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10/04/08 8:09:50 PM#61
i agree with Khaelsun.. If there is something that i would like to taste is an mmorpg with many new elements isnide and not something that reminds me wow which im playing 3.5 y now ,enjoyed it kinda bored it after all this time |
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10/04/08 8:12:50 PM#62
Originally posted by Andromedus1
i dont know about date or outdaet mate but if the DF's gameplay core is 70% as it seems to be it will kill all other mmo's ,simple as that gameplay= everything . Graficks are for imprssions only and for kids that value graficks more than gameplay
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10/04/08 9:22:06 PM#63
Originally posted by Cynthe
Well the main mistake you have made is that you say "Look at the games from small companies that have plummeted to the abyss lately, all have said to be revolutionary to have these cool new gamplay additions and innovations...". Have you looked at Darkfalls features page or Q&A? The game offers tons more than any other game i have seen in development or out for that matter and the game has been in development for a long long time so lets hope it is polished and feature complete at release. The features certainly are very appealing to me and obviously to alot of other people aswell. |
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10/04/08 11:11:58 PM#64
All three are different games. I will admit that WAR's campaigns are pretty innovative. Aion implements a unique combat system that i have yet to try, but otherwise it looks a lot like WoW. I detest non-linear games with preset factions. Darkfall's free for all sandbox style is a rarity nowadays. I want to join a clan. I want to be able to build, siege and defend cities. I dont' want to be led like a sheep into preset maps and fight the same opposition faction over and over again. I want to be able to kill/steal from some guy who pisses me off.
City building is seriously becoming a "unique" feature nowadays, when only a few years ago before WoW came out, it was the norm. Guild warfare was the "in" thing, so much that Guild Wars was released with moderate success. |
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Pezhead
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Joined: 9/03/08
If it ain''t got killing, it ain''t a real video game. |
11/30/08 4:03:03 AM#65
Can't resist necroing this.... Ok, first off, my vote DOES go to Aion, and not because i think DF or WAR are the bad(as i haven't played either) but because there are things about Aion-yes things-that after watching for a couple years, have caught my attention. That said, WAR may or may not be a good or bad game, but it certainly has a reputation of a slightly modded WoW clone. DF is now in closed beta(open beta not open to the public is still closed beta) which may mean anything-Perfect World was in beta for like 2 years. There have been solid trailers for DF's gameplay, however, I am skeptical due to the fact I haven't seen any interviews or chats with either the producer's or Devs. This could mean anything, but for now, it tells me that the dev's aren't interested in letting devout fans, know that it is beyond alpha, and what the game truly is. The combat style seems to be pretty cool, however, this also seems to be a trend, with more action oriented game system, and less skill mashing, to name a few, Continent of the Ninth, Blade and Soul, Monster Hunter(courtesy of Endrance), Dynasty Warriors online. The sandbox play in DF is indeed a unique touch, but that combined with the "FPS" style gameplay would require 75-0 MS to have any fair sort of gameplay. Now obviousely, this means a dumbing down of the graphics, but I will point out that in an FPS, graphics and sound do make a difference to skilled players-some players can judge an enemies location simply by sound, shadows are important as well-of course and don't forget camouflage. All very important. Keep in mind that this is more or less a hack and slash and may or may not have the complexity of a modern fighting game like Virtual Fighter. So I have my fair share of skeptiscisms about DF, it's true. A game that has been in development of 6+ years without SOLID information to show progression (interviews, player reviews, ingame UI screenshots etc.) could mean anything. I am worried that Aion may not recieve widespread popularity in NA/EU and will thus shrink the community, and that there will not be proper western support. WAR doesn't seem to bring enough to the table to make me want to play it. Are graphics important to me? I wouldn't be getting a second GFX card to crossfire it with my current radeon3870 if i felt otherwise. If I felt graphics weren't important I'd play runescape. If I felt graphics weren't important, then I would probably never try a new game. But if you read my profile, I am an avid RTS gamer and game jumper, with a small mix of RPG in there. So I will continue to play new games, I'll play darkfall if there's a free trial, I'll play WAR, if there's a free trial. If either are good, I will stick with them. But by giving all games a chance, I enrich my own experience and allow me to make more educated decisions and statements about current and future games. BTW, I do have a part time job, attend college, spend 3-4 days a week hanging out with friends and manage my fish tank and dogs(
on a final note, putting this poll on a darkfall forum obviousley swings the favor, if you were to put it on the WAR forums, or Aion forums, you'd see different outcomes. That said, I'm curious to know how many darkfall fans are following Aion and how many Aion fans are following DF, or how many WAR fans are following both. It's almost 2010, and I am just not wiling to tolerate clunky graphics while being told that "gameplay is more important than graphics". That excuse won't wash with me any more. I expect my games to have both good graphics and good gameplay. |
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DarthRaiden
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Joined: 11/20/05
i make art, Forum Terrorist |
11/30/08 5:37:22 AM#66
aion and war don't play same league with DarkFall on paper, they not complete games in design cause they not sandbox.. DarkFall is designed for to be complete MMO game, comparable with UO, PRE-CU SWG and such ..not with the low level poor design games -----MY-TERMS-OF-USE-------------------------------------------------- "There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE) |
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DarthRaiden
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i make art, Forum Terrorist |
11/30/08 5:56:56 AM#67
Originally posted by enSL Sorry to burst your bubble but based on the last video of people actually playing this game it looks and plays like a totally low level, poorly designed piece of shit. The only thing not on the same level or even in the same Universe as games like War and Aion is Darkfall. Time to wake up and put this overhyped pile of shit to rest. was not my point. Learn 2 read and comprehend -----MY-TERMS-OF-USE-------------------------------------------------- "There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE) |
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11/30/08 8:59:33 AM#68
Originally posted by enSL Sorry to burst your bubble but based on the last video of people actually playing this game it looks and plays like a totally low level, poorly designed piece of shit. The only thing not on the same level or even in the same Universe as games like War and Aion is Darkfall. Time to wake up and put this overhyped pile of shit to rest.
Sorry to burst your bubble but were not so threatend our game won't do good that were on other game forums constantly trashing them constantly like ..... some people seem to be lol. You know who I am reffering to right enSL? lol. |
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Pezhead
Novice Member
Joined: 9/03/08
If it ain''t got killing, it ain''t a real video game. |
11/30/08 2:01:01 PM#69
Originally posted by DarthRaiden Sandbox doesn't mean it's a better game. While it's definately not usual for an MMO, it's not as if it's totally unique, The next-gen revolutionary system(I think) is a fully dynamic world, one that grows and evolves alongside players, not just react to them. As long as the world does not evolve, the game will limited by it's sandbox play. And by that I mean, that you might construct a castle, but because of design limitations, you will never be able to create a castle with complete originality, you will always use the same catapults, the same swords. It won't "Evolve" into the age of gunpowder. Does this make Darkfall an incomplete game? I wouldn't say so, neither is it completely revolutionary. The longer it takes to release, the farther it will fall behind the times, and so a release by the end of December would be great of course. As to comparing Aion and WAR to Darkfall, it's true, they are completely different games. Sandox play and "FPS" style asside, I really like the music in Aion, and that's one of the things that hooked me, but hey, even though I listen to power metal and Electronic, I have a classical background which may be why I can appreciate it. And yes, graphics are important to me. Flashy animations and explosive attacks? Well... I've always been a fan of Soul Calibur and if you like that, than you shouldn't mind the animations in Aion. It's almost 2010, and I am just not wiling to tolerate clunky graphics while being told that "gameplay is more important than graphics". That excuse won't wash with me any more. I expect my games to have both good graphics and good gameplay. |
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11/30/08 2:27:23 PM#70
Originally posted by achellis
Darkfall is sandbox plus hardcore pvp full loot. Both others are themepark sissy games. Topic and poll failed:) |
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11/30/08 2:31:38 PM#71
Originally posted by Andromedus1 Man that WAR screen looks ugly and oh so 100% wow And second screen darkfall is old one new screens look even better:) |
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11/30/08 2:35:26 PM#72
Originally posted by GrayGhost79
Aion community still trolling the forums of a game they claim to have no intrest in and attempting to insult another community? lol And you wont see Darkfall fans go over to there forums why is that |
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Pezhead
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Joined: 9/03/08
If it ain''t got killing, it ain''t a real video game. |
11/30/08 2:52:29 PM#73
Originally posted by Evasia
"Hardcore" pvp? have you ever played EVE online? THAT is hardcore PvP and while it's not complete sandbox play, it has the LARGEST world of any game ever created, EVE uses a realistically sized galaxy, and don't forget that its all on one server. It does help that pretty much all actions are done in solar systems, but even a solar system, realistically scaled is MASSIVE. As to PvP, it's as you would imagine a space battle, the larger battlecruisers making the backbone of the fleet with frigates and destroyers providing quick support. Oh yeah, there's no respawn, sorry. If you're ship gets blown up, then that's too bad, your 1 billion isk b-cruiser is gone now, guess you're going to have to save up for another. You do get ejected in an escape pod, but if that gets blown up, you better have a clone ready.... Does this make Darkfall a sissy game? Not necessarily. Does skill mashing have no skill compared to reactive controls? Not necessarily, that's like comparing Starcraft to Chess. Besides, if your looking for an "fps" fantasy experience, why not play the "Age of Chivalry" Halflife 2 mod? And as far as Aion community over here, you may not have spent any time in the Aion forums, but I have, and plenty of Darkfall fans have visited there. It's almost 2010, and I am just not wiling to tolerate clunky graphics while being told that "gameplay is more important than graphics". That excuse won't wash with me any more. I expect my games to have both good graphics and good gameplay. |
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11/30/08 7:09:58 PM#74
I would have to say DF because... Aion- seems like another asian grind game, War- although fun sometimes gets boring after a while. I would like to through one up there and say SWTOR |
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11/30/08 7:11:41 PM#75
just the fact that aion was brought into conversation.... |
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11/30/08 7:28:24 PM#76
Aion is vaporware |
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11/30/08 7:43:17 PM#77
The kind of people who going to play Aion are the types of people who you wouldn't want your children speaking to. People with japanese anime fetishes, wierdos who have romantic relationships with other wierdos over the internet, furries and other such emotionally retarded deviants. Better for everyone that they all stay in one game imo. |
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11/30/08 9:22:28 PM#78
Originally posted by KhaelSan yeah free mmos and failures probably jaded what can be accomplished in an mmo. Some people find flyff fun, well I pray to god future mmos don't appeal to you... Aion has a cool concept as far as those go, but in essence its just another asian mmo, no where even close to what DF is promising, and comparing WAR to DF is unfair since WAR is already out.
This poll should have Spellborn, DF, MO, GW2, Star Wars, and Legos with the question "which future mmo will be the best?" I THINK darkfall would win this, not 100%, but anyway it would be more interesting than finding out how many anime free mmo blinded idiots are among us (those who voted aion)
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Pezhead
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If it ain''t got killing, it ain''t a real video game. |
11/30/08 11:57:19 PM#79
Originally posted by Blodpls
Now this is just plain bad... "Not want you're children speaking to"? Half of the world's population is asian. Korea in and of itself-gaming wise is currently the most "Modern" country in the world. You may not be interested in gaming tournaments that draw hundreds of thousands of people to cheer their favorite players, but there, it is a way of life, and yes, video games have made their way into romantic relationships. Here, a couple might go see a movie, over in korea? You'd visit a "PC baang(club)" is it so wrong or different? And I have many friends who have online relationships, several of which have gotten married, personally I wouldn't call City of Heroes an "anime" game, and yet somehow they managed to form a romantic relationship through it. Japan has pretty much spawned a good 80% of all console games over the past 25 years, and the fact that Legend of Zelda is on the top ten best games ever created list on 90% of all game sites is a testament. I could easily list dozens of hit games originated in japan, and more than from the west. MGS, Devil may Cry, pretty much all fighting games(mortal combat?) Dynasty warriors. The list goes on. You may not like anime, and that's ok. It's an art style that is foreign and doesn't appeal to you, you probably never liked legend of zelda, or final fantasy. What is appealing about Aion's world is the dreamlike state that it exists in. What draws many players in is the immersion, can you feel like you're a part of the world, and if you can, is it a world that you would not mind being part of. Aion isn't designed for hardcore pvpers-its not sandbox, it doesnt have reactionary controls, there is no destructable cities. But it is friendly to those who enjoy character customization. The character creator is one of the best I have ever seen to date- you don't like anime? IT is well within your reach to create a non-anime looking character. Now, I visit the DF forums frequently because it looks like a very interesting, game, and if done correctly could prove to be the next step towards full dynamic world, I still can't stand posts like this. It's almost 2010, and I am just not wiling to tolerate clunky graphics while being told that "gameplay is more important than graphics". That excuse won't wash with me any more. I expect my games to have both good graphics and good gameplay. |
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