how it performs, I cannot downgrade to games like Vanguard, WAR or LOTRO anymore...as AoC just looks and plays gorgeous.

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  WolfClaws

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10/06/08 10:12:21 AM#5

How does any of these replies refer to the OP?

 

For the OP.  Listing your max level would be good as it will build more credibility to your "article".

Also, the time frame you are talking about.  The game has underwent a number of changes the last few months, especially with Rangers.

Your comment on elevation... You are certain this is for AoC?  I know DAOC it was a good thing, but I have not noticed a change in range with elevation, neither have I noticed a decrease in damage using my bow in melee...

 

You may need to double check things. 

  corpsman77

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10/06/08 11:11:56 AM#6

So the OP is one of the 5 people who still play this game?

 

  lmzz

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10/06/08 4:18:21 PM#7

There is no increase in range with elevation. It´s really not a great dps:er for single targets compared to OTHER CLASSES, my HoX out-dps my ranger with ease, he did so even when he was ten levels lower than my capped ranger.

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  WolfClaws

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10/06/08 5:23:57 PM#8

This is the 3rd "correspondant" crap you guys have published... I wish ya'll would double check what is written before publishing.

  User Deleted
10/06/08 5:26:29 PM#9

Age of Conan: Ranger Class Overview.   <--------- See that word?

 

Good.

Great article BTW.

  WolfClaws

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10/06/08 5:36:24 PM#10

Overview means some fact thrown in, not the fiction he stated.

  AmazingAvery

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10/06/08 7:42:18 PM#11
Originally posted by Terranah

An educational class review, but I would be more interested in seeing a performance review across different hardware specs.  There were many of these during launch, but hopefully they have done some optimizing?

 

In general most of the classes I played were fun, but post tortage my fps kept dropping, with the worst in cities being 5 fps.  In the wild I was getting 10 to 20 if I am recalling correctly.

 

My launch spec:

3.6 ghz gpu

3 gb ram

10k rpm raptor drive

ati 1950 pro 256 mb

Since launch I have upgraded to:

ati 4850 512 mb

 


 

Hey Terranah.

There are a couple of performance reviews here: www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/8077-age-conan-hardware-performance-review.html

However, a newer one :  Age of Conan Video Optimization Guide  is a bit better I think :)


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  abal

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10/07/08 3:41:06 AM#12
Originall

And Ranger is my favorite class BTW, not so easy to play as many other classes but really fun and dangerous in PvP :D

 

I'm sure you mean overpowered.

  User Deleted
10/07/08 5:13:33 AM#13
Originally posted by abal
Originall

And Ranger is my favorite class BTW, not so easy to play as many other classes but really fun and dangerous in PvP :D

 

I'm sure you mean overpowered.


 

Yes, Ranger is overpowered up to about level 40, but its all downhill from there! 

At level 80, since the gem nerf you have to be a pretty damn good player to  win with a Ranger against most other classes in a 1 v 1 situation.  Ranger DPS is pretty poor at higher levels and the amount of misses just gets worse and worse the higher level you get. 

The only guaranteed wins at level 80 are Demo and Necro.  ToS's, PoM's BS's, Barbs, and all the soldier classes are really tough fights with those classes actually having the advantage.  Assassins are funny, if you get the jump on them they are toast, if they get the jump on you then you are probably toast.

Sure Rangers are very useful in Group PvP at endgame, but 1 on 1, not so much.  They may rule Tortage Underhalls and White Sands Isle, but believe me they don't rule Keshatta.

 

 

  WolfClaws

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10/07/08 6:19:40 AM#14

Again, this "overview" is false.

Range is not extended because of elevation.
Stealth is not worse cause of Medium Armor (just not as many bonuses from armor like cloth and light)
Difference between Bow and Xbow is range and damage.
There is not negative to hit or damage using the bow at point blank range.  You do not HAVE to use your melee weapons.

I PM'd (I think I did it right) Stradden about this and other guides.  Hopefully this will be removed as it is ... well wrong... on so many levels.

  Samhael

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10/07/08 8:48:23 AM#15
Originally posted by WolfClaws

Again, this "overview" is false.

Range is not extended because of elevation.
Stealth is not worse cause of Medium Armor (just not as many bonuses from armor like cloth and light)
Difference between Bow and Xbow is range and damage.
There is not negative to hit or damage using the bow at point blank range.  You do not HAVE to use your melee weapons.

I PM'd (I think I did it right) Stradden about this and other guides.  Hopefully this will be removed as it is ... well wrong... on so many levels.

 

Your tone seems a bit hostile but the guts of what you're saying matches up a lot more with my ranger play experiences.  I *do* think the correspondent program is a great concept but honestly don't see it working well for MMORPG.com.  Right now, even the main articles don't consistently get proper review before posting so I'm not sure why the correspondent articles would fare better.

  Loke666

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10/07/08 8:54:25 AM#16
Originally posted by WolfClaws

Again, this "overview" is false.

Range is not extended because of elevation.
Stealth is not worse cause of Medium Armor (just not as many bonuses from armor like cloth and light)
Difference between Bow and Xbow is range and damage.
There is not negative to hit or damage using the bow at point blank range.  You do not HAVE to use your melee weapons.

I PM'd (I think I did it right) Stradden about this and other guides.  Hopefully this will be removed as it is ... well wrong... on so many levels.

The armour do make a difference but not a really big one. Experimented a bit with it and it is easier to stealth in cloth armour, but it ain't so big difference that it is worth the lesser protection of cloth.

  WolfClaws

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10/07/08 12:01:12 PM#17

There is no difference in stealthing in full plate and cloth. The difference is how many points you have spec'd. 

As I said, there are more plus stealth points for cloth and light armor for the barbarian and the assassin.  Lord knows my demo has gotten several of those peices as quest rewards instead of casters stuff.

You cannot spot a ranger anymore than you can spot any other rogue if they are spec'd right.

Hell, stealth is borked for pvp anyways.  Waiting on that fix heh.

I like the idea behind a Correspondent writer, and them being independant is awesome, but recently the stuff that has been published hasn't been checked by the MMORPG staff, either that or the staff isn't familiar with what is being submitted.  Going on assumption.

That is bad for business.

If people keep seeing the inaccuracies of these Correspondants, less people may visit the site.  That means loss of potential revenue.

 

 

  Appen

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10/08/08 1:22:15 PM#18

Armor Info:
http://www.aocsale.com/aoc-news/Age-of-Conan-Ranger-Class-Guide-574.html

Rangers do face one disadvantage, in that the armor that they wear heavier armor than any other class in the Rogue category, meaning that when it comes to sneaking around they are not quite as capable as other, similar classes. Still, rangers are versatile characters with flexible attacking capabilities.

http://forums.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?t=14135

Your hide ability works depending upon a few factors. Time of day. (Obviously it is easier to hide at night then in daylight). Secondly the type of armor that your character is currently wearing.(You make less "noise" in cloth armor then you do in medium). Thirdly the amount of points you have in Hiding and the level of the enemies you are trying to avoid.(I keep my hiding skill maxed out)

I really meant that a ranger's stealth isn't as good when compared to other classes becasue of this armor bonus. I probably should have worded it differently, but hindsight is always 20/20. The difference might be negligable at endgame but again that is why this is an overview aimed at newer players.

Elevation:
http://conanvault.ign.com/wiki/index.php/Ranger_Guide

Solo Tips

Start combat from the farthest distance possible. Attack from high ground when possible (yes, AoC actually takes elevation into account!)

 

Melee penalty:
Ten Ton Hammer: Is there any penalty for firing a ranged weapon at a close proximity? For instance, if a Ranger continues using a bow even when a monster is eating his face, will he still get full damage on his arrow attacks? Conversely, is there any penalty for being at an extremely long distance other than not doing damage to the creature? Does the damage change for the distance you are away?

Evan: Although you will be able to use ranged weapons up close, the Ranger will suffer some penalties in melee range. However, he will have a handful of melee combos and crowd control methods to deal with these limitations

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Cons (Weaknesses)

At times easily overwhelmed when taking on multiple enemies in close quarters. Heavier armor means stealth skills are not as strong as they could be. Ranged weapons suffer penalties when used at melee range. Rangers don't really differentiate themselves from other rogue classes until the 30s, where they really come into their own.

 

You also have to remember that this guide was written well over a month ago. Before the PvP patch, before Craig took over, etc. This game is changing drastically as Funcom tries to bring back a lot of its subscribers, which may date some of the info but I really can't do anything about that.

 

-Mike DeHart

  WolfClaws

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10/09/08 7:06:28 AM#19

Mike, Did you play the game or just compile old guides together?
 

Look, I am not trying to disrespect you here, but the "guide" written in May is nice.  But it was also going off of a LOT of assumptions too.  A LOT.

Seriously, armor does not matter with stealth.  Like I said, cloth and light armors have +stealth on them where Medium armors on the whole do not.  There are a couple of exceptions though.

Bow and xbow speed doesn't matter.  They aren't a factor.  The Wiki is right that the Xbow does hit harder, have shorter range and has some AoE stuff.  But the Bow has an AoE move too.  Just didn't hit as hard, and has more range.

Elevation does NOT play a factor in range for any class.  Because the mechanic isn't there.  It measures X to Y... Z being elevation isn't included in the equation.  It just seems further cause you are on a mountain top... and that player will have to run up the top and bypass invisible walls to get to you, but that isn't increased range.

The game mechanics for that stuff has not changed since  Beta, the PvP Weekend, Open Beta, Early Access or Live.

Oh, and you never have to shift to your melee weapons... ever.  Because range is not an issue.  The instruction book has a tip that states you should switch to melee if the enemy gets close cause range is for range and all that.  It is true in Vanguard (well bugged at the moment) and WAR, but not here.  Don't believe me?  Try it yourself.

 

And again, it doesn't matter how much stealth you have.. daytime for NPCs you will always be uncovered.

PvP you might get spotted by a player if they search for you... might.  But mostly not.

 

 

And here is a question for you personally... I know that the info you obtained is... old.  But why use it?  You could have had this as background info, and played the class yourself, test things out.  You said you talked to high level rangers... they tell you that they switch to melee cause their ranged damage sucked at close range?  I bet not.

Combat mechanics for Ranger attacks have not changed... at all.  Their damage was reduced tons since beta...  except up to level 20ish, and the combo range for melee increased.. but it is all the same.

Why didn't you check your facts?

  Appen

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10/09/08 9:21:40 AM#20

  Originally posted by WolfClaws

Mike, Did you play the game or just compile old guides together?

Actually I just used these as proof and it took me a while to find them all. Simple googling.


Look, I am not trying to disrespect you here, but the "guide" written in May is nice. But it was also going off of a LOT of assumptions too. A LOT.

Seriously, armor does not matter with stealth. Like I said, cloth and light armors have +stealth on them where Medium armors on the whole do not. There are a couple of exceptions though.

I'm not talking about +stealth. the mechanic IS there you just don't notice it at 80. I mean i don't know what else to say I've shown you examples to prove my point unless you have similar examples you're pretty much just giving me your word.

 

Bow and xbow speed doesn't matter. They aren't a factor. The Wiki is right that the Xbow does hit harder, have shorter range and has some AoE stuff. But the Bow has an AoE move too. Just didn't hit as hard, and has more range.

http://forums.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?p=854559

I don't know where you're getting this either because I've found speed to be a huge factor early on. Again look through the eyes of a 1-30 ranger not your 80 ranger with an epic xbow.

 

Elevation does NOT play a factor in range for any class. Because the mechanic isn't there. It measures X to Y... Z being elevation isn't included in the equation. It just seems further cause you are on a mountain top... and that player will have to run up the top and bypass invisible walls to get to you, but that isn't increased range.

First i never said it increases range, secondly this is a mechanic that was definitely in during beta so if your next statement is true it should still be in.

 

The game mechanics for that stuff has not changed since Beta, the PvP Weekend, Open Beta, Early Access or Live.

Oh, and you never have to shift to your melee weapons... ever. Because range is not an issue. The instruction book has a tip that states you should switch to melee if the enemy gets close cause range is for range and all that. It is true in Vanguard (well bugged at the moment) and WAR, but not here. Don't believe me? Try it yourself.

When did I ever say you HAD to switch to melee? I said your ranged damage suffers a penalty at melee range. Which is true.

 

And again, it doesn't matter how much stealth you have.. daytime for NPCs you will always be uncovered.

PvP you might get spotted by a player if they search for you... might. But mostly not.

This just proves my point that more than just hiding skill is factored into determining your stealth.

 

And here is a question for you personally... I know that the info you obtained is... old. But why use it? You could have had this as background info, and played the class yourself, test things out. You said you talked to high level rangers... they tell you that they switch to melee cause their ranged damage sucked at close range? I bet not.

I did. I have a 40 level ranger. He's not amazing but again thats why this guide is a newbie guide. At 1-30 level range melee damage is good and I kill as fast with sword and shield as my bow so i recommended using it. The gap between melee/range widens as you level.

 

Why didn't you check your facts?

I did, and I've back mine up with sources. You should do the same.

 

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